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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 10:05:12 GMT
Sorry but can't see mini buses ever working in central London covid or not. During this moment in time if you was to put mini buses on the 521 you would still manage to have spare capacity on the route *yes I have seen the 521 recently* however ordering mini buses for the 507 and 521 would be a rookie mistake because when people do return to the offices then mini buses would be too small. Exactly! I really should resist the ckick bait here when I see the doom and gloom suggesting things will never return to normal. Its a pandemic not the end of the world. I have gone to work for the day today and lots of others in the offices too so think come Autumn we will see more back in offices especially with schools going back.
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Post by rif153 on Aug 12, 2020 10:08:42 GMT
Here is some more Ideas of helping out other routes 220 extend to North Acton via 266 it a small extension and help out the 266 then that way the 460 can get extended to Willesden Junction help the loading one the 260 and the 266 295 extend to Park royal ASDA or Stonebridge Park via 18 this extension can help out the route as is busy most of the time and it common to leave people behind The unreliable nature of the 266 isn't great for those who want to use the route between North Acton and Willesden Junction having few alternatives though the cut back has gone some way to helping that. The 220 is pretty lengthy at the moment and does suffer from traffic along the route making it an nightmare to operate so I don't think extending it would be a good idea at all. The entire 18 is a very busy route but I do think the route needs help the most around zones 2, 3 and 4 and a new route may help to relieve the 18. Like the 220, the 295 is a long route and your extension would make it even more long. I've previously suggested some sort of route from Wembley-Shepherds Bush to kill two birds with one stone and relieve the busy 18 and 220 at the same time.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 12, 2020 10:10:44 GMT
Interesting to note that the 507 did use midi buses during the weekends/Bank Holidays in the early 90s, then done by GB¹ using the SR class Mercedes midibuses from the C2 allocation. I believe the odd MR class Metrorider midibus was also used from the C1 and C3 allocation. Bearing in mind this was many moons back the route was a lot lightly used during the weekends, this also being prior to the introduction of the present 211. The Mon-Sat Red Arrows were then base in the same premises but upstairs with their appropriate LS class. ¹ - the basement section of the old Victoria (GM) Garage I didn't beleive this, until I checked out Ian Armstrongs web page-And guess what? View AttachmentI used to drive that type on route ...but sadly never got the pleasure of the LS class.
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 12, 2020 10:22:05 GMT
Interesting to note that the 507 did use midi buses during the weekends/Bank Holidays in the early 90s, then done by GB¹ using the SR class Mercedes midibuses from the C2 allocation. I believe the odd MR class Metrorider midibus was also used from the C1 and C3 allocation. Bearing in mind this was many moons back the route was a lot lightly used during the weekends, this also being prior to the introduction of the present 211. The Mon-Sat Red Arrows were then base in the same premises but upstairs with their appropriate LS class. ¹ - the basement section of the old Victoria (GM) Garage I didn't beleive this, until I checked out Ian Armstrongs web page-And guess what? But that was over 20 years ago tho...
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 12, 2020 11:19:17 GMT
I didn't beleive this, until I checked out Ian Armstrongs web page-And guess what? But that was over 20 years ago tho... And your point is?
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 12, 2020 11:37:15 GMT
But that was over 20 years ago tho... And your point is? The amount of people living in london/commuting into london has grown and temporarily buying mercedes sprinters or whatever minibus you want is a waste of money the 507 I could see your point and I may be wrong but by the time its october at the least passenger loadings would be semi normal so there would be no point buying minibuses for the 521/507.
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Post by george on Aug 12, 2020 11:39:31 GMT
The amount of people living in london/commuting into london has grown and temporarily buying mercedes sprinters or whatever minibus you want is a waste of money the 507 I could see your point and I may be wrong but by the time its october at the least passenger loadings would be semi normal so there would be no point buying minibuses for the 521/507. to be fair I don't think he was suggestion that the route should get Mercedes sprinters only pointing out that the past the route ran with buses like that.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 12, 2020 11:40:42 GMT
Here is some more Ideas of helping out other routes 220 extend to North Acton via 266 it a small extension and help out the 266 then that way the 460 can get extended to Willesden Junction help the loading one the 260 and the 266 295 extend to Park royal ASDA or Stonebridge Park via 18 this extension can help out the route as is busy most of the time and it common to leave people behind Wouldn’t extend the already lengthy 220 anywhere : don’t know enough about the 295 to comment. The 295 is equally lengthy if not even more so.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 12, 2020 11:43:44 GMT
When the northern line is down the Lines at Archway are absoutley atrocious and the buses for the 390/134 are packed to the brim and there are still lines from the 134/41/210/390 bus stop all the way to the 263/17/43/271 (northbound) Bus stops so it would need a service at least when the northern line is down to Camden/warren Street or Tottenham Court Road especially since social distancing now exists And I agree with you on the 31 the PVR for the route is way too low and 10 minutes per bus is a Joke for the route I mostly take the route during Evenings (8:00 or later) so the bus isnt usually full but I sometimes take the route when I cba to take the C11 cause i missed the bus and the 134 is about to come and the 31 is packed to the brim. Withdraw the NHG to White City bit and use the savings to return the rest of the route to 8bph? The fact your continually ignoring local people's knowledge who have already said to you that the 31 has good loadings over this section is staggering.
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 12, 2020 11:52:18 GMT
The amount of people living in london/commuting into london has grown and temporarily buying mercedes sprinters or whatever minibus you want is a waste of money the 507 I could see your point and I may be wrong but by the time its october at the least passenger loadings would be semi normal so there would be no point buying minibuses for the 521/507. to be fair I don't think he was suggestion that the route should get Mercedes sprinters only pointing out that the past the route ran with buses like that. Thank you George, that was my point, the history of 507
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Post by northlondonbuses on Aug 12, 2020 12:31:23 GMT
to be fair I don't think he was suggestion that the route should get Mercedes sprinters only pointing out that the past the route ran with buses like that. Thank you George, that was my point, the history of 507 soz
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 12, 2020 14:09:20 GMT
Thank you George, that was my point, the history of 507 soz Np problem.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 12, 2020 15:42:28 GMT
The amount of people living in london/commuting into london has grown and temporarily buying mercedes sprinters or whatever minibus you want is a waste of money the 507 I could see your point and I may be wrong but by the time its october at the least passenger loadings would be semi normal so there would be no point buying minibuses for the 521/507. But bear in mind that the midibuses only appeared at weekends when the 507 is on a skeleton service anyway, their use during the peaks would not have been countenanced. Also they were spare from other routes due to lower PVRs at weekends. And don't forget that bus passenger numbers in the 1990s generally were lower than they were in recent times.
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Post by danorak on Aug 12, 2020 16:30:29 GMT
Wheelchair accessibility wasn't required either. An Optare City Pacer had 25 seats I think with a very high floor and no wheelchair bay. The Slide Ealing minibuses had ten with rear wheelchair access. Try getting away with that now at St Thomas Hospital.
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 12, 2020 16:33:57 GMT
Wheelchair accessibility wasn't required either. An Optare City Pacer had 25 seats I think with a very high floor and no wheelchair bay. The Slide Ealing minibuses had ten with rear wheelchair access. Try getting away with that now at St Thomas Hospital. Mellor Strata will get away with that
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