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Post by britishguy54 on Mar 16, 2020 7:12:29 GMT
Hello everyone, due to a similar thread being shut down for unknown reasons, I have decided to set up a new thread for the subject including new routes and previously withdrawn routes you would like to see return, thank you
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Post by LondonNorthern on Mar 16, 2020 16:38:46 GMT
I think the 10 would be a good route to bring back however instead rerouted via Wigmore Street rather than Oxford Street with the 23 running Marble Arch, North Row to Wembley Stadium, Rutherford Way. Far better than the c shape.
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Post by britishguy54 on Mar 16, 2020 21:01:18 GMT
Possible route changes for Beam Park (and areas near it) once it is complete:
150 - Extended from Becontree Heath to Dagenham East, giving Dagenham East a new local service. Will now double-run Yew Tree Avenue area w/ 103 and 364 later on.
Reason - Dagenham East is under-served at the moment, plus the 364 stand would be left unused (Some buses would still terminate at Becontree Heath w/ EL2).
174 - Re-routed to serve Beam Park Station, terminating on times when CEME is shut. Will continue to terminate at CEME.
Reason - Beam Park would need a bus connection, so a connection to Romford via Dagenham won’t do harm, plus still terminates at Dagenham CEME.
287 - More frequent buses on the route, 24hr Weekend service, plus a near connection to Barking and Rainham itself.
Reason - A simple change, but worth it, but the 24hr Weekend may take time to figure out, and Rainham main gets a new night route, linking with the 238/EL1/N15 for further connections.
348 - New route between Dagenham (ASDA (145 stand) or Scrattons Estate (former 953 stand)) and Hornchurch Town Centre (372 stand). Will serve Ballards Road, Rainham Road South, Rainham Road (A125 North), Wood Lane, Elm Park Station, Abbs Cross and Hornchurch Town Centre.
Reason - A connection between Dagenham and Hornchurch would be neat, showing as Romford seems to be a big Havering hub, and would get users.
364 - Extended from Dagenham East to Beam Park via Ballards Road, New Road and Marsh Way. Will terminate at most times (possible short journeys to Dagenham East). Will now double-run Yew Tree Avenue w/ 103 and extended 150.
Reason - I think it will get users, and a connection to Ilford.
365 - Will no longer serve New Road/Cherry Tree Lane. Instead will serve Orchard Village and terminate at Beam Park.
Reason - Beam Park gets another route to Romford, but through Elm Park and near Hornchurch, but very useful.
I know all of these may not come true, but those a plausible ideas, and I am welcome to feedback, so give opinions anytime.
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Post by COBO on Mar 24, 2020 3:44:20 GMT
Hello everyone, due to a similar thread being shut down for unknown reasons, I have decided to set up a new thread for the subject including new routes and previously withdrawn routes you would like to see return, thank you what happened to the withdrawn routes thread? Couldn't they have closed it rather than deleting it? |
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 24, 2020 9:46:11 GMT
Hello everyone, due to a similar thread being shut down for unknown reasons, I have decided to set up a new thread for the subject including new routes and previously withdrawn routes you would like to see return, thank you what happened to the withdrawn routes thread? Couldn't they have closed it rather than deleting it? I don't think they deleted it, as along with other threads such as the Stagecoach & Arriva threads I think they got corrupted |
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Post by britishguy54 on Mar 24, 2020 20:32:59 GMT
Fantasy changes to:
Barking & Dagenham/ Havering/Newham/Redbridge
101: Cut between Beckton and Gallions Reach Shopping Park, replaced by new version of route 104
104: TfL goes ahead with part of the Stratford - Beckton route, with extension to Gallions Reach Shopping Park with former 101
115: Re-routed to Barking Station via routes 5, 238 and N15
145: Upgraded to full 24hr Daily service
150: Extended to Dagenham East via 103 at Becontree Heath.
165: Re-routed to no longer serve Romford, The Brewery. Instead will terminate at Chadwell Heath, Wangey Road.
173: Re-routed between Beckton and North Circular Road, now goes via Gallions Reach DLR & Shopping Park, replaced by new route 475
175: Re-routed to no longer serve New Road. Instead will terminate at Dagenham ASDA via 145. New Road section replaced by 475 and short journey 174/287
238: Extended to Harts Lane Estate with 368. No longer terminates at Barking Station.
247: Extended to Romford, Queen’s Hospital or Roneo Corner (loops around the A124/A125 junction).
248: Extended to Romford, The Brewery via 165.
287: Gains 24hr Weekend service. No longer serves Ripple Road/A13, instead serves Goresbrook Road and new slip road between Goresbrook Road and Ripple Road. Upgraded frequency.
304: TfL goes ahead with new route between Manor Park and Custom House, replacing part of the old 104
325: Re-routed to Barking Station via 5, 238, N15.
348: New route between Scrattons Farm and Hornchurch via New Road, Ballards Road, Rainham Road, Elm Park, Abbs Cross and Hornchurch
364: No longer terminates at Dagenham East. Extended to Beam Park via 145/174
365: No longer will serve New Road/Cherry Tree Lane. Instead will run in Orchard Village both directions and will terminate at Beam Park.
368: No longer terminates at Chadwell Heath, extended to Romford via 86
370: New weekend night service.
376: Extended from East Ham to East Beckton, creating an almost circular route. Replaces withdrawn 325. Upgraded frequency.
456: New route serving Hornchurch to Purfleet via Hornchurch Station, Suttons Lane, Airfield Way, South End Road, Rainham Road, Rainham Station, Wennington Road, Arterial Road, New Tank Hill Road and Purfleet Station
475: New route between Stratford and Dagenham New Road serving Plaistow, Prince Regent Lane, Newham Way (including new section left by 173), Alfreds Way, Ripple Road and New Road
497: Extended to Upminster via 347 at Harold Wood.
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396: Extended from Ilford, Roden Street to Barking Town Centre.
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EL1: Extended from Ilford Hill to Gants Hill via Cranbrook Road.
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N551: Extended to Barking Station via 366
Barking Town Centre: Bus stops upgraded and added. Roads upgraded.
I would like to be clear that this is all FANTASY so most likely none of these would come to reality. Thank you.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 24, 2020 22:07:33 GMT
Fantasy changes to: Barking & Dagenham/ Havering/Newham/Redbridge 101: Cut between Beckton and Gallions Reach Shopping Park, replaced by new version of route 104 104: TfL goes ahead with part of the Stratford - Beckton route, with extension to Gallions Reach Shopping Park with former 101 115: Re-routed to Barking Station via routes 5, 238 and N15 145: Upgraded to full 24hr Daily service 150: Extended to Dagenham East via 103 at Becontree Heath. 165: Re-routed to no longer serve Romford, The Brewery. Instead will terminate at Chadwell Heath, Wangey Road. 173: Re-routed between Beckton and North Circular Road, now goes via Gallions Reach DLR & Shopping Park, replaced by new route 475 175: Re-routed to no longer serve New Road. Instead will terminate at Dagenham ASDA via 145. New Road section replaced by 475 and short journey 174/287 238: Extended to Harts Lane Estate with 368. No longer terminates at Barking Station. 247: Extended to Romford, Queen’s Hospital or Roneo Corner (loops around the A124/A125 junction). 248: Extended to Romford, The Brewery via 165. 287: Gains 24hr Weekend service. No longer serves Ripple Road/A13, instead serves Goresbrook Road and new slip road between Goresbrook Road and Ripple Road. Upgraded frequency. 304: TfL goes ahead with new route between Manor Park and Custom House, replacing part of the old 104 325: Re-routed to Barking Station via 5, 238, N15. 348: New route between Scrattons Farm and Hornchurch via New Road, Ballards Road, Rainham Road, Elm Park, Abbs Cross and Hornchurch 364: No longer terminates at Dagenham East. Extended to Beam Park via 145/174 365: No longer will serve New Road/Cherry Tree Lane. Instead will run in Orchard Village both directions and will terminate at Beam Park. 368: No longer terminates at Chadwell Heath, extended to Romford via 86 370: New weekend night service. 376: Extended from East Ham to East Beckton, creating an almost circular route. Replaces withdrawn 325. Upgraded frequency. 456: New route serving Hornchurch to Purfleet via Hornchurch Station, Suttons Lane, Airfield Way, South End Road, Rainham Road, Rainham Station, Wennington Road, Arterial Road, New Tank Hill Road and Purfleet Station 475: New route between Stratford and Dagenham New Road serving Plaistow, Prince Regent Lane, Newham Way (including new section left by 173), Alfreds Way, Ripple Road and New Road 497: Extended to Upminster via 347 at Harold Wood. ===== 396: Extended from Ilford, Roden Street to Barking Town Centre. OR EL1: Extended from Ilford Hill to Gants Hill via Cranbrook Road. ===== N551: Extended to Barking Station via 366 Barking Town Centre: Bus stops upgraded and added. Roads upgraded. I would like to be clear that this is all FANTASY so most likely none of these would come to reality. Thank you. If these are fantasy changes, why aren't they in the fantasy thread? |
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 24, 2020 22:28:39 GMT
What exactly is the difference between the 2 threads? Both are technically fantasy as they won't be introduced by TfL
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Post by george on Mar 24, 2020 22:36:41 GMT
What exactly is the difference between the 2 threads? Both are technically fantasy as they won't be introduced by TfL Ah you say that but my 419 idea to extend it up to Roehampton became a reality 😁 |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 24, 2020 22:55:10 GMT
Fantasy changes to: Barking & Dagenham/ Havering/Newham/Redbridge 101: Cut between Beckton and Gallions Reach Shopping Park, replaced by new version of route 104 104: TfL goes ahead with part of the Stratford - Beckton route, with extension to Gallions Reach Shopping Park with former 101 115: Re-routed to Barking Station via routes 5, 238 and N15 145: Upgraded to full 24hr Daily service 150: Extended to Dagenham East via 103 at Becontree Heath. 165: Re-routed to no longer serve Romford, The Brewery. Instead will terminate at Chadwell Heath, Wangey Road. 173: Re-routed between Beckton and North Circular Road, now goes via Gallions Reach DLR & Shopping Park, replaced by new route 475 175: Re-routed to no longer serve New Road. Instead will terminate at Dagenham ASDA via 145. New Road section replaced by 475 and short journey 174/287 238: Extended to Harts Lane Estate with 368. No longer terminates at Barking Station. 247: Extended to Romford, Queen’s Hospital or Roneo Corner (loops around the A124/A125 junction). 248: Extended to Romford, The Brewery via 165. 287: Gains 24hr Weekend service. No longer serves Ripple Road/A13, instead serves Goresbrook Road and new slip road between Goresbrook Road and Ripple Road. Upgraded frequency. 304: TfL goes ahead with new route between Manor Park and Custom House, replacing part of the old 104 325: Re-routed to Barking Station via 5, 238, N15. 348: New route between Scrattons Farm and Hornchurch via New Road, Ballards Road, Rainham Road, Elm Park, Abbs Cross and Hornchurch 364: No longer terminates at Dagenham East. Extended to Beam Park via 145/174 365: No longer will serve New Road/Cherry Tree Lane. Instead will run in Orchard Village both directions and will terminate at Beam Park. 368: No longer terminates at Chadwell Heath, extended to Romford via 86 370: New weekend night service. 376: Extended from East Ham to East Beckton, creating an almost circular route. Replaces withdrawn 325. Upgraded frequency. 456: New route serving Hornchurch to Purfleet via Hornchurch Station, Suttons Lane, Airfield Way, South End Road, Rainham Road, Rainham Station, Wennington Road, Arterial Road, New Tank Hill Road and Purfleet Station 475: New route between Stratford and Dagenham New Road serving Plaistow, Prince Regent Lane, Newham Way (including new section left by 173), Alfreds Way, Ripple Road and New Road 497: Extended to Upminster via 347 at Harold Wood. ===== 396: Extended from Ilford, Roden Street to Barking Town Centre. OR EL1: Extended from Ilford Hill to Gants Hill via Cranbrook Road. ===== N551: Extended to Barking Station via 366 Barking Town Centre: Bus stops upgraded and added. Roads upgraded. I would like to be clear that this is all FANTASY so most likely none of these would come to reality. Thank you. I don't see the point in the 368 extension, nor the 325 going to Barking station to just mirror other buses like the 5, 238 then even worse you want to extend the 115 over this section to do the same thing. |
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Post by COBO on Mar 25, 2020 0:39:20 GMT
What exactly is the difference between the 2 threads? Both are technically fantasy as they won't be introduced by TfL Well a few things in boths threads have become reality and have been introduced by TfL like the 378, X140, the E8 extention to Hounslow and etc. So either coincedence or is TfL is watching us, |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 25, 2020 1:01:32 GMT
What exactly is the difference between the 2 threads? Both are technically fantasy as they won't be introduced by TfL The fantasy thread is for wholly unrealistic changes such as reintroducing the 109 in it's original form, that sort of thing where as the other thread is for more realistic changes. |
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Post by COBO on Mar 25, 2020 7:38:03 GMT
To me I don’t understand why the two threads need to be separated they both do the same thing they are both fantasy. What makes the content in one thread fantasy and the other not fantasy?
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Post by 15002 on Mar 25, 2020 9:09:16 GMT
To me I don’t understand why the two threads need to be separated they both do the same thing they are both fantasy. What makes the content in one thread fantasy and the other not fantasy? This thread is supposed to be a lot more logical, changes that TFL would actually make or realistic ideas that would be practical in today’s climate, whereas the fantasy one is an anything goes kind of thread whereby you can come up with anything you desire. |
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Post by greenboy on Mar 25, 2020 9:21:15 GMT
To me I don’t understand why the two threads need to be separated they both do the same thing they are both fantasy. What makes the content in one thread fantasy and the other not fantasy? I agree, far too many different threads on here. |
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