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Post by londonboy71 on Aug 15, 2020 16:41:19 GMT
Agree with everything, would much rather the 414 went with the 6 & 14 getting frequency increases I'm pretty convinced something like this is going to happen re routes 6, 14 & 414 anyway. Yet again someone wants to withdraw a long established route 6 Hackney Wick to Willesden Garage long before I was born 1946.leave old routes alone they are part of Londons History. Thank you
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Post by LK65EBO on Aug 15, 2020 16:54:42 GMT
Routes 237 & 267 - routeings swapped, with one route between White City and Fulwell, and another between Hammersmith and Hounslow Heath. With the extended 110 due to cover links between Twickenham and Chiswick/Hammersmith (in addition to the existing 267), this could provide a new direct link between Hammersmith and Hounslow (along the N9 corridor). No, I don't think this should happen. The H91 is direct enough and the fastest since it goes down Great West Road. The 237 is a very useful route which gets good loadings no matter what day.
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Post by abellion on Aug 15, 2020 17:05:10 GMT
I'm pretty convinced something like this is going to happen re routes 6, 14 & 414 anyway. Yet again someone wants to withdraw a long established route 6 Hackney Wick to Willesden Garage long before I was born 1946.leave old routes alone they are part of Londons History. Thank you I don't think London History is enough to justify not cutting excess services and saving money during a major financial struggle, especially with buses like the 414 which many people have been complaining about for years about a need for change
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Post by greenboy on Aug 15, 2020 17:06:29 GMT
I'm pretty convinced something like this is going to happen re routes 6, 14 & 414 anyway. Yet again someone wants to withdraw a long established route 6 Hackney Wick to Willesden Garage long before I was born 1946.leave old routes alone they are part of Londons History. Thank you We'll probably end up with something ridiculous like the 6 being withdrawn but the 414 being renumbered 6 like the 13/82 nonsense.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 15, 2020 17:11:16 GMT
Yet again someone wants to withdraw a long established route 6 Hackney Wick to Willesden Garage long before I was born 1946.leave old routes alone they are part of Londons History. Thank you I don't think London History is enough to justify not cutting excess services and saving money during a major financial struggle, especially with buses like the 414 which many people have been complaining about for years about a need for change They could always withdraw the 414, and reroute the 6 at Hyde Park Corner to operate to Putney Bridge (shades of the 13/82, anyone?) It did make me laugh though when people bemoaned the loss of "traditional" routes like the 10 - a route that had only existed since 1988.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 17:35:25 GMT
I don't think London History is enough to justify not cutting excess services and saving money during a major financial struggle, especially with buses like the 414 which many people have been complaining about for years about a need for change They could always withdraw the 414, and reroute the 6 at Hyde Park Corner to operate to Putney Bridge (shades of the 13/82, anyone?) It did make me laugh though when people bemoaned the loss of "traditional" routes like the 10 - a route that had only existed since 1988. Going way off topic here but the old pre 1998 10 is talked about about fondly by the older generation in east London. Seems it was a popular route!
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Post by greg on Aug 15, 2020 17:55:28 GMT
I don’t know if anyone else is local to the 73/476 but I find it highly useless that they both have their frequencies very similar? At Angel, there are two completely empty 476s running together while 3 73’s come flooding in all half filled in. It’s just a waste. I do think this because of the 73 frequency, and having such a high PVR. Anyways what Im trying to say is that I do have high hopes and think that the 476 should be on the list of cutting for TFL. What makes more sense is the 73 has been cut between Oxford Circus and Victoria, so for the 73 to run between Northumberland Park and Oxford Circus should work, and as the frequency/PVR is so high on the 73, the people of Stoke Newington could manage.
Now I know a lot of people will highly disagree with withdrawing the 476 so I think they could do this instead:
Swap the 56 and 476 routings west of Angel:
56 rerouted to King’s Cross from Angel via Pentonville Road 476 rerouted to Bart’s Hospital from Angel via Goswell Road and Barbican
I think the 56 would pick up a lot more if it went to King’s Cross and would support the 30 as far as Hackney Downs and would bring a lot more links to Clapton and Leyton which there is not any from North West instead of the 55 The 476 would go to Bart’s instead as I feel the 476 has a good frequency for it and could pick up some demand there to Tottenham which it doesn’t have.
Now I know people will say rerouting the 56 is the same as it follows the 30, but the 30 is not as frequent and 56 has a unique links from Kings Cross and Angel. You can use a lot of other routes along the way to Tottenham / Stoke Newington etc of the 476 from KC and Angel (73, 259, 341)
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2020 20:22:09 GMT
I don’t know if anyone else is local to the 73/476 but I find it highly useless that they both have their frequencies very similar? At Angel, there are two completely empty 476s running together while 3 73’s come flooding in all half filled in. It’s just a waste. I do think this because of the 73 frequency, and having such a high PVR. Anyways what Im trying to say is that I do have high hopes and think that the 476 should be on the list of cutting for TFL. What makes more sense is the 73 has been cut between Oxford Circus and Victoria, so for the 73 to run between Northumberland Park and Oxford Circus should work, and as the frequency/PVR is so high on the 73, the people of Stoke Newington could manage. Now I know a lot of people will highly disagree with withdrawing the 476 so I think they could do this instead: Swap the 56 and 476 routings west of Angel: 56 rerouted to King’s Cross from Angel via Pentonville Road 476 rerouted to Bart’s Hospital from Angel via Goswell Road and Barbican I think the 56 would pick up a lot more if it went to King’s Cross and would support the 30 as far as Hackney Downs and would bring a lot more links to Clapton and Leyton which there is not any from North West instead of the 55 The 476 would go to Bart’s instead as I feel the 476 has a good frequency for it and could pick up some demand there to Tottenham which it doesn’t have. Now I know people will say rerouting the 56 is the same as it follows the 30, but the 30 is not as frequent and 56 has a unique links from Kings Cross and Angel. You can use a lot of other routes along the way to Tottenham / Stoke Newington etc of the 476 from KC and Angel (73, 259, 341) Certainly sounds like a better idea than outright withdrawing the 476.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 15, 2020 20:33:05 GMT
I'm pretty convinced something like this is going to happen re routes 6, 14 & 414 anyway. Yet again someone wants to withdraw a long established route 6 Hackney Wick to Willesden Garage long before I was born 1946.leave old routes alone they are part of Londons History. Thank you I identified with someone suggesting route 414 withdrawn and routes 6 & 14 increased. I never suggested route 6 be withdrawn.
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Post by richard on Aug 16, 2020 1:46:25 GMT
I don’t know if anyone else is local to the 73/476 but I find it highly useless that they both have their frequencies very similar? At Angel, there are two completely empty 476s running together while 3 73’s come flooding in all half filled in. It’s just a waste. I do think this because of the 73 frequency, and having such a high PVR. Anyways what Im trying to say is that I do have high hopes and think that the 476 should be on the list of cutting for TFL. What makes more sense is the 73 has been cut between Oxford Circus and Victoria, so for the 73 to run between Northumberland Park and Oxford Circus should work, and as the frequency/PVR is so high on the 73, the people of Stoke Newington could manage. Now I know a lot of people will highly disagree with withdrawing the 476 so I think they could do this instead: Swap the 56 and 476 routings west of Angel: 56 rerouted to King’s Cross from Angel via Pentonville Road 476 rerouted to Bart’s Hospital from Angel via Goswell Road and Barbican I think the 56 would pick up a lot more if it went to King’s Cross and would support the 30 as far as Hackney Downs and would bring a lot more links to Clapton and Leyton which there is not any from North West instead of the 55 The 476 would go to Bart’s instead as I feel the 476 has a good frequency for it and could pick up some demand there to Tottenham which it doesn’t have. Now I know people will say rerouting the 56 is the same as it follows the 30, but the 30 is not as frequent and 56 has a unique links from Kings Cross and Angel. You can use a lot of other routes along the way to Tottenham / Stoke Newington etc of the 476 from KC and Angel (73, 259, 341) I think the 73 shouldn't have been melded with its lost a lot of passengers since the changes between the 73/390. Having used the 476 3 times I think it should remain as it is. Before anyone asks I disagreed with the cut back of the 25.
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Post by aaron1 on Aug 16, 2020 7:33:06 GMT
If TFL was to use suffixes route but as peak hours only
92A will run via the normal 92 to Wembley Central then via 18 to Stonebridge Park via 232 St Raphael's North this will help out the 18 in the busy times
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Post by LondonNorthern on Aug 16, 2020 13:16:28 GMT
I don’t know if anyone else is local to the 73/476 but I find it highly useless that they both have their frequencies very similar? At Angel, there are two completely empty 476s running together while 3 73’s come flooding in all half filled in. It’s just a waste. I do think this because of the 73 frequency, and having such a high PVR. Anyways what Im trying to say is that I do have high hopes and think that the 476 should be on the list of cutting for TFL. What makes more sense is the 73 has been cut between Oxford Circus and Victoria, so for the 73 to run between Northumberland Park and Oxford Circus should work, and as the frequency/PVR is so high on the 73, the people of Stoke Newington could manage. Now I know a lot of people will highly disagree with withdrawing the 476 so I think they could do this instead: Swap the 56 and 476 routings west of Angel: 56 rerouted to King’s Cross from Angel via Pentonville Road 476 rerouted to Bart’s Hospital from Angel via Goswell Road and Barbican I think the 56 would pick up a lot more if it went to King’s Cross and would support the 30 as far as Hackney Downs and would bring a lot more links to Clapton and Leyton which there is not any from North West instead of the 55 The 476 would go to Bart’s instead as I feel the 476 has a good frequency for it and could pick up some demand there to Tottenham which it doesn’t have. Now I know people will say rerouting the 56 is the same as it follows the 30, but the 30 is not as frequent and 56 has a unique links from Kings Cross and Angel. You can use a lot of other routes along the way to Tottenham / Stoke Newington etc of the 476 from KC and Angel (73, 259, 341) I think the 73 shouldn't have been melded with its lost a lot of passengers since the changes between the 73/390. Having used the 476 3 times I think it should remain as it is. Before anyone asks I disagreed with the cut back of the 25. The 73 could always be sent back to Victoria with the 390 cut off at Oxford Circus or it could in theory take over the 24s routing to Pimlico and maybe both routes get split like some suggest.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Aug 16, 2020 13:17:35 GMT
I think the 73 shouldn't have been melded with its lost a lot of passengers since the changes between the 73/390. Having used the 476 3 times I think it should remain as it is. Before anyone asks I disagreed with the cut back of the 25. The 73 could always be sent back to Victoria with the 390 cut off at Oxford Circus or it could in theory take over the 24s routing to Pimlico and maybe both routes get split like some suggest. By that I mean Archway - Pimlico (or maybe even Battersea) and Hampstead Heath - Oxford Circus
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Post by aaron1 on Aug 16, 2020 13:34:45 GMT
If TFL was to use suffixes route but as peak hours only 92A will run via the normal 92 to Wembley Central then via 18 to Stonebridge Park via 232 St Raphael's North this will help out the 18 in the busy times Other suffixes route but as peak hours only 31A run via the normal 31 to Harrow Road then via 18 College Park then via 220 to White City 316A Runs via the normal to Ladbroke Grove 316 then Via 228 Holland Park do it can be DD
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 16, 2020 13:52:52 GMT
If TFL was to use suffixes route but as peak hours only 92A will run via the normal 92 to Wembley Central then via 18 to Stonebridge Park via 232 St Raphael's North this will help out the 18 in the busy times Other suffixes route but as peak hours only 31A run via the normal 31 to Harrow Road then via 18 College Park then via 220 to White City 316A Runs via the normal to Ladbroke Grove 316 then Via 228 Holland Park do it can be DD No need for suffixes - 392, 431 and 416 are all vacant numbers that could be used.
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