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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 30, 2022 17:49:46 GMT
308 withdrawn between Stratford bus station and Clapton. To increase the reliability of the route 67 withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Dalston rerouted to Stratford via 253 and 308. To improve links from Stratford I like this idea, always thought Tottenham and Wood Green could benefit from a direct link to Stratford and Clapton. Would extending the D8 to Wanstead be better rather than leaving the 308 as a short route?
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Post by dla314 on Jun 30, 2022 18:30:00 GMT
So you make the 308 a tiny route to improve reliability but then extend the 67 which will surely then suffer the same reliability issues? Clapton and Homerton doesn't need links to Wanstead and Forest Gate. Stratford is a bigger destination so it requires better links to the west So then shouldn't 308 by this logic be curtailed from Wanstead instead of Clapton? You could then extend a route like 473 to Wanstead from Stratford to create stand space at Stratford bus station and to replace 308. I don't see why 67 of all routes should be diverted to Stratford and if that is not enough, you've already got Greater Anglia trains every 15 minutes to Tottenham Hale from Stratford.
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Post by 123ToLondon on Jun 30, 2022 18:35:27 GMT
308 withdrawn between Stratford bus station and Clapton. To increase the reliability of the route 67 withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Dalston rerouted to Stratford via 253 and 308. To improve links from Stratford Might aswell withdraw 308 and extend a route from Stratford to wanstead using the 308 route.
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Post by cl54 on Jun 30, 2022 18:37:05 GMT
Do you have any knowledge of the loadings on the frequent service on the 53 between Plumstead Station and Plumstead Common? They are very good throughout the day. Of course I have, heavy at peak times. Do you have any suggestions regarding the 422? Withdraw west of Woolwich. Could stand in Hare Street. Hopper fare for buses beyond. There are too many buses between Woolwich and Blackheath Royal Standard and between there and North Greenwich.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 30, 2022 19:02:42 GMT
308 withdrawn between Stratford bus station and Clapton. To increase the reliability of the route 67 withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Dalston rerouted to Stratford via 253 and 308. To improve links from Stratford Might aswell withdraw 308 and extend a route from Stratford to wanstead using the 308 route. And what route would you extend? I really don't like this modern idea of just lumping routes together.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 30, 2022 19:08:34 GMT
So you make the 308 a tiny route to improve reliability but then extend the 67 which will surely then suffer the same reliability issues? Clapton and Homerton doesn't need links to Wanstead and Forest Gate. Stratford is a bigger destination so it requires better links to the west How would cutting the 308 give better links to the west from Stratford? Are trying to suggest the 67 is giving links to the west?
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jun 30, 2022 19:14:33 GMT
Clapton and Homerton doesn't need links to Wanstead and Forest Gate. Stratford is a bigger destination so it requires better links to the west How would cutting the 308 give better links to the west from Stratford? Are trying to suggest the 67 is giving links to the west? Cutting it then extending the 67 over it. Giving better links Tottenham bound.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 30, 2022 19:23:29 GMT
How would cutting the 308 give better links to the west from Stratford? Are trying to suggest the 67 is giving links to the west? Cutting it then extending the 67 over it. Giving better links Tottenham bound. Well wouldn't call that west. Sorry but don't see any issue with the current 308 and just seems change for the sake of it.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 30, 2022 19:32:13 GMT
Clapton and Homerton doesn't need links to Wanstead and Forest Gate. Stratford is a bigger destination so it requires better links to the west So then shouldn't 308 by this logic be curtailed from Wanstead instead of Clapton? You could then extend a route like 473 to Wanstead from Stratford to create stand space at Stratford bus station and to replace 308. I don't see why 67 of all routes should be diverted to Stratford and if that is not enough, you've already got Greater Anglia trains every 15 minutes to Tottenham Hale from Stratford. 67 doesn't serve Tottenham Hale
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 30, 2022 19:44:27 GMT
Clapton and Homerton doesn't need links to Wanstead and Forest Gate. Stratford is a bigger destination so it requires better links to the west How would cutting the 308 give better links to the west from Stratford? Are trying to suggest the 67 is giving links to the west? The 67 would link more places to the west of Stratford to Stratford and also providing more links into Hackney borough from Wood Green and Tottenham
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Post by LX09FBJ on Jun 30, 2022 19:54:43 GMT
Simple change (although the 116 change probably wouldn't happen due to Surrey not funding it): 116 Hounslow to Staines (6bph DD) Extended from Ashford Hospital to Staines Bus Station. Increased from 5bph to 6bph. 237 White City to Hounslow (8bph DD) Withdrawn between Hounslow Bell Corner and Hounslow Heath. Another way could be to just DD the 203. I agree with your 237 proposal. 116 would be a more attractive prospect though as it’s a lot more direct than the 203 is. Maybe the 203 could be cut to 2bph and double decked to avoid overbussing the Staines-Hounslow corridor
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Post by rif153 on Jun 30, 2022 20:19:26 GMT
308 withdrawn between Stratford bus station and Clapton. To increase the reliability of the route 67 withdrawn between Stamford Hill and Dalston rerouted to Stratford via 253 and 308. To improve links from Stratford Might aswell withdraw 308 and extend a route from Stratford to wanstead using the 308 route. Even though I don't think there is much cross Stratford traffic on the 308 I think its important there are links across major town centres in London. All too often now we see such links being butchered.
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Post by dla314 on Jun 30, 2022 20:40:35 GMT
So then shouldn't 308 by this logic be curtailed from Wanstead instead of Clapton? You could then extend a route like 473 to Wanstead from Stratford to create stand space at Stratford bus station and to replace 308. I don't see why 67 of all routes should be diverted to Stratford and if that is not enough, you've already got Greater Anglia trains every 15 minutes to Tottenham Hale from Stratford. 67 doesn't serve Tottenham Hale My bad. But my point about curtailing 308 from Wanstead instead of Clapton still does stand although I would rather 308 remain untouched in its entirety. I see your point about the links a diverted 67 would create, but I do not think 67 is the route to use.
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 30, 2022 20:45:03 GMT
16 extend to Brent Park Tesco via 332
32 extend to Lancaster Gate via 332 or via Maida Hill then via the 46
332 withdrawn
23 will go to Aldwych as planned along with a New N23 Aldwych to Wembley Park
98 Keep at Holborn
6 keep to Aldwych
73 extend to Hammersmith via 9 or 390 withdrawn from Victoria and Hyde Park Cornea then extend to Hammersith
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 30, 2022 21:06:23 GMT
67 doesn't serve Tottenham Hale My bad. But my point about curtailing 308 from Wanstead instead of Clapton still does stand although I would rather 308 remain untouched in its entirety. I see your point about the links a diverted 67 would create, but I do not think 67 is the route to use. Bare in mind the 67 from what I see is quite vulnerable to being cut with past suggestions for withdrawal, especially with the Stamford Hill to Dalston corridor where I can see TFL reducing. There may be a point the route will eventually have to restructure routing elsewhere as one of the options.
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