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Post by greg on Jun 23, 2024 1:48:58 GMT
1 month after it entered service, SEe329 is still yet to make its debut on the route it was purchased for - the 439, despite there being no obvious reason why it can't be used on the route and it being at the same garage. Despite the 439 and 450 being under a common user pool, this is rather strange... This had me thinking, has there been any other cases where a new bus (or batch of buses) entered service from the garage it was supposed to be based at but avoided making it's debut on the route it was bought new for until two weeks or more after it entered service for no obvious reason? The buses ordered for the 54/75 but were diverted to East London i think for BK? |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2024 3:14:27 GMT
1 month after it entered service, SEe329 is still yet to make its debut on the route it was purchased for - the 439, despite there being no obvious reason why it can't be used on the route and it being at the same garage. Despite the 439 and 450 being under a common user pool, this is rather strange... This had me thinking, has there been any other cases where a new bus (or batch of buses) entered service from the garage it was supposed to be based at but avoided making it's debut on the route it was bought new for until two weeks or more after it entered service for no obvious reason? The buses ordered for the 54/75 but were diverted to East London i think for BK? Those buses (the Gemini3's) were diverted to PD for the 53 with the 54/75 receiving Enviro 400H's instead |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 23, 2024 8:44:09 GMT
1 month after it entered service, SEe329 is still yet to make its debut on the route it was purchased for - the 439, despite there being no obvious reason why it can't be used on the route and it being at the same garage. Despite the 439 and 450 being under a common user pool, this is rather strange... This had me thinking, has there been any other cases where a new bus (or batch of buses) entered service from the garage it was supposed to be based at but avoided making it's debut on the route it was bought new for until two weeks or more after it entered service for no obvious reason? The buses ordered for the 54/75 but were diverted to East London i think for BK? Technically doesn’t count here as they didn’t enter service from Catford… |
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 23, 2024 9:25:30 GMT
The buses ordered for the 54/75 but were diverted to East London i think for BK? Technically doesn’t count here as they didn’t enter service from Catford… The batch for the 54 & 75 were intended for those routes. It was the 136 that got the East London batch with its E400s transferred to East London. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 29, 2024 6:00:13 GMT
where do the 143 and 43 meet? Route 43 meets route 143 at Archway, route 243 at Old Street and route 343 at London Bridge. |
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Post by randomy on Jun 29, 2024 13:48:04 GMT
Batchworth Heath (331/R1 R2) and Mount Vernon Hospital / Bishops Wood Hospitals (331 R1/2) are the only TfL bus stops in Hertfordshire
Bushey Heath High Road (142 Curtailed/258 Curtailed) is the only TfL bus stand in Hertfordshire
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Post by djs76 on Jun 29, 2024 13:56:21 GMT
Batchworth Heath (331/R1 R2) and Mount Vernon Hospital / Bishops Wood Hospitals (331 R1/2) are the only TfL bus stops in Hertfordshire Bushey Heath High Road (142 Curtailed/258 Curtailed) is the only TfL bus stand in Hertfordshire What about Waltham Cross? |
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Post by randomy on Jun 29, 2024 15:24:57 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jun 29, 2024 15:45:56 GMT
RATP's TV garage has now lost the 404/465/639/670/S3 and now the 655 to TUK,and in less than a year.This must be a record.Can anyone recall a bigger loss like this?
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 29, 2024 16:15:27 GMT
RATP's TV garage has now lost the 404/465/639/670/S3,all to TUK,and in less than a year.This must be a record.Can anyone recall a bigger loss like this? PVR of about 21. There have definitely been bigger BW lost the 26/N26 & 30 in one day, BN lost 133/N133 & 333 both double that PVR of TVs losses… DT looses 99 269 & 401 a PVR of 35 in January 2025. 35/N35 & 40 have swapped between WL & Q quite a large PVR in one day however the 35/N35 started with QB when they first got it. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 29, 2024 17:01:20 GMT
Batchworth Heath (331/R1 R2) and Mount Vernon Hospital / Bishops Wood Hospitals (331 R1/2) are the only TfL bus stops in Hertfordshire Bushey Heath High Road (142 Curtailed/258 Curtailed) is the only TfL bus stand in Hertfordshire When I was last out that way, the two stops at Bushey Heath, Common Road (formerly 'The Alpine') were TfL stops, although a boundary change on the 1990s had taken them into Hertfordshire. |
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Post by finchleybuslover on Jun 30, 2024 8:37:05 GMT
They come in the same area but they never actually meet as in share road/a stop
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 1, 2024 21:37:36 GMT
borneobus brought this up but I definitely think is worth conversation about: which TfL route has the longest number of consecutive stops not shared by any other. The 465 after Chessington world of Aventuresc becomes a lone wolf and has 32 stops not shared with any other TfL route. This is probably right, the only routes like the 465 I could think of which could compete with this are the 81 and 405, of course all venturing way out of London. However, I only counted 18 on the 405 and 20 for the 81. The next honourable mention is the 403. I can’t recall any other route in London like this, where after it leaves a major hub becomes a total lone wolf for the whole rest of the route (Croydon in the 403’s case) The 403 has 20 stops where it runs totally alone via Sanderstead to Warlingham, and there’s more: As SILENCED mentioned, for routes that run entirely within the confines of TfL land, the 403 probably does have the most amount of lone stops. But something else interesting is that while the 465 doesn’t connect with any other TfL routes for 32 stops, it does actually connect with other provincial bus routes for most of those 32, technically making it not an entire lone wolf. Coming back to the 403, it runs completely alone for the first 17 of its stops before meeting with a couple of provincial routes (the Metrobus 409 and 411) around Warlingham Sainsbury’s. So unless anyone can come up with any other routes with anything longer that I’ve missed, I make the 403 to be the route with the longest amount of consecutive stops not connecting with any other at 17. (With the 465 being the longest to not connect with any other TfL route)
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Post by londonbuses on Jul 1, 2024 22:14:00 GMT
borneobus brought this up but I definitely think is worth conversation about: which TfL route has the longest number of consecutive stops not shared by any other. The 465 after Chessington world of Aventuresc becomes a lone wolf and has 32 stops not shared with any other TfL route. This is probably right, the only routes like the 465 I could think of which could compete with this are the 81 and 405, of course all venturing way out of London. However, I only counted 18 on the 405 and 20 for the 81. The next honourable mention is the 403. I can’t recall any other route in London like this, where after it leaves a major hub becomes a total lone wolf for the whole rest of the route (Croydon in the 403’s case) The 403 has 20 stops where it runs totally alone via Sanderstead to Warlingham, and there’s more: As SILENCED mentioned, for routes that run entirely within the confines of TfL land, the 403 probably does have the most amount of lone stops. But something else interesting is that while the 465 doesn’t connect with any other TfL routes for 32 stops, it does actually connect with other provincial bus routes for most of those 32, technically making it not an entire lone wolf. Coming back to the 403, it runs completely alone for the first 17 of its stops before meeting with a couple of provincial routes (the Metrobus 409 and 411) around Warlingham Sainsbury’s. So unless anyone can come up with any other routes with anything longer that I’ve missed, I make the 403 to be the route with the longest amount of consecutive stops not connecting with any other at 17. (With the 465 being the longest to not connect with any other TfL route) I believe the K3 (towards Esher only) has a section of 22 consecutive stops not connecting with any other routes between Surbiton and Esher (in the other direction it shares a couple of stops with a non-TfL school route). |
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Post by bluepuffy on Jul 2, 2024 23:27:57 GMT
borneobus brought this up but I definitely think is worth conversation about: which TfL route has the longest number of consecutive stops not shared by any other. The 465 after Chessington world of Aventuresc becomes a lone wolf and has 32 stops not shared with any other TfL route. This is probably right, the only routes like the 465 I could think of which could compete with this are the 81 and 405, of course all venturing way out of London. However, I only counted 18 on the 405 and 20 for the 81. The next honourable mention is the 403. I can’t recall any other route in London like this, where after it leaves a major hub becomes a total lone wolf for the whole rest of the route (Croydon in the 403’s case) The 403 has 20 stops where it runs totally alone via Sanderstead to Warlingham, and there’s more: As SILENCED mentioned, for routes that run entirely within the confines of TfL land, the 403 probably does have the most amount of lone stops. But something else interesting is that while the 465 doesn’t connect with any other TfL routes for 32 stops, it does actually connect with other provincial bus routes for most of those 32, technically making it not an entire lone wolf. Coming back to the 403, it runs completely alone for the first 17 of its stops before meeting with a couple of provincial routes (the Metrobus 409 and 411) around Warlingham Sainsbury’s. So unless anyone can come up with any other routes with anything longer that I’ve missed, I make the 403 to be the route with the longest amount of consecutive stops not connecting with any other at 17. (With the 465 being the longest to not connect with any other TfL route) The 166 unfortunately falls just short with 16 consecutive stops (if headed to Epsom Hospital and not counting Non-TfL buses), however I believe it holds the most lone stops for a bus that starts from the London Borough of Croydon at around 29 if not counting Non-TfL buses, falling short at Banstead where it meets with the S1 for until the Marks & Spencers then again at Epsom High Street. Seeing which boroughs buses have the most and least consecutive stops with no other buses would be a fun subject to look into ngl. |
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