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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 26, 2021 10:23:58 GMT
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Post by richard on Apr 26, 2021 13:00:25 GMT
Ironically, Niko Omilana did a similar thing, albeit with an open-topped Routemaster that he converted to a restaurant. That is a very strange way to advertise to people, there isn't much advertisement on the bus, but whatever, I suppose. That's an East Lancs Myllennium DD (whichever chassis), right? Looks like a ELC Lolyne to me which would mean it's on a Dennis Trident chassis. The Vyking was on a Volvo B7TL chassis, Lowlander on a DB250 chassis & Omnidekka on a Scania N94UD & N230/270UD chassis. It looks like a SLE |
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 26, 2021 13:40:42 GMT
This is just a tactical move he's making here. Given Tfl finances at the moment I'd be surprised if it does come to an end and reverts back to how the congestion charge was at prior to covid. As for Ulez a whole heap of people with pre 2015 diesel cars are going to be stung come October. |
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Post by richard on Apr 26, 2021 16:06:01 GMT
Sadiq Khan and Shaun Bailey are currently on BBC Radio London for a debate
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Post by vjaska on Apr 26, 2021 17:09:45 GMT
Looks like a ELC Lolyne to me which would mean it's on a Dennis Trident chassis. The Vyking was on a Volvo B7TL chassis, Lowlander on a DB250 chassis & Omnidekka on a Scania N94UD & N230/270UD chassis. It looks like a SLE It's not an Omnidekka, it's a Lolyne as already confirmed by redexpress A SLE would not have any vent at the rear on the offside as they were all N94UD's - only N230/270/310UD's have vents on the offside on an Omnidekka |
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Post by ronnie on Apr 30, 2021 14:40:20 GMT
1 more stabbing, this time at 9am of a 13-year old boy on way to school. 4th stabbing (1 fatal) within the last 1 year within a 1km radius from home
In my view this is a systematic failure of Sadiq Khan. He can sing paeans about everything else and blame a lot of other people but really he hasn’t done anything at all on stabbing / acid attacks
Unfortunately there is no other candidate good enough frankly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 14:56:18 GMT
1 more stabbing, this time at 9am of a 13-year old boy on way to school. 4th stabbing (1 fatal) within the last 1 year within a 1km radius from home In my view this is a systematic failure of Sadiq Khan. He can sing paeans about everything else and blame a lot of other people but really he hasn’t done anything at all on stabbing / acid attacks Unfortunately there is no other candidate good enough frankly. Newham has suffered two murders and one person attacked and hit by a car in the space of 7 days. I don't personally see how the blame can be laid just at the Mayor he personally can't change the behaviour of these people going out and committing these awful crimes. |
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Post by busman on Apr 30, 2021 15:54:29 GMT
People blaming the mayor for someone else thinking it’s ok to murder another human. As if we have no agency over our actions. It’s all well and good having metal detectors, stop and search, more police etc, but nome of those address the root causes. Morality is lacking in our society. Too many people doing what they want, when they want, in order to get what they want. These people don’t fear prison either.
Change the mayor by all means, but that won’t change the hearts and minds of the people committing these crimes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:27:28 GMT
People blaming the mayor for someone else thinking it’s ok to murder another human. As if we have no agency over our actions. It’s all well and good having metal detectors, stop and search, more police etc, but nome of those address the root causes. Morality is lacking in our society. Too many people doing what they want, when they want, in order to get what they want. These people don’t fear prison either. Change the mayor by all means, but that won’t change the hearts and minds of the people committing these crimes. The mayor, regardless of who it is, needs to be proactive towards looking at the root causes of these murders whether it is environmental, upbringing whatever and not just reactive with rhetoric blaming everyone else for their own failings. The mayor as the de facto head of policing in London is responsible and that is just fact. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 30, 2021 22:10:32 GMT
People blaming the mayor for someone else thinking it’s ok to murder another human. As if we have no agency over our actions. It’s all well and good having metal detectors, stop and search, more police etc, but nome of those address the root causes. Morality is lacking in our society. Too many people doing what they want, when they want, in order to get what they want. These people don’t fear prison either. Change the mayor by all means, but that won’t change the hearts and minds of the people committing these crimes. The mayor, regardless of who it is, needs to be proactive towards looking at the root causes of these murders whether it is environmental, upbringing whatever and not just reactive with rhetoric blaming everyone else for their own failings. The mayor as the de facto head of policing in London is responsible and that is just fact. I think it's a sticky one, while the mayor is indeed charge of policing in London, his resources are provided by the Home Office and Home Secretary so he's limited in what he can do. Obviously an opposing party in government means that the mayor and Home Secretary will pretty much always be at odds over who's fault this is. The issue in a lot of East London anyway is the postcode wars which started in the 2000s when Ken and Boris were the mayors, I think the increased use of social media has obviously brought a lot more of these to light now. Goodness knows how many murders are actually covered up before anyone realises, there's probably many shallow graves in places like Epping Forest where evidence has been hidden. Then many stabbings actually have the person never actually seek medical help and die on their own, and it doesn't go down as a stabbing but rather a natural death. The clear reason for a lot of these crimes is poverty, the young children can't keep themselves occupied at home due to it being a poor environment, they end up on the streets and then end up in a gang. If you sort out high poverty levels then you will sort out crime. The issue here is that London being the city it is means that if you help one group, another group move in because people are always moving to the city in hope of job opportunities. No matter where you plant a police officer, there will be somewhere without a police officer and these are where the crimes will take place. It's the sad reality we live in and is ultimately caused by the people in Westminster as opposed to City Hall. Best course of action would be to obviously vote the Tories out at the next election so that the mayoralty and government are both of the same party. Although it's probably a case of already preaching to the converted in the case of London (obviously I understand not everyone here may be a Labour supporter, but the city is predominantly a Labour heartland). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:49:21 GMT
The mayor, regardless of who it is, needs to be proactive towards looking at the root causes of these murders whether it is environmental, upbringing whatever and not just reactive with rhetoric blaming everyone else for their own failings. The mayor as the de facto head of policing in London is responsible and that is just fact. I think it's a sticky one, while the mayor is indeed charge of policing in London, his resources are provided by the Home Office and Home Secretary so he's limited in what he can do. Obviously an opposing party in government means that the mayor and Home Secretary will pretty much always be at odds over who's fault this is. The issue in a lot of East London anyway is the postcode wars which started in the 2000s when Ken and Boris were the mayors, I think the increased use of social media has obviously brought a lot more of these to light now. Goodness knows how many murders are actually covered up before anyone realises, there's probably many shallow graves in places like Epping Forest where evidence has been hidden. Then many stabbings actually have the person never actually seek medical help and die on their own, and it doesn't go down as a stabbing but rather a natural death. The clear reason for a lot of these crimes is poverty, the young children can't keep themselves occupied at home due to it being a poor environment, they end up on the streets and then end up in a gang. If you sort out high poverty levels then you will sort out crime. The issue here is that London being the city it is means that if you help one group, another group move in because people are always moving to the city in hope of job opportunities. No matter where you plant a police officer, there will be somewhere without a police officer and these are where the crimes will take place. It's the sad reality we live in and is ultimately caused by the people in Westminster as opposed to City Hall. Best course of action would be to obviously vote the Tories out at the next election so that the mayoralty and government are both of the same party. Although it's probably a case of already preaching to the converted in the case of London (obviously I understand not everyone here may be a Labour supporter, but the city is predominantly a Labour heartland). I am so tired of everyone deflecting blame off a mayor who couldn’t organise a pee up in a brewery. The mayor has power to do something but instead he has done nothing. Why not work with charities like the princes trust or the duke of Edinburgh award to launch a mayor of London award within these promoting schemes which are effectively free. Why not launch schemes in partnerships with boroughs schools through citizenship classes instead of courses like RE or Drama below GCSE level to target vulnerable kids who could benefit from schemes like the DofE or Outward Bound but again it’s just excuse after excuse and full on Westminster blaming. You are completely brainwashed to think the tories are the enemy when really the enemy lies within city hall. Throwing money at problems does not solve them, NHS anyone, you just create more wealth without solving the fundamental problem. Put it this way if you have a homeless person a million pounds, yes they have a million pounds but you haven’t solved the problem of why they were homeless in the first place and how they can maintain a life with that million pounds and it’s exactly the same here. Give a family on benefits more money, okay fine, but you haven’t sold the long term problem of how to get them out off benefits or how to ensure their children can escape the same life. That grassroots approach on how to solve this benefits trap and ultimately poverty should start with the mayor and the GLA. That would eventually lead to reducing the benefits bill, freeing up more money for the mayor and eventually solving the alarming growth in crime rates over the last five years in these communities. If you believe voting the tories out and Labour in will solve these long term societal problems than that is rather naive thinking, money wouldn’t solve poverty problems. You need long term plans to upskill, train and schemes to get those people out of the poverty trap. Whilst that should be funded by Westminster in my view it is something that the mayor should be pioneering. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 30, 2021 23:08:31 GMT
I think it's a sticky one, while the mayor is indeed charge of policing in London, his resources are provided by the Home Office and Home Secretary so he's limited in what he can do. Obviously an opposing party in government means that the mayor and Home Secretary will pretty much always be at odds over who's fault this is. The issue in a lot of East London anyway is the postcode wars which started in the 2000s when Ken and Boris were the mayors, I think the increased use of social media has obviously brought a lot more of these to light now. Goodness knows how many murders are actually covered up before anyone realises, there's probably many shallow graves in places like Epping Forest where evidence has been hidden. Then many stabbings actually have the person never actually seek medical help and die on their own, and it doesn't go down as a stabbing but rather a natural death. The clear reason for a lot of these crimes is poverty, the young children can't keep themselves occupied at home due to it being a poor environment, they end up on the streets and then end up in a gang. If you sort out high poverty levels then you will sort out crime. The issue here is that London being the city it is means that if you help one group, another group move in because people are always moving to the city in hope of job opportunities. No matter where you plant a police officer, there will be somewhere without a police officer and these are where the crimes will take place. It's the sad reality we live in and is ultimately caused by the people in Westminster as opposed to City Hall. Best course of action would be to obviously vote the Tories out at the next election so that the mayoralty and government are both of the same party. Although it's probably a case of already preaching to the converted in the case of London (obviously I understand not everyone here may be a Labour supporter, but the city is predominantly a Labour heartland). I am so tired of everyone deflecting blame off a mayor who couldn’t organise a pee up in a brewery. The mayor has power to do something but instead he has done nothing. Why not work with charities like the princes trust or the duke of Edinburgh award to launch a mayor of London award within these promoting schemes which are effectively free. Why not launch schemes in partnerships with boroughs schools through citizenship classes instead of courses like RE or Drama below GCSE level to target vulnerable kids who could benefit from schemes like the DofE or Outward Bound but again it’s just excuse after excuse and full on Westminster blaming. You are completely brainwashed to think the tories are the enemy when really the enemy lies within city hall. Throwing money at problems does not solve them, NHS anyone, you just create more wealth without solving the fundamental problem. Put it this way if you have a homeless person a million pounds, yes they have a million pounds but you haven’t solved the problem of why they were homeless in the first place and how they can maintain a life with that million pounds and it’s exactly the same here. Give a family on benefits more money, okay fine, but you haven’t sold the long term problem of how to get them out off benefits or how to ensure their children can escape the same life. That grassroots approach on how to solve this benefits trap and ultimately poverty should start with the mayor and the GLA. That would eventually lead to reducing the benefits bill, freeing up more money for the mayor and eventually solving the alarming growth in crime rates over the last five years in these communities. If you believe voting the tories out and Labour in will solve these long term societal problems than that is rather naive thinking, money wouldn’t solve poverty problems. You need long term plans to upskill, train and schemes to get those people out of the poverty trap. Whilst that should be funded by Westminster in my view it is something that the mayor should be pioneering. Citizenship is already a class, I don't think viewing Drama and Religious Studies is a good way to go. You'll cause far more backlash removing them. You could only also really implement these through control of councils. Which would probably be fine if the council is Labour controlled and doesn't have a high academy proportion. But councils which are controlled by the opposing party or are controlled by academy trusts are unlikely to want to change the way they're educating students because they think it will be the best. Something about these DofE awards or the NCS is that these vulnerable kids never actually take part in them. It's always the ones who care about their education, have parents pushing them and would love to write it on a University personal statement. These are not the children who are committing crime. Youth Centres and Youth Programmes exist, it's really hard to persuade children who fall victim to crime to use them. What's a child in a gang going to believe? That a youth centre might help them, or they'll be killed for leaving the gang? It's not an easy problem to solve by just launching random youth programmes left, right and centre. These centres are often seen as "wet" to put it into urban language so they are never taken advantage of. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 7:30:24 GMT
I am so tired of everyone deflecting blame off a mayor who couldn’t organise a pee up in a brewery. The mayor has power to do something but instead he has done nothing. Why not work with charities like the princes trust or the duke of Edinburgh award to launch a mayor of London award within these promoting schemes which are effectively free. Why not launch schemes in partnerships with boroughs schools through citizenship classes instead of courses like RE or Drama below GCSE level to target vulnerable kids who could benefit from schemes like the DofE or Outward Bound but again it’s just excuse after excuse and full on Westminster blaming. You are completely brainwashed to think the tories are the enemy when really the enemy lies within city hall. Throwing money at problems does not solve them, NHS anyone, you just create more wealth without solving the fundamental problem. Put it this way if you have a homeless person a million pounds, yes they have a million pounds but you haven’t solved the problem of why they were homeless in the first place and how they can maintain a life with that million pounds and it’s exactly the same here. Give a family on benefits more money, okay fine, but you haven’t sold the long term problem of how to get them out off benefits or how to ensure their children can escape the same life. That grassroots approach on how to solve this benefits trap and ultimately poverty should start with the mayor and the GLA. That would eventually lead to reducing the benefits bill, freeing up more money for the mayor and eventually solving the alarming growth in crime rates over the last five years in these communities. If you believe voting the tories out and Labour in will solve these long term societal problems than that is rather naive thinking, money wouldn’t solve poverty problems. You need long term plans to upskill, train and schemes to get those people out of the poverty trap. Whilst that should be funded by Westminster in my view it is something that the mayor should be pioneering. Citizenship is already a class, I don't think viewing Drama and Religious Studies is a good way to go. You'll cause far more backlash removing them. You could only also really implement these through control of councils. Which would probably be fine if the council is Labour controlled and doesn't have a high academy proportion. But councils which are controlled by the opposing party or are controlled by academy trusts are unlikely to want to change the way they're educating students because they think it will be the best. Something about these DofE awards or the NCS is that these vulnerable kids never actually take part in them. It's always the ones who care about their education, have parents pushing them and would love to write it on a University personal statement. These are not the children who are committing crime. Youth Centres and Youth Programmes exist, it's really hard to persuade children who fall victim to crime to use them. What's a child in a gang going to believe? That a youth centre might help them, or they'll be killed for leaving the gang? It's not an easy problem to solve by just launching random youth programmes left, right and centre. These centres are often seen as "wet" to put it into urban language so they are never taken advantage of. It’s thinking like yours that writes these vulnerable kids off before they are given a chance. I’m sure many of them would love to do DofE or Outward Bound but simply aren’t offered them or advised on how to get on them. DofE has changed the lives of thousands of kids across the country and the mayor should use his influence to promote schemes like that which would teach skills not offered in school to show these kids a different way within a structured school environment. If they were offered vulnerable kids these schemes in school instead of certain lessons that might help them long term and if they then go and join a gang that is solely on them but you have to give them an chance. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 1, 2021 8:40:25 GMT
Citizenship is already a class, I don't think viewing Drama and Religious Studies is a good way to go. You'll cause far more backlash removing them. You could only also really implement these through control of councils. Which would probably be fine if the council is Labour controlled and doesn't have a high academy proportion. But councils which are controlled by the opposing party or are controlled by academy trusts are unlikely to want to change the way they're educating students because they think it will be the best. Something about these DofE awards or the NCS is that these vulnerable kids never actually take part in them. It's always the ones who care about their education, have parents pushing them and would love to write it on a University personal statement. These are not the children who are committing crime. Youth Centres and Youth Programmes exist, it's really hard to persuade children who fall victim to crime to use them. What's a child in a gang going to believe? That a youth centre might help them, or they'll be killed for leaving the gang? It's not an easy problem to solve by just launching random youth programmes left, right and centre. These centres are often seen as "wet" to put it into urban language so they are never taken advantage of. It’s thinking like yours that writes these vulnerable kids off before they are given a chance. I’m sure many of them would love to do DofE or Outward Bound but simply aren’t offered them or advised on how to get on them. DofE has changed the lives of thousands of kids across the country and the mayor should use his influence to promote schemes like that which would teach skills not offered in school to show these kids a different way within a structured school environment. If they were offered vulnerable kids these schemes in school instead of certain lessons that might help them long term and if they then go and join a gang that is solely on them but you have to give them an chance. However the DofE and the NCS are both already offered in school. These organisations come in many times a year to schools to get people to sign up, even with incentives for ones who sign up earlier. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 2, 2021 22:20:01 GMT
There is a debate on BBC1 at the moment about the mayor of London candidates with only the 4 main political parties. I think the issue is that the more people they have, the more cost and the higher the risk of covid transmission. While it's extremely unfair to all the independent people, I genuinely think that some of them could gain a far higher support. It's extremely unlikely any of them would win the mayoralty so have probably been missed out. I'm actually surprised even the LibDems and Greens are there since both of them stand pretty much no chance. Bailey is the only candidate that has any possibility at all of unseating Khan, and even that's extremely unlikely in itself. So it makes sense to just cut costs, although I think this election could be the start of many more independent candidates standing for mayoral elections in the future. The first one was won by an independent  |
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