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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 17, 2024 22:54:05 GMT
LOL to everyone thinking Susan Hall and the Tories had saner ideas. Burberry Line anyone? The money would've been spent anyway regardless of what the lines would be named as part of simplification though very much in character for them to suggest a profit making opportunity (wonder what they said about Burberry/Bond Street a few months ago though)
Much more saner than that pathetic nonsense from your local neighbourhood leftist buddy. End of the day the London Overground network was becoming far too tangled and it was actually an amalgam of separate lines. Naming them is a good idea, the problem actually rising on social media is more so the names that were picked as opposed to the fact that they are being named. The Tories are in no way the saner option here, showing themselves to be anti-rail with scrapping HS2 and are now even seen to be taking steps to sell off the land before the next election so that a future Labour government can't reverse the decision. I'm sure if it was up to Susan Hall one of the lines would end up called the British Gas Line, another the Emirates Line and probably a Saudi Armco one too where they try to sell off naming rights. Like I said there's plenty of things to attack Khan on, but the competition is doing an amazing job of pitching themselves as the worse option.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 18, 2024 10:05:39 GMT
Much more saner than that pathetic nonsense from your local neighbourhood leftist buddy. End of the day the London Overground network was becoming far too tangled and it was actually an amalgam of separate lines. Naming them is a good idea, the problem actually rising on social media is more so the names that were picked as opposed to the fact that they are being named. The Tories are in no way the saner option here, showing themselves to be anti-rail with scrapping HS2 and are now even seen to be taking steps to sell off the land before the next election so that a future Labour government can't reverse the decision. I'm sure if it was up to Susan Hall one of the lines would end up called the British Gas Line, another the Emirates Line and probably a Saudi Armco one too where they try to sell off naming rights. Like I said there's plenty of things to attack Khan on, but the competition is doing an amazing job of pitching themselves as the worse option. 100% agreed on the Overground network being a tangled mess. Or an orange Tangoe’d mess. It’s just the names are so very lame. I would have gone with the Churchill Line for one and the Diana Line for another for sure.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 18, 2024 11:50:55 GMT
End of the day the London Overground network was becoming far too tangled and it was actually an amalgam of separate lines. Naming them is a good idea, the problem actually rising on social media is more so the names that were picked as opposed to the fact that they are being named. The Tories are in no way the saner option here, showing themselves to be anti-rail with scrapping HS2 and are now even seen to be taking steps to sell off the land before the next election so that a future Labour government can't reverse the decision. I'm sure if it was up to Susan Hall one of the lines would end up called the British Gas Line, another the Emirates Line and probably a Saudi Armco one too where they try to sell off naming rights. Like I said there's plenty of things to attack Khan on, but the competition is doing an amazing job of pitching themselves as the worse option. 100% agreed on the Overground network being a tangled mess. Or an orange Tangoe’d mess. It’s just the names are so very lame. I would have gone with the Churchill Line for one and the Diana Line for another for sure. We do not need names of people, Why Princess Diana for? Makes no sense. Churchill would make no sense either, nearest line to Churchill would be the Chingford branch, but do not see the need for MP's to have their names on the lines. For me it is an insult when a pathetic mayor can do this crap with a PR team of gullible numpties who buy his BS. I understand the logic of renaming the lines, but the names and way it was chosen makes no sense. The windrush line is an insult to the windrush generation especially when the line that goes through windrush territory is not even named so. As usual idiots at TfL have no REAL clue of the network and are steering a ship headed to Davy Jones locker captained by Kalamity Khan. They deserve every type of negativity towards them as possible. London Underground: How the Overground's new names were chosenThe simplicity of the London Underground map, created in 1933 by Harry Beck, has made it a national icon. On Thursday, Transport for London (TfL) announced a makeover of the map, with new names and colours for its six London Overground lines. The BBC spoke to TfL and a creative agency involved with the project about how the names were chosen.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68315382
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 18, 2024 13:01:27 GMT
100% agreed on the Overground network being a tangled mess. Or an orange Tangoe’d mess. It’s just the names are so very lame. I would have gone with the Churchill Line for one and the Diana Line for another for sure. We do not need names of people, Why Princess Diana for? Makes no sense. Churchill would make no sense either, nearest line to Churchill would be the Chingford branch, but do not see the need for MP's to have their names on the lines. For me it is an insult when a pathetic mayor can do this crap with a PR team of gullible numpties who buy his BS. I understand the logic of renaming the lines, but the names and way it was chosen makes no sense. The windrush line is an insult to the windrush generation especially when the line that goes through windrush territory is not even named so. As usual idiots at TfL have no REAL clue of the network and are steering a ship headed to Davy Jones locker captained by Kalamity Khan. They deserve every type of negativity towards them as possible. London Underground: How the Overground's new names were chosenThe simplicity of the London Underground map, created in 1933 by Harry Beck, has made it a national icon. On Thursday, Transport for London (TfL) announced a makeover of the map, with new names and colours for its six London Overground lines. The BBC spoke to TfL and a creative agency involved with the project about how the names were chosen.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68315382Churchill’s leadership helped get us through WW2, and Princess Diana was an influential person that did lots for charity. They make more sense than the silly names they’ve chosen. No one even knows what any of them represent. The Lioness one is the silliest, and it’s sexist to insinuate that women’s football is more important than men’s.
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 18, 2024 16:25:39 GMT
The names are so overly politicly correct that I think the PC principal from South Park must be working for Khan. It’s cringe. Eric Cartman, director of New Rail Experience & Diversity is sure making his £294k salary
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 18, 2024 23:42:46 GMT
The names are so overly politicly correct that I think the PC principal from South Park must be working for Khan. It’s cringe. Eric Cartman, director of New Rail Experience & Diversity is sure making his £294k salary Overpaid by £280k
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 19, 2024 1:16:46 GMT
I have no issue with the reasons why these names were chosen in general, however I'm still of the opinion that a couple were not the best fit. Having given a bit of time to let them sink in, I'd say that despite some of the issues noted by others earlier in the thread (in particular the ELL not being a good fit for the Windrush name), most are at least suitable as line names in the sense that I expect them to catch on and in time become memorable as referring to each service - though it might take longer than with the Elizabeth line as there are no new sections and it's six new names at once. However, 'Lioness line' still sounds slightly awkward to me, perhaps due to the first and last syllables being quite similar combined with it seeming odd to name a line directly after a current team. Regarding the map, I would agree that the Shoreditch / Hackney / Walthamstow area in particular had become too much of an orange web making it hard to immediately pick out individual lines, but the advantage of having all of the Overground orange was it helped the Underground lines in particular show more prominently. That's not to say that the Overground should just be considered of secondary importance, but using additional colours for these services just increases the clutter which is already an issue with current maps. I'm not sure what the best solution to this would be though, as a separate Tube-only map would be of little use to anyone travelling outside of zone 1. At least with the many alternatives to paper maps and posters these days it's a lot less of a problem than it would have been in the past. I think the PC principal from South Park must be working for Khan. Eric Cartman, director of New Rail Experience & Diversity is sure making his £294k salary Well, if there is now some kind of link between South Park and TfL, I hope I didn't somehow cause that by wearing a Stan Marsh hat while travelling around the network on a couple of occasions during the recent-ish cold weather.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 19, 2024 10:38:31 GMT
I think if I was in charge I’d keep Orange for the South/East London line (or Windrush Line ugh) as there isn’t many colours left to use and it seems silly not to use orange somewhere on the map. Just not for the whole Overground network.
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Post by route53 on Feb 19, 2024 11:30:56 GMT
I think if I was in charge I’d keep Orange for the South/East London line (or Windrush Line ugh) as there isn’t many colours left to use and it seems silly not to use orange somewhere on the map. Just not for the whole Overground network. Silliness is one way to describe Khan’s era 🤣 But I agree, since the Overground is based around the South-East London line (I refuse to use the woke names) that line should have kept the Orange colour, the original ELL was orange so it makes sense for it to remain so
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Post by Green Kitten on Feb 19, 2024 11:42:03 GMT
What would have been effective is the North/West London Line being coloured one shade of orange, and the East/South London Line being coloured a different shade of orange, so that the outer circle is still of prominence on the map.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 19, 2024 12:19:36 GMT
I think if I was in charge I’d keep Orange for the South/East London line (or Windrush Line ugh) as there isn’t many colours left to use and it seems silly not to use orange somewhere on the map. Just not for the whole Overground network. Silliness is one way to describe Khan’s era 🤣 But I agree, since the Overground is based around the South-East London line (I refuse to use the woke names) that line should have kept the Orange colour, the original ELL was orange so it makes sense for it to remain so Yes definitely, it would be nice to keep it orange as it acknowledges it’s history as the old East London tube line.
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 19, 2024 12:23:35 GMT
What would have been effective is the North/West London Line being coloured one shade of orange, and the East/South London Line being coloured a different shade of orange, so that the outer circle is still of prominence on the map. Maybe the classic orange shade for the South/East London line and a more yellow-ish orange for the North/West London line. Then the Watford, Goblin, Lea Valley and Romford lines could have completely different colours.
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Post by ADH45258 on Feb 19, 2024 15:20:26 GMT
What would have been effective is the North/West London Line being coloured one shade of orange, and the East/South London Line being coloured a different shade of orange, so that the outer circle is still of prominence on the map. They probably could have just done the whole thing in orange-based colours, similar to the DLR map where different versions of turquoise are used to distinguish the different lines? Because currently some of the colours planned are very similar to those used on tube lines, in some cases in similar areas. You could probably repeat the same colour for two Overground lines providing they operate in different areas, e.g. the Euston and Liverpool Street routes? Maybe even just split into three categories: - North Orbital (NLL/WLL + Goblin) - South Orbital (ELL/SLL) - Radial routes (Euston + Liv St + maybe Romford-Upminster too)
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Post by Dillon95 on Feb 21, 2024 9:04:32 GMT
What would have been effective is the North/West London Line being coloured one shade of orange, and the East/South London Line being coloured a different shade of orange, so that the outer circle is still of prominence on the map. They probably could have just done the whole thing in orange-based colours, similar to the DLR map where different versions of turquoise are used to distinguish the different lines? Because currently some of the colours planned are very similar to those used on tube lines, in some cases in similar areas. You could probably repeat the same colour for two Overground lines providing they operate in different areas, e.g. the Euston and Liverpool Street routes? Maybe even just split into three categories: - North Orbital (NLL/WLL + Goblin) - South Orbital (ELL/SLL) - Radial routes (Euston + Liv St + maybe Romford-Upminster too) Yeah maybe. But then again on the actual Tube Map as well as on the London Rail & Tube map, the entire DLR network is the same shade of turquoise. They should change that.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 21, 2024 12:23:36 GMT
Much more saner than that pathetic nonsense from your local neighbourhood leftist buddy. End of the day the London Overground network was becoming far too tangled and it was actually an amalgam of separate lines. Naming them is a good idea, the problem actually rising on social media is more so the names that were picked as opposed to the fact that they are being named. The Tories are in no way the saner option here, showing themselves to be anti-rail with scrapping HS2 and are now even seen to be taking steps to sell off the land before the next election so that a future Labour government can't reverse the decision. I'm sure if it was up to Susan Hall one of the lines would end up called the British Gas Line, another the Emirates Line and probably a Saudi Armco one too where they try to sell off naming rights. Like I said there's plenty of things to attack Khan on, but the competition is doing an amazing job of pitching themselves as the worse option. Quoting myself, but seems the quip I made about the Tories trying to sell of naming rights seems to be true after all www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/sadiq-khan-london-overground-line-names-naming-rights-conservatives-tories-money-transport-tfl-b1139639.htmlWe can probably take solace in the fact that despite Khan is bad, the Tories will always find a way to be worse.
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