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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 26, 2023 21:25:51 GMT
Gotta laugh at Chelsea, 5 defeats from 5 for Lampard! Watch these guys come and get a result next Tuesday. Na we won't... You got your three points
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 26, 2023 23:37:24 GMT
Watch these guys come and get a result next Tuesday. Na we won't... You got your three points I wouldn't be too sure
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 26, 2023 23:43:17 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season.
I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse.
This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996.
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Post by northlondon83 on Apr 27, 2023 6:03:10 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season. I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse. This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996. It's also pretty similar to Liverpool in 2013/14
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 27, 2023 11:02:56 GMT
Na we won't... You got your three points I wouldn't be too sure I am 100% sure
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 27, 2023 21:05:54 GMT
I would not call losing the title to Leicester bottling it. They were never really up with them. In fact you could argue it was Arsenal who were ahead at stages that season and like many seasons in the 2010s they lost their way in Feb/March. Spurs fell away the rest of that season by the had CL football and so were not really caring about finishing ahead of Arsenal at the stage. This week is the anniversary of the famous Gerrard slip (possibly on a bottle). That is a good example of bottling it (not including the Palace 3-3 as it was technically in City's hand before that game anyway). I think Tottenham have not been good enough to be in a position to bottle anything really. By my definition of bottling it (being in a good position and losing your nerve), Arsenal have by far more examples in the last 15 years and this season could be another case. Spurs certainly bottled the chance to get 4th place, but there's been unrest in the squad, with Stellini, and ultimately with Levy who controls where they can leave for (transfers). There was even talk of Kane to Chelsea once Pochettino takes over. If Lampard loses another game, I think it's curtains for him. Todd Boehly has been in the dressing room telling players how bad they are Chelsea want to unveil Poch as manager to get in a dig at Spurs fans who would love to see him return (the same problems that made him go in the first place are still there, in Levy and tired players like Dier and Davies). The Elephant in the tree that is Arsenal may fall from the boughs soon if they keep throwing away leads. Don't want to see City win the league again, it's getting boring Spurs are offering compensation for the Newcastle humiliation through their franchisee. This came through the post today Todd Boehly is clueless. So stealing Poch from Spurs nose, does not mean they would get instant success. They stole Mudrk from Arsenal believing he was the all singing all dancing player and is yet to score a goal.
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Post by mondraker275 on Apr 29, 2023 10:18:25 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season. I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse. This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996. Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone?
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Post by northlondon83 on Apr 29, 2023 13:00:48 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season. I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse. This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996. Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone? Nah frank Lampard has no clue so Chelsea would be lucky to get one goal
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Post by greenboy on Apr 29, 2023 17:50:16 GMT
Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone? Nah frank Lampard has no clue so Chelsea would be lucky to get one goal Looks like Poch might be in charge by Tuesday?
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Post by Busboy105 on Apr 29, 2023 18:52:02 GMT
Nah frank Lampard has no clue so Chelsea would be lucky to get one goal Looks like Poch might be in charge by Tuesday? No. Lampard is staying in till the end of the season reports are saying
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 30, 2023 11:26:21 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season. I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse. This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996. Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone? Since Saliba has gone off injured the difference in Arsenal's defence is huge
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 12:51:01 GMT
Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone? Since Saliba has gone off injured the difference in Arsenal's defence is huge Rob Holding is NOT premier league quality. I wouldn't be surprised if 1 of 3 things happen on Tuesday. We either lose or draw. No clean sheet and Mudryk scored against Arsenal
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 12:53:21 GMT
To be honest it was expected this would happen. I don't know if we could actually go through a whole season where no team takes 6 points off us. The last time this happened was back in the 13/14 season. I'm really not trying to hear anyone tell me that "ThIs Is PrOgReSs" or "ToP fOuR wAs ThE aIm" because we SHOT ourselves in the foot. We got ourselves eliminated from cup competitions to focus on the league only for us to really mess up. Absolutely no excuse. This is even more painful in the fact that we was in a winnable position. No matter how much you wanna make this a better scenario it's a failure. Whether you like it or not. This reminds me of the Newcastle situation back in 1996. Arsenal needed to beat Man City at the Emirates. That was a point in the season where Man City were not focussed on the league. Right now the treble is focussing them. There is always this theory about cups being a distraction but sometimes it can create focus. Had Liverpool won the league on the last day last season (another Gerrard slip up) I think they would have won the Champions League to complete the four trophies but as soon as they did not, I fancied Madrid and their incredible run. As for Arsenal - Chelsea, Arsenal need to end the run as its Newcastle and Brighton so the winless run could extend to 8 games. Arsenal cant keep a clean sheet and Chelsea cant score so it will be interesting to see what happens (maybe Holding o.g.). Last 6 games Arsenal have conceded 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4. Chelsea baggin 4 or 5 anyone? Only God knows at this stage. Real Madrid on the other hand do seem to turn up in the Champions league even though they've been a bit hit and miss in la liga this season with Barca leading the charge.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2023 15:14:10 GMT
Since Saliba has gone off injured the difference in Arsenal's defence is huge Rob Holding is NOT premier league quality. I wouldn't be surprised if 1 of 3 things happen on Tuesday. We either lose or draw. No clean sheet and Mudryk scored against Arsenal Correction - he isn’t top six quality but could do a job for a mid table team. Anyway, the game against Chelsea is meaningless now unless you want to be tortured personally - title is over and we’ve already been predictably been branded as bottlers (really confused why this term is thrown about so often now) so I’m looking forward to next season and our first Champions League campaign in a while
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 15:48:15 GMT
Rob Holding is NOT premier league quality. I wouldn't be surprised if 1 of 3 things happen on Tuesday. We either lose or draw. No clean sheet and Mudryk scored against Arsenal Correction - he isn’t top six quality but could do a job for a mid table team. Anyway, the game against Chelsea is meaningless now unless you want to be tortured personally - title is over and we’ve already been predictably been branded as bottlers (really confused why this term is thrown about so often now) so I’m looking forward to next season and our first Champions League campaign in a while Realistically who would you give Holding to? I'm in two minds as to how I feel now that we're in the champions league. We got into it this season by virtue of Brighton losing to Forrest this week as opposed to us winning our own match to secure it officially for ourselves. I really do hope we actually do something in the champions league otherwise I feel like it will be a waste of time. I still maintain that Holding is more suited for the championship.
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