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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 16:07:14 GMT
so Premier League returns tonight 😊 My top 6 and bottom 3 predictions for the end of the season. 1. Man City 2. Liverpool 3.Chelsea 4 Arsenal 5. Tottenham 6. Manchester United 18. Leeds United 19. Fulham 20. Bournemouth I think Chelsea may struggle this season. I can see Fulham and Leeds staying up (just about). Nottingham Forest may have that wow factor this season and then get sussed out next season. I can see Southampton flirting around the relegation zone along with maybe Brighton. So I was right about Fulham staying up and Southampton flirting around the relegation zone and Chelsea struggling this season.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2023 16:18:25 GMT
Correction - he isn’t top six quality but could do a job for a mid table team. Anyway, the game against Chelsea is meaningless now unless you want to be tortured personally - title is over and we’ve already been predictably been branded as bottlers (really confused why this term is thrown about so often now) so I’m looking forward to next season and our first Champions League campaign in a while Realistically who would you give Holding to? I'm in two minds as to how I feel now that we're in the champions league. We got into it this season by virtue of Brighton losing to Forrest this week as opposed to us winning our own match to secure it officially for ourselves. I really do hope we actually do something in the champions league otherwise I feel like it will be a waste of time. I still maintain that Holding is more suited for the championship. Your being incredibly harsh on Holding - he isn’t up to standard for us or the top teams but he is capable of being a decent defender for mid table sides. Holding has had admirers from Premier League sides over the last couple of seasons - this season won’t change that fact. We were virtually confirmed for Champions League for weeks now so I’m not bothered how it was achieved - it’s done and that’s the main thing.
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 16:40:05 GMT
Realistically who would you give Holding to? I'm in two minds as to how I feel now that we're in the champions league. We got into it this season by virtue of Brighton losing to Forrest this week as opposed to us winning our own match to secure it officially for ourselves. I really do hope we actually do something in the champions league otherwise I feel like it will be a waste of time. I still maintain that Holding is more suited for the championship. Your being incredibly harsh on Holding - he isn’t up to standard for us or the top teams but he is capable of being a decent defender for mid table sides. Holding has had admirers from Premier League sides over the last couple of seasons - this season won’t change that fact. We were virtually confirmed for Champions League for weeks now so I’m not bothered how it was achieved - it’s done and that’s the main thing. OK you're saying mid table teams but you're not saying which teams you would give him to. The reason why I said he's not premier league quality is because of the amount of mistakes he has made. How he's gone under the radar for as long as he has is unbelievable. The Premier league is extremely competitive and mistakes you make in the Premier league will have more ramifications as opposed to the championship or the lower leagues. If you make a costly mistake in the Premier league you will be punished, plain and simple. Last season for me was the straw that broke the camels back in which I did NOT want Holding anywhere near the first team. The Tottenham game he played last year was unforgivable.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2023 17:20:03 GMT
Your being incredibly harsh on Holding - he isn’t up to standard for us or the top teams but he is capable of being a decent defender for mid table sides. Holding has had admirers from Premier League sides over the last couple of seasons - this season won’t change that fact. We were virtually confirmed for Champions League for weeks now so I’m not bothered how it was achieved - it’s done and that’s the main thing. OK you're saying mid table teams but you're not saying which teams you would give him to. The reason why I said he's not premier league quality is because of the amount of mistakes he has made. How he's gone under the radar for as long as he has is unbelievable. The Premier league is extremely competitive and mistakes you make in the Premier league will have more ramifications as opposed to the championship or the lower leagues. If you make a costly mistake in the Premier league you will be punished, plain and simple. Last season for me was the straw that broke the camels back in which I did NOT want Holding anywhere near the first team. The Tottenham game he played last year was unforgivable. Why do I need to exactly say a specific club? Mid table is pretty self explanatory. Yes he has made a number of mistakes but that doesn’t instantly discount him as a Premier League player. The Premier League is no more competitive than the Championship or lower leagues - in actual fact, there is far more competition in the lower leagues where three quarters of the division could genuinely mount a promotion push and the ramifications are no different - again, it’s arguably worse as the lower league clubs could literally not exist as a result of relegation for instance.
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Post by MKAY315 on Apr 30, 2023 17:27:18 GMT
OK you're saying mid table teams but you're not saying which teams you would give him to. The reason why I said he's not premier league quality is because of the amount of mistakes he has made. How he's gone under the radar for as long as he has is unbelievable. The Premier league is extremely competitive and mistakes you make in the Premier league will have more ramifications as opposed to the championship or the lower leagues. If you make a costly mistake in the Premier league you will be punished, plain and simple. Last season for me was the straw that broke the camels back in which I did NOT want Holding anywhere near the first team. The Tottenham game he played last year was unforgivable. Why do I need to exactly say a specific club? Mid table is pretty self explanatory. Yes he has made a number of mistakes but that doesn’t instantly discount him as a Premier League player. The Premier League is no more competitive than the Championship or lower leagues - in actual fact, there is far more competition in the lower leagues where three quarters of the division could genuinely mount a promotion push and the ramifications are no different - again, it’s arguably worse as the lower league clubs could literally not exist as a result of relegation for instance. No it's not self explanatory as it varies season by season. Hence why I asked which teams as in more than one.
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Post by ServerKing on May 1, 2023 7:45:26 GMT
I think Chelsea may struggle this season. I can see Fulham and Leeds staying up (just about). Nottingham Forest may have that wow factor this season and then get sussed out next season. I can see Southampton flirting around the relegation zone along with maybe Brighton. So I was right about Fulham staying up and Southampton flirting around the relegation zone and Chelsea struggling this season. Every one of the usual 'top teams' are having a nightmare... except Spurs who have a nightmare every season. What was that nonsense against Liverpool? They try my patience. I don't think the best of managers can get a tune out of these players who have been at the club for way too long. I hope there is no European football so they can concentrate on domestic games a little if they are to drop their "Spursy" tag... Thankfully the likes of Moura and Dier will see to that Hopefully the loss of revenue will push Levy out of the club...
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Post by MKAY315 on May 1, 2023 8:06:25 GMT
So I was right about Fulham staying up and Southampton flirting around the relegation zone and Chelsea struggling this season. Every one of the usual 'top teams' are having a nightmare... except Spurs who have a nightmare every season. What was that nonsense against Liverpool? They try my patience. I don't think the best of managers can get a tune out of these players who have been at the club for way too long. I hope there is no European football so they can concentrate on domestic games a little if they are to drop their "Spursy" tag... Thankfully the likes of Moura and Dier will see to that Hopefully the loss of revenue will push Levy out of the club... I'm still laughing at the fact that Richarlison took off his shirt only for Jota to score hahahahaha
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Post by greenboy on May 1, 2023 12:39:51 GMT
Every one of the usual 'top teams' are having a nightmare... except Spurs who have a nightmare every season. What was that nonsense against Liverpool? They try my patience. I don't think the best of managers can get a tune out of these players who have been at the club for way too long. I hope there is no European football so they can concentrate on domestic games a little if they are to drop their "Spursy" tag... Thankfully the likes of Moura and Dier will see to that Hopefully the loss of revenue will push Levy out of the club... I'm still laughing at the fact that Richarlison took off his shirt only for Jota to score hahahahaha
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Post by MKAY315 on May 1, 2023 15:10:16 GMT
I'm still laughing at the fact that Richarlison took off his shirt only for Jota to score hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by greenboy on May 2, 2023 13:09:20 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on May 2, 2023 14:34:06 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65453934Leeds set to sack Gracia and are in talks with Allardyce A bit late I think! Whether Leeds go down or not, I think sacking Gracia will have no impact on the rest of the season! Honestly what are people's obsession with sacking managers. There have been few times this season where it has worked. Most of the times it has not. Lampard has lost every match at Chelsea and was just as woeful at Everton. Viera only got sacked because of a poor run over a few months however they faced tougher opposition and arguably now they have a very good run so it's no surprise that they're beating teams around or below them.
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Post by vjaska on May 2, 2023 16:21:38 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65453934Leeds set to sack Gracia and are in talks with Allardyce A bit late I think! Whether Leeds go down or not, I think sacking Gracia will have no impact on the rest of the season! Honestly what are people's obsession with sacking managers. There have been few times this season where it has worked. Most of the times it has not. Lampard has lost every match at Chelsea and was just as woeful at Everton. Viera only got sacked because of a poor run over a few months however they faced tougher opposition and arguably now they have a very good run so it's no surprise that they're beating teams around or below them. These clubs have no plans - it's like they wake up and suddenly go, "I need to sack the manager" without any thought about how to go about it properly. Allardyce is just a desperation appointment who doesn't fit Leeds style at all, may as well just stick with Gracia
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Post by greenboy on May 2, 2023 16:32:21 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65453934Leeds set to sack Gracia and are in talks with Allardyce A bit late I think! Whether Leeds go down or not, I think sacking Gracia will have no impact on the rest of the season! Honestly what are people's obsession with sacking managers. There have been few times this season where it has worked. Most of the times it has not. Lampard has lost every match at Chelsea and was just as woeful at Everton. Viera only got sacked because of a poor run over a few months however they faced tougher opposition and arguably now they have a very good run so it's no surprise that they're beating teams around or below them. If he keeps them up it will be decision vindicated.
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Post by northlondon83 on May 2, 2023 16:39:47 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65453934Leeds set to sack Gracia and are in talks with Allardyce A bit late I think! Whether Leeds go down or not, I think sacking Gracia will have no impact on the rest of the season! Honestly what are people's obsession with sacking managers. There have been few times this season where it has worked. Most of the times it has not. Lampard has lost every match at Chelsea and was just as woeful at Everton. Viera only got sacked because of a poor run over a few months however they faced tougher opposition and arguably now they have a very good run so it's no surprise that they're beating teams around or below them. If he keeps them up it will be decision vindicated. If he keeps them up, it will hardly be his doing. Practically 90% of the season has elapsed, a new manager is hardly likely to change things. Mind you if he was appointed earlier in the season and he did keep them up, perhaps they would offer him a contract extension, though Sam doesn't normally spend long at clubs. It's interesting how results have improved since Roy Hodgson took over at Crystal Palace, wonder if he will be offered to stay beyond this season, though he's getting rather old!
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Post by greenboy on May 2, 2023 17:13:26 GMT
If he keeps them up it will be decision vindicated. If he keeps them up, it will hardly be his doing. Practically 90% of the season has elapsed, a new manager is hardly likely to change things. Mind you if he was appointed earlier in the season and he did keep them up, perhaps they would offer him a contract extension, though Sam doesn't normally spend long at clubs. It's interesting how results have improved since Roy Hodgson took over at Crystal Palace, wonder if he will be offered to stay beyond this season, though he's getting rather old! Whilst it is a bit late in the day with just four games left but having taken just one point from the last five games I guess the club felt that they had to do something and are probably hoping he can do something similar to what Roy Hodgson has achieved at Crystal Palace.
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