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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 5, 2021 17:23:18 GMT
Presumably track maintenance? No, Dstock7080's answer makes more sense So Network Rail not allowing it because it goes on their infrastructure is a more valid answer than Network Rail not allowing it due to track maintenance on their infrastructure?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 5, 2021 18:30:06 GMT
So Network Rail not allowing it because it goes on their infrastructure is a more valid answer than Network Rail not allowing it due to track maintenance on their infrastructure? Yes it is
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Post by mkay315 on Nov 6, 2021 7:04:56 GMT
So Network Rail not allowing it because it goes on their infrastructure is a more valid answer than Network Rail not allowing it due to track maintenance on their infrastructure? Yes it is And also going off topic if the Elizabeth line was to gain a night service I wouldn't be surprised if it went between Paddington and Abbey Wood only as that section is TFL maintained. The only national rail line (that I know of) that runs 24/7 is the Thameslink line between Bedford and Three Bridges.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 8, 2021 13:01:38 GMT
Why only up to New Cross Gate? Surely it would be more beneficial if it went to Crystal Palace/Clapham Junction or even West Croydon? I guess as that is where the traditional East London Line was. IIRC the section between Dalston and Highbury and Islington has been transferred over to LUL/TfL so can also be classed as the East London Line.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 11, 2021 18:21:06 GMT
Remember that the TfL core is still signalled by Network Rail at New Cross Gate signal box, so there's still staff who need to be paid to manage it.
3tph on Thameslink operates overnight fast to London Bridge/East Croydon on the fast lines on weeknights and diverted via Herne Hill at weekends.
However LO services usually run to West Croydon on New Year's Eve until around 0330.
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 13, 2021 13:20:35 GMT
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 16, 2021 7:40:40 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 16, 2021 7:49:54 GMT
A rare example of forethought by TfL, so hard to find these days.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 16, 2021 8:28:43 GMT
A rare example of forethought by TfL, so hard to find these days. Passive Provision isn't that rare. Dalston Junction has been constructed in such a way that the Eastern Curve (towards Stratford) could be reinstated in the future, although there are no current plans to do so.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 16, 2021 11:19:01 GMT
A rare example of forethought by TfL, so hard to find these days. Passive Provision isn't that rare. Dalston Junction has been constructed in such a way that the Eastern Curve (towards Stratford) could be reinstated in the future, although there are no current plans to do so. I am sure as part of Dalston Kingsland regeneration project they want to build upon that eastern curve. Some of it is a path at present, but after this if it goes ahead, it would be impossible to have an eastern curve again.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 16, 2021 12:12:05 GMT
A rare example of forethought by TfL, so hard to find these days. Exactly, especially when TfL couldn’t care less about providing an Overground station in Brixton. They have ownership of the land to do so but would rather allow Lambeth council to approve a tower complex that every local person is against
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 16, 2021 12:24:35 GMT
A rare example of forethought by TfL, so hard to find these days. Exactly, especially when TfL couldn’t care less about providing an Overground station in Brixton. They have ownership of the land to do so but would rather allow Lambeth council to approve a tower complex that every local person is against Brixton will probably cause capacity issues on their 5 car poxy trains ... so want the problem to go away. As previously stated ELL is a waste of mainline train slots.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 16, 2021 14:06:49 GMT
Exactly, especially when TfL couldn’t care less about providing an Overground station in Brixton. They have ownership of the land to do so but would rather allow Lambeth council to approve a tower complex that every local person is against Brixton will probably cause capacity issues on their 5 car poxy trains ... so want the problem to go away. As previously stated ELL is a waste of mainline train slots. If that was the case, they wouldn't of continued investigating and buying land for a new station for the Overground, don't think 5 car trains will cause any capacity issue at Brixton at all. Say what you want about the East London Line but it's easily been a success.
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 16, 2021 14:10:14 GMT
Brixton will probably cause capacity issues on their 5 car poxy trains ... so want the problem to go away. As previously stated ELL is a waste of mainline train slots. If that was the case, they wouldn't of continued investigating and buying land for a new station for the Overground, don't think 5 car trains will cause any capacity issue at Brixton at all. Say what you want about the East London Line but it's easily been a success. Depends on your criteria for success ... 10 or 12 coach trains would have been better. No just talking about Brixton, how busy are those trains when they go past it, and when they reach the major traffic objectives? The South London leg was uncomfortably rammed in peaks in as much as people couldn't get on the stupidly short trains.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 16, 2021 14:13:10 GMT
If that was the case, they wouldn't of continued investigating and buying land for a new station for the Overground, don't think 5 car trains will cause any capacity issue at Brixton at all. Say what you want about the East London Line but it's easily been a success. Depends on your criteria for success ... 10 or 12 coach trains would have been better. The criteria being are people using it which is an overwhelming yes - of course 10 or 12 trains would be better but that aspect has no bearing on something being successful or not.
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