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Post by SILENCED on Nov 16, 2021 14:17:32 GMT
Depends on your criteria for success ... 10 or 12 coach trains would have been better. The criteria being are people using it which is an overwhelming yes - of course 10 or 12 trains would be better but that aspect has no bearing on something being successful or not. People are using it as they took superior services aways. If that is your criteria for success, you are far easier pleased than I would have expected. You are normally a champion for maintaining links ... 1000's of journeies were effected. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 16, 2021 15:28:51 GMT
The criteria being are people using it which is an overwhelming yes - of course 10 or 12 trains would be better but that aspect has no bearing on something being successful or not. People are using it as they took superior services aways. If that is your criteria for success, you are far easier pleased than I would have expected. You are normally a champion for maintaining links ... 1000's of journeies were effected. Others on here who used the lines before and after mostly say it's been a success and if it wasn't successful, people would of voted with their feet so who am I to tell them otherwise or would you rather I behave that way and tell them they have no clue what they're on about regardless? |
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Nov 23, 2021 23:02:40 GMT
If that was the case, they wouldn't of continued investigating and buying land for a new station for the Overground, don't think 5 car trains will cause any capacity issue at Brixton at all. Say what you want about the East London Line but it's easily been a success. Depends on your criteria for success ... 10 or 12 coach trains would have been better. No just talking about Brixton, how busy are those trains when they go past it, and when they reach the major traffic objectives? The South London leg was uncomfortably rammed in peaks in as much as people couldn't get on the stupidly short trains. "Uncomfortably rammed" was those two car 456s which used to run on the SLL every 30 mins before the Overground replaced the Southern London Bridge to Victoria shuttle. You may still have to stand on the ELL replacement, but there's a lot more capacity than before. Ideally the Clapham branch should have 6tph to reduce standing in peaks. |
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 8, 2022 13:26:38 GMT
Lewisham Council has given the go-ahead for a large housing development next to the site of the proposed Surrey Canal Road station. The Council gave planning permission for the station to be built last December, with the requirement that work starts by December 2024. Passive provision for the station at Surrey Canal Road was incorporated into the new link line between Queens Road Peckham and Surrey Quays. The link opened as part of phase 2 of the East London Line Extension in December 2012, when services to Clapham Junction commenced. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/housing-development-next-to-planned-overground-station-gets-approved-51417/ |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 1, 2022 9:50:31 GMT
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Post by ADH45258 on Mar 3, 2022 13:17:36 GMT
With the East London line having transferred from the Underground to Overground network, and switching between the relevant train types:
How different are the S-stock to metro-style trains elsewhere on the national rail network? The S-stock and Class 378 were introduced at a similar time, and both in part replaced the A-stock.
I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc?
While the 378s are based on the existing Electrostar design (especially the 376s), the S-stock was custom made for London - could this have been extended to the Overground too, perhaps with an S4 or S5 variant made? Or vice versa, with 378/710-style trains used on the sub surface lines?
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Post by richard on Mar 3, 2022 14:59:18 GMT
With the East London line having transferred from the Underground to Overground network, and switching between the relevant train types: How different are the S-stock to metro-style trains elsewhere on the national rail network? The S-stock and Class 378 were introduced at a similar time, and both in part replaced the A-stock. I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc? While the 378s are based on the existing Electrostar design (especially the 376s), the S-stock was custom made for London - could this have been extended to the Overground too, perhaps with an S4 or S5 variant made? Or vice versa, with 378/710-style trains used on the sub surface lines? If the East London Line was still part of LUL they would have ordered more S stocks |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Mar 5, 2022 6:14:04 GMT
With the East London line having transferred from the Underground to Overground network, and switching between the relevant train types: How different are the S-stock to metro-style trains elsewhere on the national rail network? The S-stock and Class 378 were introduced at a similar time, and both in part replaced the A-stock. I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc? While the 378s are based on the existing Electrostar design (especially the 376s), the S-stock was custom made for London - could this have been extended to the Overground too, perhaps with an S4 or S5 variant made? Or vice versa, with 378/710-style trains used on the sub surface lines? I notice that 378/710 and S7 (Circle, District and H&C Lines) have all seats facing sideways, but S8 (Metropolitan Line) have some seats front/rear facing. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 12, 2022 0:55:10 GMT
With the East London line having transferred from the Underground to Overground network, and switching between the relevant train types: How different are the S-stock to metro-style trains elsewhere on the national rail network? The S-stock and Class 378 were introduced at a similar time, and both in part replaced the A-stock. I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc? While the 378s are based on the existing Electrostar design (especially the 376s), the S-stock was custom made for London - could this have been extended to the Overground too, perhaps with an S4 or S5 variant made? Or vice versa, with 378/710-style trains used on the sub surface lines? I notice that 378/710 and S7 (Circle, District and H&C Lines) have all seats facing sideways, but S8 (Metropolitan Line) have some seats front/rear facing. I think there is one Metropolitan line train that may be a S7 as it has all side facing seats. |
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Post by richard on Mar 12, 2022 1:05:29 GMT
I notice that 378/710 and S7 (Circle, District and H&C Lines) have all seats facing sideways, but S8 (Metropolitan Line) have some seats front/rear facing. I think there is one Metropolitan line train that may be a S7 as it has all side facing seats. That's correct it's an S7+1 I can't remember wich one it is though. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 12, 2022 6:13:33 GMT
I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc? S Stock have smaller wheels and a lower floor height to better match the Underground’s platforms. Very noticeable at Richmond seeing S7 and 378/10 serving the same platform. That's correct it's an S7+1 I can't remember wich one it is though. 21323/24 |
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 17, 2022 20:54:00 GMT
This weekend will the Overground serve Battersea Park? It's closed between Wandsworth Road and Clapham Junction but the weekly TFL email doesn't say that it instead advising passengers to use Southern services however on NYE it did say that Overground trains will serve Battersea Park
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Post by kmkcheng on Mar 17, 2022 21:29:57 GMT
This weekend will the Overground serve Battersea Park? It's closed between Wandsworth Road and Clapham Junction but the weekly TFL email doesn't say that it instead advising passengers to use Southern services however on NYE it did say that Overground trains will serve Battersea Park Yes it will be diverted to Battersea Park. The engineering work is Sunday only so not on Saturday |
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Post by Busboy105 on Mar 18, 2022 7:22:52 GMT
This weekend will the Overground serve Battersea Park? It's closed between Wandsworth Road and Clapham Junction but the weekly TFL email doesn't say that it instead advising passengers to use Southern services however on NYE it did say that Overground trains will serve Battersea Park Yes it will be diverted to Battersea Park. The engineering work is Sunday only so not on Saturday OK thanks for the help |
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Post by mkay315 on Mar 18, 2022 8:10:46 GMT
I wonder if it would have been possible to instead have a single type of train designed for both the Overground and Sub-surface lines - though with variations in number of cars etc? S Stock have smaller wheels and a lower floor height to better match the Underground’s platforms. Very noticeable at Richmond seeing S7 and 378/10 serving the same platform. That's correct it's an S7+1 I can't remember wich one it is though. 21323/24 Doesn't that also have the cab number 25386 attached to it as well which caused the 21386 unit to have 23386 as it's replacement. |
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