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Post by greenboy on Apr 6, 2022 11:20:08 GMT
I often use the SWR Waterloo to Exeter service and I find it much better, and cheaper, than the GWR service. Obviously it takes longer but not that much if travelling from south of London as it saves the trek to Paddington. That's why I want to reintroduce the SWR London-Bristol service, as a more regional version of the GWR's services, much like Greater Anglia's London-Cambridge service. There was a lot of opposition to the Waterloo to Bristol service being withdrawn, it's so much easier for people travelling from south of London to use Waterloo or Clapham Junction rather than Paddington, although SWR will say it allows for better rolling stock utilisation elsewhere. The GWR services from Brighton are being withdrawn in May.
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Post by someone on Apr 6, 2022 20:05:40 GMT
That's why I want to reintroduce the SWR London-Bristol service, as a more regional version of the GWR's services, much like Greater Anglia's London-Cambridge service. There was a lot of opposition to the Waterloo to Bristol service being withdrawn, it's so much easier for people travelling from south of London to use Waterloo or Clapham Junction rather than Paddington, although SWR will say it allows for better rolling stock utilisation elsewhere. The GWR services from Brighton are being withdrawn in May. Yeah, I heard. It's a huge shame about the withdrawal of GWR Great Malvern to Brighton limited services being withdrawn, and maybe SWR could purchase some 158s from EMR once they fully operate 170s.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 6, 2022 22:00:05 GMT
There was a lot of opposition to the Waterloo to Bristol service being withdrawn, it's so much easier for people travelling from south of London to use Waterloo or Clapham Junction rather than Paddington, although SWR will say it allows for better rolling stock utilisation elsewhere. The GWR services from Brighton are being withdrawn in May. Yeah, I heard. It's a huge shame about the withdrawal of GWR Great Malvern to Brighton limited services being withdrawn, and maybe SWR could purchase some 158s from EMR once they fully operate 170s. They’re not being fully withdrawn entirely, just between Brighton & Chichester.
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Post by someone on Apr 7, 2022 12:14:00 GMT
Yeah, I heard. It's a huge shame about the withdrawal of GWR Great Malvern to Brighton limited services being withdrawn, and maybe SWR could purchase some 158s from EMR once they fully operate 170s. They’re not being fully withdrawn entirely, just between Brighton & Chichester. It's better than I thought, but I don't think that Chichester is entirely up to the job of acting as a terminus.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Apr 8, 2022 21:43:37 GMT
SOUTHERN:
Extend the current 2tph London Bridge to East Croydon stopper service via Forest Hill to Charing Cross, restoring a link to Charing Cross lost since 2009. Reinstate the 2tph London Bridge to Victoria service via Crystal Palace on weekdays. The Gatwick Express branded services to Brighton would additionally stop at East Croydon but not at Clapham Junction.
LONDON OVERGROUND:
An extra 2tph between Dalston Junction and Crystal Palace and Dalston Junction to Clapham Junction. (West Croydon isn't currently an option until the East Croydon improvement works are implemented.)
SOUTHEASTERN:
2tph: Cannon Street to Bromley South via Lewisham and Catford Bridge. This would give 6tph to Ladywell, Catford Bridge, Lower Sydenham and New Beckenham with new connections to Beckenham Junction, Shortlands and Bromley South using the slots for the current 2tph Victoria to Bromley South stoppers.
The current 2tph Bromley South terminators would go to Swanley.
THAMESLINK:
The Rainham services would also call at Belvedere and Erith, reinstating a 6tph service between Deptford and Charlton to those stations further down the Greenwich line.
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Post by Dillon95 on Apr 8, 2022 22:58:48 GMT
SOUTHERN: Extend the current 2tph London Bridge to East Croydon stopper service via Forest Hill to Charing Cross, restoring a link to Charing Cross lost since 2009. Reinstate the 2tph London Bridge to Victoria service via Crystal Palace on weekdays. The Gatwick Express branded services to Brighton would additionally stop at East Croydon but not at Clapham Junction. LONDON OVERGROUND: An extra 2tph between Dalston Junction and Crystal Palace and Dalston Junction to Clapham Junction. (West Croydon isn't currently an option until the East Croydon improvement works are implemented.) SOUTHEASTERN: 2tph: Cannon Street to Bromley South via Lewisham and Catford Bridge. This would give 6tph to Ladywell, Catford Bridge, Lower Sydenham and New Beckenham with new connections to Beckenham Junction, Shortlands and Bromley South using the slots for the current 2tph Victoria to Bromley South stoppers. The current 2tph Bromley South terminators would go to Swanley. THAMESLINK: The Rainham services would also call at Belvedere and Erith, reinstating a 6tph service between Deptford and Charlton to those stations further down the Greenwich line. The Victoria to Bromley South via Herne Hill services that don’t continue to Orpington should definitely be extended to Swanley.
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Post by route53 on Apr 26, 2022 9:44:58 GMT
THAMESLINK: The Rainham services would also call at Belvedere and Erith, reinstating a 6tph service between Deptford and Charlton to those stations further down the Greenwich line. Belvedere and Erith still have 6tph, they have 4tph to Cannon Street via Greenwich and 2tph to Charing Cross via Lewisham, the Thameslink doesn’t need any more stops added it’s slow enough already.
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Post by someone on Apr 28, 2022 17:57:53 GMT
THAMESLINK: The Rainham services would also call at Belvedere and Erith, reinstating a 6tph service between Deptford and Charlton to those stations further down the Greenwich line. Belvedere and Erith still have 6tph, they have 4tph to Cannon Street via Greenwich and 2tph to Charing Cross via Lewisham, the Thameslink doesn’t need any more stops added it’s slow enough already. Maybe also cut the service back to Chatham?
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Post by greenboy on Apr 28, 2022 18:25:13 GMT
Belvedere and Erith still have 6tph, they have 4tph to Cannon Street via Greenwich and 2tph to Charing Cross via Lewisham, the Thameslink doesn’t need any more stops added it’s slow enough already. Maybe also cut the service back to Chatham? Do you mean Gillingham? No turnaround facilities at Chatham. An additional platform was put in at Rainham for Thameslink so I don't think it will be cut.
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Post by route53 on Apr 28, 2022 18:51:51 GMT
Belvedere and Erith still have 6tph, they have 4tph to Cannon Street via Greenwich and 2tph to Charing Cross via Lewisham, the Thameslink doesn’t need any more stops added it’s slow enough already. Maybe also cut the service back to Chatham? Just cut Thameslink entirely in my opinion, it’s not needed and it’s utterly useless, has too many stations and it’s proven to be unreliable, especially since that will be Medway’s only connection to CrossRail, if Thameslink has one of its many failures it’ll cause disruption for those travel to and from CrossRail to Gravesend and Medway
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Post by Dillon95 on Apr 28, 2022 20:02:47 GMT
Maybe also cut the service back to Chatham? Just cut Thameslink entirely in my opinion, it’s not needed and it’s utterly useless, has too many stations and it’s proven to be unreliable, especially since that will be Medway’s only connection to CrossRail, if Thameslink has one of its many failures it’ll cause disruption for those travel to and from CrossRail to Gravesend and Medway It’s too long to be a metro stopper service and it stops at too many stations to be a long distance service. It can’t be both. If they want Thameslink to be a metro stopper it shouldn’t go further than Dartford or maybe Gravesend, and St Albans should be the northern end point. It should stop at all stations via Greenwich & Woolwich Arsenal. If it is to be a Luton to Rainham long distance service, then between London Bridge and Dartford it should only stop at Woolwich Arsenal and Abbey Wood.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 29, 2022 6:10:22 GMT
Just cut Thameslink entirely in my opinion, it’s not needed and it’s utterly useless, has too many stations and it’s proven to be unreliable, especially since that will be Medway’s only connection to CrossRail, if Thameslink has one of its many failures it’ll cause disruption for those travel to and from CrossRail to Gravesend and Medway It’s too long to be a metro stopper service and it stops at too many stations to be a long distance service. It can’t be both. If they want Thameslink to be a metro stopper it shouldn’t go further than Dartford or maybe Gravesend, and St Albans should be the northern end point. It should stop at all stations via Greenwich & Woolwich Arsenal. If it is to be a Luton to Rainham long distance service, then between London Bridge and Dartford it should only stop at Woolwich Arsenal and Abbey Wood. I would suggest all stations from Luton to Dartford with the Southeastern Charing Cross to Dartford via Lewisham and Woolwich Arsenal service extended to Rainham. Journey times would still be much the same but the Medway Towns service would no longer be disrupted by any problems on the Thameslink network.
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Post by Dillon95 on Apr 29, 2022 8:46:16 GMT
Do people in Luton really need to get to the Medway Towns that badly? Enough to need a direct service? I’d scrap Thameslink from the area completely and just stick to Southeastern. 2tph - Cannon Street to Rainham - Semi Fast via Woolwich Arsenal Calling at London Bridge, Woolwich Arsenal, Abbey Wood, Dartford, Stone Crossing, Greenhithe, Swanscombe, Northfleet, Gravesend, Higham, Strood, Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham & Rainham.
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Post by route53 on Apr 29, 2022 9:28:10 GMT
Do people in Luton really need to get to the Medway Towns that badly? Enough to need a direct service? I’d scrap Thameslink from the area completely and just stick to Southeastern. 2tph - Cannon Street to Rainham - Semi Fast via Woolwich Arsenal Calling at London Bridge, Woolwich Arsenal, Abbey Wood, Dartford, Stone Crossing, Greenhithe, Swanscombe, Northfleet, Gravesend, Higham, Strood, Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham & Rainham. It undoes the billions spent on separating tracks on the approach to London Bridge, so I agree, get rid. I would have it run it’s original route from Charing Cross, then after London Bridge it would call at Lewisham, Blackheath, Woolwich Arsenal, Abbey Wood, Dartford, Greenhithe, Gravesend then down to Rainham and have a separate Cannon Street service do the all stations via Greenwich to Gravesend
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Post by route53 on Apr 29, 2022 9:29:34 GMT
Just cut Thameslink entirely in my opinion, it’s not needed and it’s utterly useless, has too many stations and it’s proven to be unreliable, especially since that will be Medway’s only connection to CrossRail, if Thameslink has one of its many failures it’ll cause disruption for those travel to and from CrossRail to Gravesend and Medway It’s too long to be a metro stopper service and it stops at too many stations to be a long distance service. It can’t be both. If they want Thameslink to be a metro stopper it shouldn’t go further than Dartford or maybe Gravesend, and St Albans should be the northern end point. It should stop at all stations via Greenwich & Woolwich Arsenal. If it is to be a Luton to Rainham long distance service, then between London Bridge and Dartford it should only stop at Woolwich Arsenal and Abbey Wood. This is Thameslink’s trouble, mixing all stop services with fast services, it should be one or the other
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