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Post by wirewiper on Sept 27, 2021 17:42:39 GMT
There was no shortage until the media highlighted a few garages running out of fuel and making a national crisis. There was not a problem two weeks ago, and there would be no problem now if it was not for the frenzie created by the media ... and the toilet roll hogging nature of the British public. If people had stuck to their normal buying patterns there would not be any issues. I despair of the behaviour of the British public ... Shameful I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. The RHA (Road Haulage Association) has denied being responsible for any leak, although it does have a notably spiky relationship with the Government. From The Guardian Online today: "The transport secretary, Grant Shapps, said the panic was sparked after comments made by BP about dwindling stock levels at a Cabinet Office meeting were leaked by “one of the road haulage associations”. And in case there was any ambiguity, sources briefed the Mail on Sunday that the RHA was “entirely responsible for this panic and chaos”.
The RHA says the allegation is false. Rod McKenzie, the RHA’s policy and public affairs director, who was branded a “moaning remainer” by the unnamed source, did not attend the meeting and said he was only made aware of BP’s warning on its forecourt fuel stocks by media inquiries after the comments were reported on television.
McKenzie told the Guardian: “It was already in the public domain. I said every time I was asked there is not a shortage of fuel. It’s just ridiculous, accusing me of causing people to panic-buy. It’s not fair.” "The full article: www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/27/haulage-grant-shapps-petrol-panic-transport-fuel-shortage |
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Post by greenboy on Sept 27, 2021 17:47:55 GMT
There was no shortage until the media highlighted a few garages running out of fuel and making a national crisis. There was not a problem two weeks ago, and there would be no problem now if it was not for the frenzie created by the media ... and the toilet roll hogging nature of the British public. If people had stuck to their normal buying patterns there would not be any issues. I despair of the behaviour of the British public ... Shameful I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. Reporting news yes, grossly exaggerating and blatantly scaremongering no. What back up plan could the government have had? If people go out en masse to buy fuel I don't see what any government can do about it. The RHA seem to be denying any wrong doing. |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 27, 2021 17:50:33 GMT
I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. Reporting news yes, grossly exaggerating and blatantly scaremongering no. What back up plan could the government have had? If people go out en masse to buy fuel I don't see what any government can do about it. The RHA seem to be denying any wrong doing. Not seem to be, they have denied any leak to the press - see my post above yours. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 27, 2021 18:06:51 GMT
There was no shortage until the media highlighted a few garages running out of fuel and making a national crisis. There was not a problem two weeks ago, and there would be no problem now if it was not for the frenzie created by the media ... and the toilet roll hogging nature of the British public. If people had stuck to their normal buying patterns there would not be any issues. I despair of the behaviour of the British public ... Shameful I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. There is a clear difference between facts and hyperbole. The fact remains that the government and ministers had to put out a message to say there was no fuel shortage because of the media equating a few, less than 1%, of petrol stations closed with mass panic across the entire country. They did the same with COVID equating it with instant death which in essence was the root of lockdowns across the world and they did the same with groceries worldwide. I am in no way saying we wouldn’t have locked down but it was fuelled by the media causing terror, fear and panic across nation after nation. It’s just clickbait mixed in with a few facts. |
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Post by WH241 on Sept 27, 2021 21:08:24 GMT
Another U-turn from the government! The army are on standby and starting training to deliver fuel.
I think this is going to go on for some time yet.
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Post by ronnie on Sept 27, 2021 21:54:41 GMT
Another U-turn from the government! The army are on standby and starting training to deliver fuel. I think this is going to go on for some time yet. Agree with you, this is going to last a while given this announcement Time to set the alarm really early am |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 27, 2021 23:02:31 GMT
Most garages in North London are as empty as Spurs trophy cabinet  I've got 3 quarter of a tank in the van and have been driving like a bus driver running early  Hopefully the deliveries start soon, they should get out there tonight to stop these morons who are panic buying. It's the toilet roll and pasta brigade who set this nonsense off |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 16:32:32 GMT
Police had to inform passengers that there was a queue at the petrol station at the junction of Fulham Palace Road and Lillie Road because some clearly did not get the message.
The BP petrol station in Perivale has now run out of fuel. Only good thing is that this will relieve traffic on the westbound carriageway of the A40.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2021 1:23:26 GMT
Because of the rather limited amount of petrol stations in east London it's becoming a game of cat and mouse to get fuel. People that filled up Friday and over the weekend will start to run low and more than likely end up first in the queue when a garage has fuel meanwhile others are having to take cars off the road. It has been made worse as in the past 30 years the amount of petrol stations shut is staggering. A major infliction happened in 15 years when many were sold of to property developers. The supermarket petrol station was the first major killer to many other during the 1990's and early 2000's End result is certain parts of Newham, Hackney, Watlham Forest hardly have any petrol stations. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2021 1:31:26 GMT
Basically saying the British public is as thick as horse shite. Or the British public realising once again that the current Government is in denial that there is a problem developing, despite clear evidence that the supply chain is breaking down in other areas; and has no response to it, so leaving them to take matters into their own hands. A government with a grip would acknowledge the crisis and bring in measures that ensure that supplies for emergency services and public transport are secured. The shortage of lorry drivers has been chronic for years and has been so exacerbated by Covid and Brexit that it hasn't taken much to tip the entire supply chain into crisis. I couldn't even blame the government on this. Just the general public are stupid to put it blunt. We as a society have encouraged it with constant snowflake type lifestyle. Many people just lack basic common sense unfortunately. I have quarter tank over a week ago, I had no intention to rush to the pumps and be a sheep. My local petrol station which has fuel over the past 3 days never had a massive line and on average had around 8 cars/vans. It normally is very quiet. I would not be publicising it, or I would probably see a queue as long as the M25 next day |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2021 1:34:13 GMT
I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. There is a clear difference between facts and hyperbole. The fact remains that the government and ministers had to put out a message to say there was no fuel shortage because of the media equating a few, less than 1%, of petrol stations closed with mass panic across the entire country. They did the same with COVID equating it with instant death which in essence was the root of lockdowns across the world and they did the same with groceries worldwide. I am in no way saying we wouldn’t have locked down but it was fuelled by the media causing terror, fear and panic across nation after nation. It’s just clickbait mixed in with a few facts. spot on, the usual swipe left click bait articles designed to draw you in. Many of these are tailored by Google analytics and Apple and is purely for hit and shares. not to mention keep the advertisers happy you are skimming past their ads. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2021 1:37:05 GMT
There was no shortage until the media highlighted a few garages running out of fuel and making a national crisis. There was not a problem two weeks ago, and there would be no problem now if it was not for the frenzie created by the media ... and the toilet roll hogging nature of the British public. If people had stuck to their normal buying patterns there would not be any issues. I despair of the behaviour of the British public ... Shameful I don’t blame the media for reporting the news they receive. That’s their job. The reporting was nuanced and quantified how many stations had closed, but once it was clear the government didn’t have a back up plan or any control over the supply issue and they instructed people on fuel use telling people not to panic….guess what will happen? Blame should be shouldered by the Road Haulage Association who leaked meeting contents to the press about a petrol stations closing in what looks like a clumsy attempt at pressuring the government to add HGV drivers to the occupational shortage list. I would not say it was a clumsy attempt, more tactical. It is a shame a lot of it is down to the shear greed of these major co-operations. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2021 13:59:20 GMT
A government minister said today the the situation around the petrol station crisis is under control though it doesn't seem to tally up with anyone's experiences it seems across social media with drivers wanting petrol or even merely stuck in the jams that come from the queues commenting it hasn't changed.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 30, 2021 14:07:15 GMT
A government minister said today the the situation around the petrol station crisis is under control though it doesn't seem to tally up with anyone's experiences it seems across social media with drivers wanting petrol or even merely stuck in the jams that come from the queues commenting it hasn't changed. What else can he say? You need calmness and sense to return, not cause more panic |
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Post by Paul on Sept 30, 2021 14:40:04 GMT
A government minister said today the the situation around the petrol station crisis is under control though it doesn't seem to tally up with anyone's experiences it seems across social media with drivers wanting petrol or even merely stuck in the jams that come from the queues commenting it hasn't changed. Certainly last night the queues at Biggin Hill and Westerham were vastly reduced although today, the queue at Chipperfield Road in St Paul’s Cray is as bad as I’ve ever seen it. The issue now is that the sensible ones who didn’t panic buy are finding themselves in need of fuel and the idiots who filled up jerry cans, water bottles, bins and plastic bags (!) have left forecourts genuinely short |
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I've got 3 quarter of a tank in the van and have been driving like a bus driver running early 
