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Post by wirewiper on Apr 24, 2023 12:29:57 GMT
To think I even said this back in 2021 this would happen Regarding moving Canary Wharf into Zone 1 it would be absurd because you have to move everywhere west of it into Zone 1 too. Even the current Zone 2/3 around Stratford isn't a great idea. Sadiq Khan can't really expand ULEZ to the M25 because those areas fall in other counties It would be no different to Shoreditch High Street, every journey that starts, finishes or passes through Canary Wharf is charged at Zone 1 rates. No need to move anything else into Zone 1. So for example, a journey from Canning Town (zone 2) to Bermondsey (zone 2) would be charged at Zone 1 & 2 rate. As would a journey from Shadwell to Lewisham on the DLR.
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Post by northlondon83 on Apr 24, 2023 12:33:06 GMT
Regarding moving Canary Wharf into Zone 1 it would be absurd because you have to move everywhere west of it into Zone 1 too. Even the current Zone 2/3 around Stratford isn't a great idea. Sadiq Khan can't really expand ULEZ to the M25 because those areas fall in other counties It would be no different to Shoreditch High Street, every journey that starts, finishes or passes through Canary Wharf is charged at Zone 1 rates. No need to move anything else into Zone 1. So for example, a journey from Canning Town (zone 2) to Bermondsey (zone 2) would be charged at Zone 1 & 2 rate. As would a journey from Shadwell to Lewisham on the DLR. But the idea is still absurd because no one will benefit from higher fares and it's not even anywhere near central London. Shoreditch High Street although the next station either side is either in Zone 2 or Zone 1/2 it is within walking distance of Liverpool Street in Zone 1
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 24, 2023 17:09:54 GMT
Regarding moving Canary Wharf into Zone 1 it would be absurd because you have to move everywhere west of it into Zone 1 too. Even the current Zone 2/3 around Stratford isn't a great idea. Sadiq Khan can't really expand ULEZ to the M25 because those areas fall in other counties It would be no different to Shoreditch High Street, every journey that starts, finishes or passes through Canary Wharf is charged at Zone 1 rates. No need to move anything else into Zone 1. So for example, a journey from Canning Town (zone 2) to Bermondsey (zone 2) would be charged at Zone 1 & 2 rate. As would a journey from Shadwell to Lewisham on the DLR. That is ridiculous, and they wonder why people are deserting public transport. Not because there are wealthy people using Canary Wharf means it should now be zone 1. It is a farce. So someone travelling Between Lewisham and Bow Church must now be penalised, just because it hits Canary Wharf station. One of the main reasons the overground became popular was because of the fares and being able to skirt around outer London, and not having to go within zone 1. Moving the goalposts putting Canary Wharf in a zone 1 bubble is laughable; just like the current mayor.
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Post by greenboy on May 3, 2023 7:45:30 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 3, 2023 23:19:17 GMT
I could see this happening. London and the surrounding counties is getting very divided. Khan is not about unity. Some of the outer London councils are now more than ever wanting to be devolved away from Greater London Authority and join other neighbouring County Councils. The way things are going give it 20 years time, I can see many of the outer London boroughs being separated from Greater London. As for the below article, I cannot see them winning this, but it is going to be the start of a never ending way to get out of Greater London Give ministers power to overturn ULEZ expansion, says Tory MPFormer Cabinet minister launches bill to allow ministers to intervene over proposed ULEZ expansionwww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gp52zqxnvo
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Post by YX10FFN on May 4, 2023 0:18:45 GMT
I could see this happening. London and the surrounding counties is getting very divided. Khan is not about unity. Some of the outer London councils are now more than ever wanting to be devolved away from Greater London Authority and join other neighbouring County Councils. The way things are going give it 20 years time, I can see many of the outer London boroughs being separated from Greater London. As for the below article, I cannot see them winning this, but it is going to be the start of a never ending way to get out of Greater London Give ministers power to overturn ULEZ expansion, says Tory MPFormer Cabinet minister launches bill to allow ministers to intervene over proposed ULEZ expansionwww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gp52zqxnvoIf they join county councils, does that mean TFL no longer has an obligation to serve those areas? Once the cheap, turn up and go bus service goes out the window I think most would back away from that idea.
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Post by vjaska on May 4, 2023 3:27:12 GMT
I could see this happening. London and the surrounding counties is getting very divided. Khan is not about unity. Some of the outer London councils are now more than ever wanting to be devolved away from Greater London Authority and join other neighbouring County Councils. The way things are going give it 20 years time, I can see many of the outer London boroughs being separated from Greater London. As for the below article, I cannot see them winning this, but it is going to be the start of a never ending way to get out of Greater London Give ministers power to overturn ULEZ expansion, says Tory MPFormer Cabinet minister launches bill to allow ministers to intervene over proposed ULEZ expansionwww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gp52zqxnvoIf they join county councils, does that mean TFL no longer has an obligation to serve those areas? Once the cheap, turn up and go bus service goes out the window I think most would back away from that idea. They would lose so many benefits if they decided to join up with home counties authorities - see Havering and why, when a local MP (believe it was Andrew Rosindell) wanted the borough to join Essex a few years ago, most people profoundly objected to it because of the things they would lose as a result. The way I see it is let them make their bed if that's what they end up deciding and hopefully, more money gets shared to those who remain part of London
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Post by borneobus on May 4, 2023 7:05:07 GMT
If they join county councils, does that mean TFL no longer has an obligation to serve those areas? Once the cheap, turn up and go bus service goes out the window I think most would back away from that idea. They would lose so many benefits if they decided to join up with home counties authorities - see Havering and why, when a local MP (believe it was Andrew Rosindell) wanted the borough to join Essex a few years ago, most people profoundly objected to it because of the things they would lose as a result. The way I see it is let them make their bed if that's what they end up deciding and hopefully, more money gets shared to those who remain part of London A hypothetical question to bus users resident in London Boroughs considering a breakaway from London... "Do you think post breakaway your bus services including the cost to use will a) Improve b) Remain the same c) Deteriorate"
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Post by greenboy on May 13, 2023 17:43:18 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 28, 2023 14:56:40 GMT
ULEZ: Labour MPs in London call for ULEZ scrappage scheme reviewTwo London Labour MPs have urged Sadiq Khan to review the £110m scrappage scheme for the expansion of the ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ).www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65732560
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Post by WH241 on Jun 1, 2023 16:42:45 GMT
More Londoners to get ULEZ financial help, says mayor's office
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 30, 2023 11:37:29 GMT
ULEZ claim not supported by public data - UK Statistics AuthorityThe mayor of London's claim that 90% of vehicles in outer London meet Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) standards is not supported by publicly available data, the UK Statistics Authority says.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66060758
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 30, 2023 11:51:46 GMT
ULEZ claim not supported by public data - UK Statistics AuthorityThe mayor of London's claim that 90% of vehicles in outer London meet Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) standards is not supported by publicly available data, the UK Statistics Authority says.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66060758 TfL and GLA are terrible at cherry picking stats to provide misleading headlines.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 4, 2023 11:21:57 GMT
ULEZ expansion: Ultra-low emission zone challenge begins at High CourtA judicial review into Sadiq Khan's plans to expand London's Ultra-Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) has begun at the High Court.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66094244
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 5, 2023 14:07:34 GMT
More evidence of how inept TfL are.
In the court case about current ULEZ compliance in outer London, TfL have stayed their figures were based on evidence from 106 cameras, all either on the north or south circular, which just happens to be the border of the existing ULEZ. You kind of guessing ULEZ adherence would be quite high on the zones border, but to then state this as stats for the whole of Outer London is shameful. Not only shameful, decietful and false. Deliberate lies!
What a sham organisation TfL are. If they were instructed to provide sham statistics by the sham of a mayor, then someone should have said no, or at very least whistleblower.
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