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Post by southlondon413 on Apr 14, 2023 12:51:22 GMT
I just think there is slight hypocrisy in continually talking improving air quality and being driven around in a big hulking diesel 4x4 followed by a second 4x4, police motorbikes and other vehicles. Convert them to electric, lead by example because he just looks like a lot of other media people who talk green renewable energy but don’t lead by example. When there are examples of Tesla cars having bulletproof windows and windscreens, then by all means criticise away. But the Mayor doesn't choose what car he goes in, it's his security detail that makes the choice. How can you be sure there aren’t bulletproof Teslas out there, the owners are hardly likely to scream about the features if they want security. But realistically most cars can get upgraded, including Teslas. Besides Land Rover along with dozens of other manufacturers make EV cars, which are likely compatible for security upgrades.
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Post by enviroPB on Apr 14, 2023 21:51:19 GMT
When there are examples of Tesla cars having bulletproof windows and windscreens, then by all means criticise away. But the Mayor doesn't choose what car he goes in, it's his security detail that makes the choice. How can you be sure there aren’t bulletproof Teslas out there, the owners are hardly likely to scream about the features if they want security. But realistically most cars can get upgraded, including Teslas. Besides Land Rover along with dozens of other manufacturers make EV cars, which are likely compatible for security upgrades. Because I Googled it before I made my previous post, most articles are aligned towards answering if EVs are appropriate for security patrols rather than security detail. I am sure electric developers want to get a slice of the security pie, but most cars are marketed around weight and reinforced windows & bodywork will skewer things like battery range; things EV companies haven't conducted tests on. Tesla famously do not have bulletproof windows, but there are hybrid options for Range Rovers out there like the Evoque which can be used now. Electric versions will soon come to existence in 2024.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:08:27 GMT
May I just remind you all as well, victimising the less well off and telling everyone you shouldn’t be using your car in London to help clean the air up … All while he’s being driven around in a £400k gas guzzling V8 Range Rover. Which of course by a remarkable coincidence will be exempt from the ULEZ. This man is an utter hypocrite and I’ve never shown a major show such contempt to the people of London. I’m absolutely no Boris fan at all, but at least he used a bicycle when he was Mayor of London while encouraging people to do the same. If this absolute clown of a Mayor gets re-elected (which tbh after his ULEZ fantasy idea thankfully is now looking pretty unlikely), then London is doomed. Things like that seriously annoy me. Why on earth should MET protection service vehicles be ULEZ exempt. It really stinks hypocrisy and shows it has NOTHING to do with emissions and more is the case of one rule for them and rip joe public off as much as you can.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:18:26 GMT
I want Howard Cox to become mayor. No chance but... He is anti EV and pro car. Why would you want a pro car mayor in a city? I do not doubt a car is useful for some journeys in a city however we should really be encouraging the use of public transport.
Investment is needed in public transport to make systems like LTNs work. By making it more inconvenient for people to drive for short trips, and providing adequate alternatives outside of simply telling people to get onto a bike or walk in the form of improved public transport, then you might begin to see a reduction in the number of cars on the road. What we are seeing nowadays is main roads being choked as a result of there not being enough alternatives to make it worth getting out the car, hence why so many people complain about buses being delayed and main roads seeing significantly more throughput.
I do not know who Howard Cox is, but would rather a neutral mayor than a pathetic anti-car one that is really only doing this for reasons than to make money out of people. You are delusional if you really think LTN's etc are going to reduce cars on the road. You just do not get it, same like many in the government, they really do NOT understand people's lives. Do you really think in a modern metropolis we can all go car free etc and do all the hours God sends, have a family etc and not have a decent quality of life.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:22:48 GMT
Ride the 139 or any other major Central London route e2e and we can discuss how well progress you made on the journey. Buses is no longer a viable option in Central London with the mess they have made. Trains are the way forward but if you cannot afford then your stuck with the bus, actually quicker to walk not joking. I used to really have decent speed journeys in Central London before the crap done. What crap has been done specifically? Most of the problems in Central London lie with the sheer number of UBERs parading round London on the streets, in fact when I last used the 139 end to end from Waterloo to GG, it was around Christmas 2019 and pretty much every side street we went past an UBER was peeking out on the Central London section. That is the first problem I would try and solve relating to congestion within Central London.
There are some issues nowadays that there weren't back when the Congestion Charge was first introduced in 2003 (arguably the golden year for bus travel in London). One of the most prominent issues has been the significant increase in the number of people living in London, owing to uneven investment across the UK and London being seen as the place to "make it". The population has gone up 25% in 20 years compared to it only having increased by 9% between 1983 and 2003. The average GDP per capita in London has gone up from just shy of £34k in 2003 to £58k just before the pandemic, and an increase in the average wage from £21k to £33k. So it's clear to see that there has been an overall increase in wealth and people are now no longer seeing public transport as viable due to cuts made in public transport or it being considered too slow, hence why people are willing to splash out on an UBER or a minicab when I remember growing up minicabs were considered a luxury and you had to fork out an arm and a leg for a Hackney Carriage. We cannot have a pro car mayor to help solve issues facing public transport in London when cars are one of the main forms of congestion affecting public transport.
These UBER guys have capitalised on a market for car use as it is near on impossible to do the majority of things day in day out within a decent time from A-B, hence why UBER has thrived over the years. They have taken people AWAY from public transport. With fares going higher for trains and buses, they would be taking more and more people away from them. I do not see the buzz for UBER etc, maybe as I have a car, but would rather use a bus. But I am in a minority and people laugh at me for doing it.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:27:49 GMT
I want Howard Cox to become mayor. No chance but... He is anti EV and pro car. Howard Cox? The right-wing climate-change denier? Great idea, get him his own show on GB News whilst you're at it. Just as bad as a left wing chav, eco loony tree hugger wannabe like Khan
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:31:47 GMT
Why would you want a pro car mayor in a city? I do not doubt a car is useful for some journeys in a city however we should really be encouraging the use of public transport.
Investment is needed in public transport to make systems like LTNs work. By making it more inconvenient for people to drive for short trips, and providing adequate alternatives outside of simply telling people to get onto a bike or walk in the form of improved public transport, then you might begin to see a reduction in the number of cars on the road. What we are seeing nowadays is main roads being choked as a result of there not being enough alternatives to make it worth getting out the car, hence why so many people complain about buses being delayed and main roads seeing significantly more throughput.
Pro car is probably wrong, but pro getting London moving and not channelling traffic into stationary queues, the latter which is never good for anywhere , let alone England's Capital City. If you speed up traffic flows, you will speed up bus journies ... the speed of a bus journey is intrinsically linked to the speed of general road traffic. Slow traffic down, bus journies take longer, speed up traffic, bus journies become quicker and become a more realistic alternative. Identify bottlenecks, and come up with a solution that allows more free flow traffic. How much does it cost the UK economy having people deliberately delayed and unproductive? Then we wonder why this country is in such a mess! We live in a world where personal mobility is taken for granted. We are not going back to the 60s. Politicians need to accept this and come up with a solution that is compatible with 21st century lives, not regress back to a bygone era. On a separate issue, just waiting for the inevitable to happen and someone is killed getting off a bus directly into one of these cycle lanes. Await the authority to be prosecuted, and see what is the response! They can't say they were not warned. Well said
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 17, 2023 21:47:23 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Apr 18, 2023 17:06:59 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 19, 2023 1:27:30 GMT
Good, I do not even condone them doing it
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 19, 2023 7:07:18 GMT
People who think you don't need a car these days are either deluded or live in an area with decent links and assume this is the case for everywhere.
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Post by mkay315 on Apr 19, 2023 9:32:32 GMT
People who think you don't need a car these days are either deluded or live in an area with decent links and assume this is the case for everywhere. You ever heard the term "Crabs in a bucket". A lot of people have this thinking sense of if I can't have nice things no one else can
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Post by greenboy on Apr 23, 2023 18:47:37 GMT
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Post by mkay315 on Apr 24, 2023 10:01:42 GMT
Agreed , they are even talking now about a charge to enter London from outside the M25 and moving Canary Wharf into Zone 1 don't know how that would work . If they were to take that one step further by making every area within the M25 come under ULEZ that wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't be surprised if they revisit the congestion charge again deep in the future. To think I even said this back in 2021 this would happen
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Post by northlondon83 on Apr 24, 2023 12:15:34 GMT
If they were to take that one step further by making every area within the M25 come under ULEZ that wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't be surprised if they revisit the congestion charge again deep in the future. To think I even said this back in 2021 this would happen Regarding moving Canary Wharf into Zone 1 it would be absurd because you have to move everywhere west of it into Zone 1 too. Even the current Zone 2/3 around Stratford isn't a great idea. Sadiq Khan can't really expand ULEZ to the M25 because those areas fall in other counties
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