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Post by wirewiper on Dec 7, 2023 18:12:55 GMT
This goes beyond legitimate protest, innocent people have been put at risk of serious injury and death. It is quite right that Counter Terrorism Officers are investigating this. |
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 7, 2023 18:18:55 GMT
This goes beyond legitimate protest, innocent people have been put at risk of serious injury and death. It is quite right that Counter Terrorism Officers are investigating this. So the Mayor and TfL are inciting terrorism now ... heads should roll. |
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 7, 2023 18:43:21 GMT
This goes beyond legitimate protest, innocent people have been put at risk of serious injury and death. It is quite right that Counter Terrorism Officers are investigating this. So the Mayor and TfL are inciting terrorism now ... heads should roll. They are not inciting terrorism. Whoever did this made their own decision to endanger life and limb. |
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Post by greenboy on Dec 7, 2023 19:15:17 GMT
It seems police are keeping an open mind about the motives behind this explosion... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67653609.ampIt's been reported that no 'scamera vans' have been out in Bexley today presumably as a result of this incident? |
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Post by cardinal on Dec 7, 2023 23:22:43 GMT
The explosion is a worrying development but not actually surprising.
In general, depressingly ,there are people now allowing themselves to get so angry about policies and people in power that they are becoming extremists.
Edit - i say allowing themselves , but it’s not helped by some politicians talking abhorrent nonsense about other human beings. Appealing to deep held views amongst some around ethnicity. There is a cross over between those who despise Sadiq Khan for example and EDL types. You can oppose Khan without being racist or becoming an extremist happy to blow up street furniture risking passers by
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Post by vjaska on Dec 8, 2023 0:25:43 GMT
The explosion is a worrying development but not actually surprising. In general, depressingly ,there are people now allowing themselves to get so angry about policies and people in power that they are becoming extremists. Edit - i say allowing themselves , but it’s not helped by some politicians talking abhorrent nonsense about other human beings. Appealing to deep held views amongst some around ethnicity. There is a cross over between those who despise Sadiq Khan for example and EDL types. You can oppose Khan without being racist or becoming an extremist happy to blow up street furniture risking passers by Exactly, your spot on - this whole smashing stuff up is so counter productive and we'll all pay for it in the end one way or another. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 8, 2023 12:35:09 GMT
Almost killing people is an exaggeration. Was there anyone standing by at the time? It would be the equivalent of saying a tyre blew out on a car on a motorway with the only car driving down the road at 2am and the debris fromt he tyre went all other the place. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 8, 2023 12:40:07 GMT
The explosion is a worrying development but not actually surprising. In general, depressingly ,there are people now allowing themselves to get so angry about policies and people in power that they are becoming extremists. Edit - i say allowing themselves , but it’s not helped by some politicians talking abhorrent nonsense about other human beings. Appealing to deep held views amongst some around ethnicity. There is a cross over between those who despise Sadiq Khan for example and EDL types. You can oppose Khan without being racist or becoming an extremist happy to blow up street furniture risking passers by A lot of this kind of thing is fuelled by the media, the stories and constant coverage they give them as it generates hits for them. Just look how organisations such as Just Stop Oil have thrived out of the media in the past few years. If none of their stories were published or given front page news they would have given up. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 8, 2023 14:09:20 GMT
Almost killing people is an exaggeration. Was there anyone standing by at the time? It would be the equivalent of saying a tyre blew out on a car on a motorway with the only car driving down the road at 2am and the debris fromt he tyre went all other the place. Well a bus passed by and the driver was hit and parts of explosion went through a window of a kid’s bedroom nearly killing the occupants and a dog walker was nearby. But luckily no one was seriously injured thank goodness. |
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 9, 2023 19:08:54 GMT
The explosion is a worrying development but not actually surprising. In general, depressingly ,there are people now allowing themselves to get so angry about policies and people in power that they are becoming extremists. Edit - i say allowing themselves , but it’s not helped by some politicians talking abhorrent nonsense about other human beings. Appealing to deep held views amongst some around ethnicity. There is a cross over between those who despise Sadiq Khan for example and EDL types. You can oppose Khan without being racist or becoming an extremist happy to blow up street furniture risking passers by Exactly, your spot on - this whole smashing stuff up is so counter productive and we'll all pay for it in the end one way or another. Tension is as high as Rishi Sunak's trousers... some are pushed to the limits by costs of living, though the vandalism of these cameras has reached a worrying phase. What of gas pipes nearby? Could have been very nasty. Politicians don't listen so cannot see any immediate change. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 13, 2023 23:29:08 GMT
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Post by MKAY315 on Jan 10, 2024 7:39:54 GMT
So folks
Here's my next theory on the next tax for ULEZ. I think they'll either do a blanket rule for euro 6 cars across the board to raise the age profile and once the money has been made on that then they'll change it hybrid and electric cars that will be permitted to drive in London "free" of charge (see what I did there 😉) before making it electric only. So the first part I'll give that another 3-4 years and then the hybrid part I'll say from about 2030 onwards.
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Post by busman on Jan 10, 2024 8:25:38 GMT
The explosion is a worrying development but not actually surprising. In general, depressingly ,there are people now allowing themselves to get so angry about policies and people in power that they are becoming extremists. Edit - i say allowing themselves , but it’s not helped by some politicians talking abhorrent nonsense about other human beings. Appealing to deep held views amongst some around ethnicity. There is a cross over between those who despise Sadiq Khan for example and EDL types. You can oppose Khan without being racist or becoming an extremist happy to blow up street furniture risking passers by A lot of this kind of thing is fuelled by the media, the stories and constant coverage they give them as it generates hits for them. Just look how organisations such as Just Stop Oil have thrived out of the media in the past few years. If none of their stories were published or given front page news they would have given up. To a certain extent, but with the rise of social media the power of mainstream media to control the narrative is not as absolute as it once was. Movements spread en masse through publicly generated digital content. The media has no choice but to report on these events, otherwise the public being affected would start to question why the issue was being overlooked and our free open press would be accused of not doing their job. Ultimately this whole episode shows a weakness in our democracy. We get to vote every 5 years and hand carte blanche power to our politicians even when the landscape has changed. Also this system gives political leaders room to pivot even against significant public opposition- which is likely to lead to social unrest if people feel there is no other way. Like it or not, the ULEZ expansion to all of London was not part of Khan’s 2021 manifesto. By not putting the expansion to a vote (either referendum or saving it for the 2024 election) the mayor has incurred the wrath of the public who see a mayor implementing a policy with absolutely zero mandate that increases costs of living and doing business at a time when many people are struggling financially. I don’t think we should put up and shut up when any politician abuses their power or authority. The sad thing about the future, is that the Conservatives have once again served up a really poor candidate. I can’t bring myself to vote for Sue Hall. Like the previous mayoral election, I will probably sit this one out unless another viable option becomes available. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 27, 2024 21:11:57 GMT
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Post by Paul on Jan 28, 2024 11:26:14 GMT
Demonstration held in central London to protest Ulez expansionProtesters gathered in Trafalgar Square to demand an end to London's ultra-low emission zone (Ulez) ‘People will forget about ULEZ by the time of the Mayoral election’ Wasn’t that the rhetoric when it came in and these protests started? Make no mistake, ULEZ will be front and centre of the Mayoral election campaign. You only have to look at the disruption caused by several sets of ULEZ-topped traffic lights being cut down in Bromley borough over the last couple of weeks to see that people are fiercely passionate about this issue. I’m not condoning the destruction of traffic lights but I can fully understand the reasons for people continuing to take them down |
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