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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 8, 2022 19:05:56 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. I would add that I could see the 24 number being retained on the 27, and the 27 is the route that gets withdrawn. This minimises any uproar from the local community in Hampstead Heath who are probably the most likely to cause a flare up. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Jan 8, 2022 19:09:00 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. I can see the Hampstead routing axed entirely, knowing the 46 and the 168 also links to Hampstead Heath directly from Camden Town |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jan 8, 2022 19:18:48 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jan 8, 2022 19:20:16 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. I can see the Hampstead routing axed entirely, knowing the 46 and the 168 also links to Hampstead Heath directly from Camden Town That might not be a smart idea as north of Camden the 24 can get quite busy so one way or another I do think a second route should be kept on that section, and that's not to say a service like the 46 isn't already busy enough. |
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Post by busboy17 on Jan 10, 2022 22:41:37 GMT
So this is just an idea but withdraw the 53 from county hall back to elephant and castle make it 24 hours removing the N53 extend the 171 to county hall and N171 re routed to whitehall make the new 1 24 hours and renunber N1 N188
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 10, 2022 22:50:21 GMT
So this is just an idea but withdraw the 53 from county hall back to elephant and castle make it 24 hours removing the N53 extend the 171 to county hall and N171 re routed to whitehall make the new 1 24 hours and renunber N1 N188 I'd say the 53 is a lot more valued going that slightest bit further to County Hall than the 171 would be. Quite a few people do wait for it under the rail bridge despite how grim it is. |
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 10, 2022 23:04:56 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. Are you sure what you have proposed for the 11 is right? Do you actually mean it will be diverted at Victoria to run to Pimlico and be withdrawn Victoria to Fulham Broadway? |
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Post by TB123 on Jan 10, 2022 23:05:56 GMT
My prediction of what will happen regarding "24-gate" - a couple have these have been suggested to me as what could happen, but time will tell. 11 - diverted at Victoria to Pimlico. Withdrawn between Victoria and Liverpool Street. PVR changed to 13 16 - extended to Fulham Broadway via the 11 route. PVR changed to 20. This route would have a max trip time shorter than the existing 11 and be 30% longer in distance. 24 - withdrawn. 27 - extended to Hampstead Heath. PVR changed to 19. 211 - reduced to 5bph. PVR changed to 13. 390 - extended to Waterloo via 507 route. PVR changed to 31 - now this one would actually be an improvement as the frequencies would match, double decks and new links would be opened up. 507 - withdrawn I suppose we'll have to watch this space regarding what happens. Are you sure what you have proposed for the 11 is right? Do you actually mean it will be diverted at Victoria to run to Pimlico and be withdrawn Victoria to Fulham Broadway? Yes, error on my part |
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Post by danorak on Jan 10, 2022 23:24:57 GMT
So this is just an idea but withdraw the 53 from county hall back to elephant and castle make it 24 hours removing the N53 extend the 171 to county hall and N171 re routed to whitehall make the new 1 24 hours and renunber N1 N188 I'd say the 53 is a lot more valued going that slightest bit further to County Hall than the 171 would be. Quite a few people do wait for it under the rail bridge despite how grim it is. I would still not be surprised to see the 53 return to Whitehall and the 453 suffer further cuts, on the grounds the Bakerloo Line has spare capacity and onward bus connections are easier in Westminster. A cutback to the Elephant wouldn't offer anything, you still nearly have to go to Lambeth North to turn. |
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Post by greenboy on Jan 11, 2022 8:37:09 GMT
So this is just an idea but withdraw the 53 from county hall back to elephant and castle make it 24 hours removing the N53 extend the 171 to county hall and N171 re routed to whitehall make the new 1 24 hours and renunber N1 N188 I can't really see much benefit in that to be honest, the current arrangement means that the 53 gives same stop interchange with other routes that cross Westminster Bridge and the 171 with buses towards Holborn where it previously went. |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 11, 2022 13:08:43 GMT
So this is just an idea but withdraw the 53 from county hall back to elephant and castle make it 24 hours removing the N53 extend the 171 to county hall and N171 re routed to whitehall make the new 1 24 hours and renunber N1 N188 I can't really see much benefit in that to be honest, the current arrangement means that the 53 gives same stop interchange with other routes that cross Westminster Bridge and the 171 with buses towards Holborn where it previously went. But yet it was you who was banging on about withdrawing the 53 to Elephant… |
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Post by COBO on Jan 24, 2022 0:41:13 GMT
Arriva London and Metroline merges together
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Post by Busboy105 on Jan 24, 2022 7:27:56 GMT
Arriva London and Metroline merges together That would be insane... but isn't there still uncertainty regarding DB? |
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Post by COBO on Jan 24, 2022 18:22:44 GMT
Arriva London and Metroline merges together That would be insane... but isn't there still uncertainty regarding DB? I’m not so sure. |
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