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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Feb 27, 2022 16:29:22 GMT
Was WSD1 not hybrid? The 486 saw one.Also great to see 198 and 250 with hybrids - the more routes off this list, the better. |
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Feb 27, 2022 16:40:41 GMT
Some routes have been exclusively diesel. Only a few double-deck bus routes have never had a low-emissions bus working (whether battery-hybrid, smart-hybrid, electric, pantograph or hydrogen-powered) remain. 66, 89, 103, 121, 128, 132, 145, 150*, 169, 175, 191, 198, 247, 250, 279, 291, 294, 368, 370, 486, 498, N250. The 132 and 198 (and certainly the 250 and N250) will be next off the list with the new HAs. Which one will be the last? I'm predicting the 217 GY routes, 66, 103, 175 and 370. If I've missed any out, or any routes on my list have had the elusive working, let me know. 345? Pretty sure the only Diesel DD route to enter Zone 1. I'm sure 476 is as well |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 27, 2022 17:22:25 GMT
345? Pretty sure the only Diesel DD route to enter Zone 1. I'm sure 476 is as well Neither fit the OP’s requirement which is for exclusively diesel routes including strays from other routes based at the same garage. So whilst the 476 is allocated just WVN’s, Ee’s have and do appear ruling it out |
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 27, 2022 17:30:06 GMT
Neither fit the OP’s requirement which is for exclusively diesel routes including strays from other routes based at the same garage. So whilst the 476 is allocated just WVN’s, Ee’s have and do appear ruling it out I wonder if strays from 67 and 76 will see LTs on the 476 at some point. |
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Feb 27, 2022 17:32:07 GMT
Neither fit the OP’s requirement which is for exclusively diesel routes including strays from other routes based at the same garage. So whilst the 476 is allocated just WVN’s, Ee’s have and do appear ruling it out I meant that 476 was another diesel route that enters Z1 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 11:03:43 GMT
But the odd VWH do appear on those routes even if it’s rare. Can you say for sure that 237, E2 and E8 will be diesel until there contracts ends? How do you know that Metroline aren’t planning to put hybrids mid way through their contracts? There are routes with older TE’s in north London. AH’s VW’s aren’t in the worst condition, the 10 reg are pretty poor but the 61 and 12 reg are still fairly good. The 237, which was the first route to get the VWs will finish in 2024. Whether RATP or Metroline win it (Abellio will have no space at TF with the 111) the VWs will definitely last until then. Electrics will most likely be put on the route Would've preferred the ex 295s to finish the contract and possibly remain for a new contract. |
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Post by cc2005 on Mar 4, 2022 12:15:33 GMT
Was WSD1 not hybrid? The 486 saw one.Also great to see 198 and 250 with hybrids - the more routes off this list, the better. I believe WSD1 was a regular diesel Streetdeck...happy to be corrected |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 4, 2022 12:21:52 GMT
Was WSD1 not hybrid? The 486 saw one.Also great to see 198 and 250 with hybrids - the more routes off this list, the better. I believe WSD1 was a regular diesel Streetdeck...happy to be corrected Pretty sure that is correct, and is similar to Arriva SW1 delivered about the same time. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 4, 2022 12:42:33 GMT
There are routes with older TE’s in north London. AH’s VW’s aren’t in the worst condition, the 10 reg are pretty poor but the 61 and 12 reg are still fairly good. The 237, which was the first route to get the VWs will finish in 2024. Whether RATP or Metroline win it (Abellio will have no space at TF with the 111) the VWs will definitely last until then. Electrics will most likely be put on the route Would've preferred the ex 295s to finish the contract and possibly remain for a new contract. Ex 295’s? |
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Post by COBO on Mar 4, 2022 18:55:10 GMT
There are routes with older TE’s in north London. AH’s VW’s aren’t in the worst condition, the 10 reg are pretty poor but the 61 and 12 reg are still fairly good. The 237, which was the first route to get the VWs will finish in 2024. Whether RATP or Metroline win it (Abellio will have no space at TF with the 111) the VWs will definitely last until then. Electrics will most likely be put on the route Would've preferred the ex 295s to finish the contract and possibly remain for a new contract. The VWHs on the 295 on the ex 295 yet because unless things change they’ll be on the 295 until the 295’s contract ends in October of this year and then they might be used for another contract. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jun 20, 2022 15:34:03 GMT
Some routes have been exclusively diesel. Only a few double-deck bus routes have never had a low-emissions bus working (whether battery-hybrid, smart-hybrid, electric, pantograph or hydrogen-powered) remain. 66, 89, 103, 121, 128, 132, 145, 150*, 169, 175, 191, 247, 279, 291, 294, 368, 370, 486, 498, N250. *hybrids have appeared on the 150D service operated by Go-Ahead. The 132 will soon be off the list with the new EPs, and we could see the 198’s HAs stray onto the 250 and N250. Which one will be the last? I'm predicting the 217 GY routes, 66, 103, 175 and 370. If I've missed any out, or any routes on my list have had the elusive working, let me know. Just to clarify, I’m not talking about routes allocated diesels, I am looking for routes which have never seen a low or non-emissions bus. Route 128 has seen a hybrid VLA, yes you read that right, VLA99 to be specific. Pictured here |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jul 13, 2023 9:13:24 GMT
Green Kitten EP14 currently on 89 - looks to be the next one off the list 145 has also seen many hybrids, such as 11399, as it has recently started its new contract using hybrids. Photo credit to lakithunder
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Post by Green Kitten on Jul 13, 2023 10:03:56 GMT
Green Kitten EP14 currently on 89 - looks to be the next one off the list 145 has also seen many hybrids, such as 11399, as it has recently started its new contract using hybrids. Photo credit to lakithunder EP14 was only out for under an hour, possible login only? |
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Post by MoEnviro on Jul 13, 2023 10:36:00 GMT
Green Kitten EP14 currently on 89 - looks to be the next one off the list 145 has also seen many hybrids, such as 11399, as it has recently started its new contract using hybrids. Photo credit to lakithunder EP14 was only out for under an hour, possible login only? Tracking seems to show it operating from Barnehurst Station to Shooters Hill only |
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Post by busboy17 on Jul 25, 2023 22:44:04 GMT
Was WSD1 not hybrid? The 486 saw one.Also great to see 198 and 250 with hybrids - the more routes off this list, the better. Didn't the 486 also use YJ16DBO? |
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