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Post by mrhk on Sept 30, 2024 21:00:24 GMT
Apart from a few routes, what actually never see a Hybrid/Electric on a "daily basis" on normal circumstances? Only counting DD routes for this question cos SDs are more stricter with on paper allocations. On top of my head, using my list to work out: 28 60 61 62 81 121 128 158 165 (only temporarily DD) 179 190 191 252 258 291 294 403 496 498 D8 That is a good few, pls add more & correct me if I am wrong on any. Would you count SL7 as one? It is allocated to G2B9TLs
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Post by yunus on Sept 30, 2024 21:21:56 GMT
Apart from a few routes, what actually never see a Hybrid/Electric on a "daily basis" on normal circumstances? Only counting DD routes for this question cos SDs are more stricter with on paper allocations. On top of my head, using my list to work out: 28 60 61 62 81 121 128 158 165 (only temporarily DD) 179 190 191 252 258 291 294 403 496 498 D8 That is a good few, pls add more & correct me if I am wrong on any. Would you count SL7 as one? It is allocated to G2B9TLs Yes & no cos it has now been confirmed to move away from Diesels 😆
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Post by borneobus on Oct 1, 2024 8:14:50 GMT
Apart from a few routes, what actually never see a Hybrid/Electric on a "daily basis" on normal circumstances? Only counting DD routes for this question cos SDs are more stricter with on paper allocations. On top of my head, using my list to work out: 28 60 61 62 81 121 128 158 165 (only temporarily DD) 179 190 191 252 258 291 294 403 496 498 D8 That is a good few, pls add more & correct me if I am wrong on any. Thanks for this, as mentioned previously on the forum I'm trying to ride diesel (and hybrid) routes e2e before they convert to EV so tend to keep an eye on buses -> routes via LVF. Currently, there are 44 DD routes (plus jury out on Uno's 298) where you could reasonably expect to see a 100% diesel allocation (corrections / additions welcome!) Arriva (18 ROUTES)
60 / TC / DW & T 66 / GY / DW 99 / DT / DW & T 103 / GY / DW 121 / E / DW 150 / DX / DW & T 158 / EC / DW 175 / DX / DW 191 / E / DW 194 / TC / DW & T 229 / DT / DW & T 250 / TH / T 269 / DT / DW & T 279 / E / DW & T 370 / GY / DW & T 401 / DT / DW & T 428 / DT / DW & T 492 / DT / DW & T Go-Ahead (12 ROUTES)
51 / BX / E, EN, WVK & WVN 89 / BX / E & WVL 101 / RR / E & WVL 127 / C / E & WVL 129 / MG / E 151 / A / DOE 291 / MG / E 403 / C / E, WVL & WVN 412 / C / DW & T 473 / SI / E, WVL & WVN 486 / BX / E, EN & WVL SL7 / C / WVL Metroline (6 ROUTES)
28 / WJ / VW 83 / ON / VW 190 / AH / VW E1 / G / VW E8 / AH / VW W8 / PB / TE & VW RATP (1 ROUTE)
258 / BT / ADE Stagecoach (7 ROUTES)
61 / TB / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 165 / RM / Enviro 400 19xxx 179 / BK / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 252 / RM / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 287 / RM / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 496 / RM / Enviro 400 19xxx D7 / HK / Enviro 400 19xxx
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Post by yunus on Oct 1, 2024 8:41:05 GMT
Apart from a few routes, what actually never see a Hybrid/Electric on a "daily basis" on normal circumstances? Only counting DD routes for this question cos SDs are more stricter with on paper allocations. On top of my head, using my list to work out: 28 60 61 62 81 121 128 158 165 (only temporarily DD) 179 190 191 252 258 291 294 403 496 498 D8 That is a good few, pls add more & correct me if I am wrong on any. Thanks for this, as mentioned previously on the forum I'm trying to ride diesel (and hybrid) routes e2e before they convert to EV so tend to keep an eye on buses -> routes via LVF. Currently, there are 44 DD routes (plus jury out on Uno's 298) where you could reasonably expect to see a 100% diesel allocation (corrections / additions welcome!) Arriva (18 ROUTES)
60 / TC / DW & T 66 / GY / DW 99 / DT / DW & T 103 / GY / DW 121 / E / DW 150 / DX / DW & T 158 / EC / DW 175 / DX / DW 191 / E / DW 194 / TC / DW & T 229 / DT / DW & T 250 / TH / T 269 / DT / DW & T 279 / E / DW & T 370 / GY / DW & T 401 / DT / DW & T 428 / DT / DW & T 492 / DT / DW & T Go-Ahead (12 ROUTES)
51 / BX / E, EN, WVK & WVN 89 / BX / E & WVL 101 / RR / E & WVL 127 / C / E & WVL 129 / MG / E 151 / A / DOE 291 / MG / E 403 / C / E, WVL & WVN 412 / C / DW & T 473 / SI / E, WVL & WVN 486 / BX / E, EN & WVL SL7 / C / WVL Metroline (6 ROUTES)
28 / WJ / VW 83 / ON / VW 190 / AH / VW E1 / G / VW E8 / AH / VW W8 / PB / TE & VW RATP (1 ROUTE)
258 / BT / ADE Stagecoach (7 ROUTES)
61 / TB / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 165 / RM / Enviro 400 19xxx 179 / BK / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 252 / RM / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 287 / RM / Enviro 400 101xx & 19xxx 496 / RM / Enviro 400 19xxx D7 / HK / Enviro 400 19xxx No problem at all 😊 LVF the main daily website I use for tracking buses and I am sure many others do as well. Thank you so much for listing out the routes, made it easier.
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Post by yunus on Oct 1, 2024 20:47:28 GMT
borneobus I have done a bit more browsing on LVF and come up with this list of bus routes that operate normally 100% (or near) with Diesel buses. Please correct/advise any errors - as per usual any route confirmed to move away from Diesel buses will not be included. Only DD routes listed: 28/N28 - Metroline 60 - Arriva 61 - Stagecoach 62 - Stagecoach 81 - Metroline 121 - Arriva 127 - Go Ahead 128 - Stagecoach 158 - Arriva 165 - Stagecoach 178 - Go Ahead 179 - Stagecoach 190 - Metroline 191 - Arriva 217 - Arriva 229 - Arriva 231 - Metroline 252 - Stagecoach 256 - Stagecoach 258 - RATP 291 - Go Ahead 294 - Stagecoach 298 - UNO 365 - Stagecoach 403 - Go Ahead 412 - Arriva 428 - Arriva 486 - Go Ahead 492 - Arriva 496 - Stagecoach 498 - Stagecoach D8 - Stagecoach (32 routes) E1 - Metroline (?)
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Post by Busboy105 on Oct 2, 2024 6:27:02 GMT
E1 has had hybrids on it yunus
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Post by vjaska on Oct 7, 2024 0:31:40 GMT
yunus you forgot H19 which has the same allocation as the H18. Also, the W14 should be noted down and the R5, R7, R9 & R10 aren't earmarked for electrics thus far whilst the R6 will be withdrawn
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Post by yunus on Oct 7, 2024 8:32:47 GMT
yunus you forgot H19 which has the same allocation as the H18. Also, the W14 should be noted down and the R5, R7, R9 & R10 aren't earmarked for electrics thus far whilst the R6 will be withdrawn I did not include the W14 cos it has the BZL run on it mostly at night time.
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Post by yunus on Oct 9, 2024 13:52:24 GMT
The routes that will be listed must operate 100% guaranteed with Diesel buses with currently no or extremely rare chance Hybrid or Electric strays happening.
All routes that are confirmed for converting to Hybrid or Electric buses are not included as per usual, I welcome any corrections.
28 - ML
60 - AL
95 - ML
110 - RATP
112 - ML
117 - RATP
121 - AL
124 - SLN
128 - SLN
130 - TUK
138 - GAL
146 - SLN
162 - GAL
166 - AL
167 - SLN
170 - GAL
181 - SLN
191 - AL
192 - AL
193 - SLN
195 - TUK
201 - TUK
209 - GAL
216 - RATP
223 - ML
224 - RATP
225 - SLN
227 - GAL
234 - ML
236 - SLN
244 - GAL
258 - RATP
272 - RATP
273 - SLN
283 - RATP
284 - SLN
288 - RATP
291 - GAL
294 - SLN
296 - SLN
300 - GAL
303 - RATP
309 - SLN
310 - SLN
312 - AL
315 - TUK
318 - AL
324 - ML
326 - RATP
331 - ML
336 - SLN
346 - SLN
350 - TUK
352 - GAL
354 - GAL
356 - SLN
362 - SLN
364 - GAL
367 - TUK
378 - GAL
380 - SLN
386 - GAL
393 - ML
394 - SLN
397 - SLN
403 - GAL
404 - TUK
410 - AL
411 - RATP
419 - RATP
440 - RATP
462 - SLN
463 - GAL
464 - TUK
465 - TUK
469 - GAL
470 - GAL
488 - SLN
490 - TUK
491 - ML
493 - GAL
498 - SLN
499 - SLN
B11 - GAL
B12 - GAL
B15 - AL
E10 - TUK
E11 - TUK
H11 - RATP
H13 - ML
H17 - ML
H20 - TUK
H22 - RATP
H25 - TUK
H26 - TUK
H28 - TUK
H37 - RATP
K1/2/3/4/5 - RATP
P4 - GAL
P13 - TUK
R5/R7 - GAL
R68 - TUK
S1 - GAL
S4 - TUK
U7 - TUK
W4 - AL
W6 - AL
W9 - ML
W16 - SLN
W19 - SLN
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Post by YY13VKP on Oct 9, 2024 16:19:51 GMT
You’ve missed the 434 off this list which has never seen anything other than a diesel operate on it
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Post by WH241 on Oct 9, 2024 16:44:05 GMT
The routes that will be listed must operate 100% guaranteed with Diesel buses with currently no or extremely rare chance Hybrid or Electric strays happening. All routes that are confirmed for converting to Hybrid or Electric buses are not included as per usual, I welcome any corrections. What exactly changes on this list? its being published almost daily now?
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Post by bustavane on Oct 9, 2024 17:54:31 GMT
The routes that will be listed must operate 100% guaranteed with Diesel buses with currently no or extremely rare chance Hybrid or Electric strays happening. All routes that are confirmed for converting to Hybrid or Electric buses are not included as per usual, I welcome any corrections. What exactly changes on this list? its being published almost daily now? The accuracy??
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Post by PGAT on Oct 9, 2024 18:04:43 GMT
The 60 regularly sees hybrid strays and the 130 and 315 have also seen electrics before
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Post by busoccultation on Oct 9, 2024 18:07:23 GMT
The routes that will be listed must operate 100% guaranteed with Diesel buses with currently no or extremely rare chance Hybrid or Electric strays happening. All routes that are confirmed for converting to Hybrid or Electric buses are not included as per usual, I welcome any corrections. What exactly changes on this list? its being published almost daily now? Exactly, feels like this is just being used a personal list on a public forum by the OP to list the routes don't normally use any hybrids or electrics and including the single deck routes in the list which shouldn't be in this thread as it is just for double deck routes only.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 9, 2024 18:39:42 GMT
The 60 regularly sees hybrid strays and the 130 and 315 have also seen electrics before Depends how you define regularly. Last hybrid on the 60 recorded on LVF was just over a month ago.
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