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Post by rift on Nov 15, 2023 18:11:23 GMT
N365 stays within Havering If you were to include the weekend night service (before the suspension) you have the E1N only in Ealing. What about the 474? Does it step out of Newham at any part? The 474 stays entirely in Newham, yes
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Post by WH241 on Nov 15, 2023 18:18:40 GMT
If you were to include the weekend night service (before the suspension) you have the E1N only in Ealing. What about the 474? Does it step out of Newham at any part? The 474 stays entirely in Newham, yes Yep all the Newham ones are on page one of this thread đ
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Post by northlondon83 on Nov 15, 2023 18:38:43 GMT
No route stays entirely within Haringey. However the W3-5 and W7 plus the 41 get pretty close
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 15, 2023 19:28:49 GMT
No route stays entirely within Haringey. However the W3-5 and W7 plus the 41 get pretty close Where does W5 leave Haringey?
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Post by TB123 on Nov 15, 2023 19:31:38 GMT
No route stays entirely within Haringey. However the W3-5 and W7 plus the 41 get pretty close Where does W5 leave Haringey? Believe Archway terminus is in Islington borough.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 15, 2023 19:33:51 GMT
Where does W5 leave Haringey? Believe Archway terminus is in Islington borough. oh, I always forget that part is in Islington, apologies!
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Post by borneobus on Nov 16, 2023 1:01:51 GMT
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Post by df on Dec 3, 2023 22:47:15 GMT
Havering: 165, 193, 248, 252, 346, 365, 496, 497 Southwark to my knowledge doesn't have a route wholly within the borough, but the 363 and P12 come very, very close. Unfortunately the P12 doesn't stay within Southwark as Brockley Rise (Honor Oak Park) comes under Lewisham 381 is almost entirely in Southwark. Only part in Lambeth is the section between lower marsh and Blackfriars bridge.
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Post by mark on Dec 27, 2023 15:43:26 GMT
396 Goodmayes, King George Hospital to Ilford Hil London borough of Redbridge 235 London borough of Hounslow Brentford, Great West Quarter Brentford county court islworth Houslow high Street Houslow Heath Cranford Fletham Sunbury village Borough of Spelthorne Surrey 235 doesn't go to Cranford and like twobellstogo said doesn't stay in one Borough/county. If we stick to historic counties then it stays entirely in Middlesexđ
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 27, 2023 15:57:49 GMT
235 doesn't go to Cranford and like twobellstogo said doesn't stay in one Borough/county. If we stick to historic counties then it stays entirely in Middlesexđ Also true of the 116, 117, 203 and 290. Not the 216 as that starts in Kingston which was in Surrey pre-1965.
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Post by mark on Dec 27, 2023 16:16:36 GMT
If we stick to historic counties then it stays entirely in Middlesexđ Also true of the 116, 117, 203 and 290. Not the 216 as that starts in Kingston which was in Surrey pre-1965. âŚall of which reinforces my view that Spelthorne should be part of Greater London rather than an embarrassing outpost of Surrey on the âwrongâ side of the Thames!
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Post by twobellstogo on Dec 27, 2023 16:20:45 GMT
Also true of the 116, 117, 203 and 290. Not the 216 as that starts in Kingston which was in Surrey pre-1965. âŚall of which reinforces my view that Spelthorne should be part of Greater London rather than an embarrassing outpost of Surrey on the âwrongâ side of the Thames! Much the same as with Epsom - the residents at the time (1965) didnât want to be part of London. Many didnât want to be part of Surrey either, but that is what happened. Spelthorne strikes me as the one Borough outside London that if it were put to a referendum, the residents today just might choose to come under the GLA.
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Post by mark on Dec 27, 2023 16:35:26 GMT
âŚall of which reinforces my view that Spelthorne should be part of Greater London rather than an embarrassing outpost of Surrey on the âwrongâ side of the Thames! Much the same as with Epsom - the residents at the time (1965) didnât want to be part of London. Many didnât want to be part of Surrey either, but that is what happened. Spelthorne strikes me as the one Borough outside London that if it were put to a referendum, the residents today just might choose to come under the GLA. You may be right and Iâd love it if we were given the chance. Spelthorne has always been something of an anomaly â itâs historically part of Middlesex but was clearly not deemed urban enough to become a London Borough in 1965 so was attached to Surrey County Council for administrative purposes but until 2000 was policed by the Met. Itâs the only part of the county north of the River Thames and is, with the exception of the Wraysbury Reservoir, all within the M25 (Poyle was annexed by Slough in 1995 as it was the only settlement outside the M25!) which is what most âlayâ folk consider to be the London boundary. From a public transport perspective, many of its bus services form part of the TfL network although one is financially supported by the County Council yet oyster cards cannot be used on any of its trains (much to the confusion of many locals). Going back a few years, Staines was the only country area garage in Middlesex. I also believe that the Harrow in Charlton is the only surviving thatched pub in the former Middlesex area. To get from Stanwell Moor to anywhere else in the borough itâs necessary to enter Greater London. Indeed, there are only four (five if you count the M25 and A30 at Runnymede) crossing points to the rest of Surrey but around 15 to Greater London. From an ecclesiastical point of view we are part of the Diocese of London whilst the rest of Surrey falls under either Guildford or Southwark.
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Post by TB123 on Dec 27, 2023 16:49:54 GMT
Much the same as with Epsom - the residents at the time (1965) didnât want to be part of London. Many didnât want to be part of Surrey either, but that is what happened. Spelthorne strikes me as the one Borough outside London that if it were put to a referendum, the residents today just might choose to come under the GLA. You may be right and Iâd love it if we were given the chance. Spelthorne has always been something of an anomaly â itâs historically part of Middlesex but was clearly not deemed urban enough to become a London Borough in 1965 so was attached to Surrey County Council for administrative purposes but until 2000 was policed by the Met. Itâs the only part of the county north of the River Thames and is, with the exception of the Wraysbury Reservoir, all within the M25 (Poyle was annexed by Slough in 1995 as it was the only settlement outside the M25!) which is what most âlayâ folk consider to be the London boundary. From a public transport perspective, many of its bus services form part of the TfL network although one is financially supported by the County Council yet oyster cards cannot be used on any of its trains (much to the confusion of many locals). Going back a few years, Staines was the only country area garage in Middlesex. I also believe that the Harrow in Charlton is the only surviving thatched pub in the former Middlesex area. To get from Stanwell Moor to anywhere else in the borough itâs necessary to enter Greater London. Indeed, there are only four (five if you count the M25 and A30 at Runnymede) crossing points to the rest of Surrey but around 15 to Greater London. From an ecclesiastical point of view we are part of the Diocese of London whilst the rest of Surrey falls under either Guildford or Southwark. Controversial view: but I still think Banstead, Caterham & Warlingham ,Cheshunt, Chigwell, Epsom and Ewell, Esher, Spelthorne, Sunbury, Walton and Weybridge should be in greater London as originally envisaged....
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 27, 2023 17:12:25 GMT
Much the same as with Epsom - the residents at the time (1965) didnât want to be part of London. Many didnât want to be part of Surrey either, but that is what happened. Spelthorne strikes me as the one Borough outside London that if it were put to a referendum, the residents today just might choose to come under the GLA. You may be right and Iâd love it if we were given the chance. Spelthorne has always been something of an anomaly â itâs historically part of Middlesex but was clearly not deemed urban enough to become a London Borough in 1965 so was attached to Surrey County Council for administrative purposes but until 2000 was policed by the Met. Itâs the only part of the county north of the River Thames and is, with the exception of the Wraysbury Reservoir, all within the M25 (Poyle was annexed by Slough in 1995 as it was the only settlement outside the M25!) which is what most âlayâ folk consider to be the London boundary. From a public transport perspective, many of its bus services form part of the TfL network although one is financially supported by the County Council yet oyster cards cannot be used on any of its trains (much to the confusion of many locals). Going back a few years, Staines was the only country area garage in Middlesex. I also believe that the Harrow in Charlton is the only surviving thatched pub in the former Middlesex area. To get from Stanwell Moor to anywhere else in the borough itâs necessary to enter Greater London. Indeed, there are only four (five if you count the M25 and A30 at Runnymede) crossing points to the rest of Surrey but around 15 to Greater London. From an ecclesiastical point of view we are part of the Diocese of London whilst the rest of Surrey falls under either Guildford or Southwark. You mention Poyle - I remember taking photos of the bridge that crosses the River Colne between Poyle and Colnbrook, which was also the Adminstrative County Boundary between Middlesex and Buckinghamshire at this point until 1965. Subsequent boundary changes put Poyle in Surrey from 1st April 1965, and put Colnbrook in Berkshire (along with Slough) on 1st April 1974. Surrey County Council was the lead authority for strengthening work on the bridge in 1993 and this is also recorded on a plaque. The bridge also carries a Coal Tax Post, as a reminder that any coal imported into the City of London was liable for duty. This tax had existed since the Middle Ages but was abolished in 1891. As you mention, Poyle was incorporated into the Borough of Slough in 1995 and the village was finally united with its neighbour under a single ecclesiatical parish. At this time Berkshire was still an Administrative County and gained a coterminous boundary with Greater London for the first time. Some other tidying-up of the London/Surrey boundary around the Heathrow Airport perimeter occurred at the same time. Berkshire ceased to be an administrative county in April 1998, all its local councils becoming Unitary Authorities. The sole remaining County-wide department, the Berkshire Records Office, is located in Reading and is administered by Reading Borough Council on behalf of all the Berkshire Authorities. Colnbrook by Julian Walker, on Flickr Colnbrook by Julian Walker, on Flickr
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