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Post by SILENCED on Sept 18, 2022 18:54:44 GMT
Next month, I believe was mentioned. I think it was only said later in the year. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a holding email saying the volume of responses was high and it will take them longer to analyse them. Think they need to make the savings ASAP, so will be shocked if they do send out a delaying email ... will just make the financial predicament worse by delaying things.
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Post by transportizm on Sept 18, 2022 19:06:57 GMT
Next month, I believe was mentioned. I think it was only said later in the year. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a holding email saying the volume of responses was high and it will take them longer to analyse them. I say it would be the 1st October or November because the consultation will be released. We can probably expect a number of complaints when the changes get released.
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Post by transportizm on Sept 18, 2022 20:06:08 GMT
I think it was only said later in the year. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a holding email saying the volume of responses was high and it will take them longer to analyse them. Think they need to make the savings ASAP, so will be shocked if they do send out a delaying email ... will just make the financial predicament worse by delaying things. Yes, I would not be surprised if the changes may start at the end of this year or start of the new year.
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 18, 2022 20:59:30 GMT
I was just looking over the bus changes and I don't know why they extended the 27 down to Clapham instead because they could have just extended the 328. The 328 is already so long. Going over Battersea bridge will kill that route. I agree, but the 27 to Chalk Farm would be very long too going to Clapham Junction
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 18, 2022 20:59:34 GMT
Think they need to make the savings ASAP, so will be shocked if they do send out a delaying email ... will just make the financial predicament worse by delaying things. Yes, I would not be surprised if the changes may start at the end of this year or start of the new year. I don't think it has officially been said that the 11/78/349 have had their contracts extended thou I may be wrong. That may at the very least cause the 349 and 254/259/279 changes to go ahead this side of Christmas and maybe the 78/388 merger. The 11/26 is more likely to wait for the 26 contract renewal if it goes ahead.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 18, 2022 22:10:20 GMT
Think they need to make the savings ASAP, so will be shocked if they do send out a delaying email ... will just make the financial predicament worse by delaying things. Yes, I would not be surprised if the changes may start at the end of this year or start of the new year. I've stated on here several times that the changes will happen in the 2023/24 financial year.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Sept 18, 2022 22:12:17 GMT
Yes, I would not be surprised if the changes may start at the end of this year or start of the new year. I don't think it has officially been said that the 11/78/349 have had their contracts extended thou I may be wrong. That may at the very least cause the 349 and 254/259/279 changes to go ahead this side of Christmas and maybe the 78/388 merger. The 11/26 is more likely to wait for the 26 contract renewal if it goes ahead. I will say it again, it's been stated that the changes would happen in the 2023/24 financial year.
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 18, 2022 23:12:57 GMT
I was just looking over the bus changes and I don't know why they extended the 27 down to Clapham instead because they could have just extended the 328. The only real reason I can see would be that the 27 has a night service and can replace the N31 but that does break a Paddington to Hammersmith link if the 23 is diverted aswell and means no Hammersmith to NHG night link either. The whole purpose of that change is to remove the overlap between the 328 and C3 and maintain a Clapham Junction to Kensington link albeit a different way then the 49. What about sending the 23 down to Clapham instead? The Hammersmith extension hasn't worked out so well and the proposed restructuring to send it back to the West End would be nice for the 23 plus Kensington High Street- Clapham Junction still gets a night route
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Post by vjaska on Sept 19, 2022 2:11:02 GMT
The only real reason I can see would be that the 27 has a night service and can replace the N31 but that does break a Paddington to Hammersmith link if the 23 is diverted aswell and means no Hammersmith to NHG night link either. The whole purpose of that change is to remove the overlap between the 328 and C3 and maintain a Clapham Junction to Kensington link albeit a different way then the 49. What about sending the 23 down to Clapham instead? The Hammersmith extension hasn't worked out so well and the proposed restructuring to send it back to the West End would be nice for the 23 plus Kensington High Street- Clapham Junction still gets a night route It's a better idea than the extended 27 proposal or suggestions revolving around extending the 328, it would at least be a lot more reliable for starters
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 19, 2022 8:16:07 GMT
What about sending the 23 down to Clapham instead? The Hammersmith extension hasn't worked out so well and the proposed restructuring to send it back to the West End would be nice for the 23 plus Kensington High Street- Clapham Junction still gets a night route It's a better idea than the extended 27 proposal or suggestions revolving around extending the 328, it would at least be a lot more reliable for starters Clapham Junction to Westbourne park via Kensington would probably be a manageable length compared with either CJ to Chalk Farm or Golders Green. However thou ofcourse the 23 is needed back to aldwych as the 6 is needed to Holborn in place of the 98 as the 98 is needed in order to remove the 16. One change can effectively be tied in to several others.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Sept 19, 2022 8:47:18 GMT
What about sending the 23 down to Clapham instead? The Hammersmith extension hasn't worked out so well and the proposed restructuring to send it back to the West End would be nice for the 23 plus Kensington High Street- Clapham Junction still gets a night route It's a better idea than the extended 27 proposal or suggestions revolving around extending the 328, it would at least be a lot more reliable for starters I have suggested re-routing 306 via the A4 from West Kensington to run the full C3 route. This way Hammersmith keeps it's Sands End link and earns a Chelsea link as well as giving an alternative to the 295 that doesn't pass by Chelsea FC (if people would like to go to CLJ). This means that no route is too long and means that the 23 is actually useful going to Aldwych (tbh should have extended it to Liverpool Street to support 26, which has passengers mainly for the East End)
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Post by vjaska on Sept 19, 2022 9:55:02 GMT
It's a better idea than the extended 27 proposal or suggestions revolving around extending the 328, it would at least be a lot more reliable for starters I have suggested re-routing 306 via the A4 from West Kensington to run the full C3 route. This way Hammersmith keeps it's Sands End link and earns a Chelsea link as well as giving an alternative to the 295 that doesn't pass by Chelsea FC (if people would like to go to CLJ). This means that no route is too long and means that the 23 is actually useful going to Aldwych (tbh should have extended it to Liverpool Street to support 26, which has passengers mainly for the East End) The 23 to Liverpool Street would run into the same issues as the 11 - it was just as much a slog as the 11 currently is
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Post by rif153 on Sept 19, 2022 11:20:25 GMT
It's a better idea than the extended 27 proposal or suggestions revolving around extending the 328, it would at least be a lot more reliable for starters I have suggested re-routing 306 via the A4 from West Kensington to run the full C3 route. This way Hammersmith keeps it's Sands End link and earns a Chelsea link as well as giving an alternative to the 295 that doesn't pass by Chelsea FC (if people would like to go to CLJ). This means that no route is too long and means that the 23 is actually useful going to Aldwych (tbh should have extended it to Liverpool Street to support 26, which has passengers mainly for the East End) Are you proposing to change the 328 as part of these proposals? TFL have deemed one route adequate been Chelsea and Earls Court and I think they're right on that. There's also the problems of severing links to Fulham Broadway and although only a short stretch, traffic on the A4.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Sept 19, 2022 11:35:45 GMT
I have suggested re-routing 306 via the A4 from West Kensington to run the full C3 route. This way Hammersmith keeps it's Sands End link and earns a Chelsea link as well as giving an alternative to the 295 that doesn't pass by Chelsea FC (if people would like to go to CLJ). This means that no route is too long and means that the 23 is actually useful going to Aldwych (tbh should have extended it to Liverpool Street to support 26, which has passengers mainly for the East End) Are you proposing to change the 328 as part of these proposals? TFL have deemed one route adequate been Chelsea and Earls Court and I think they're right on that. There's also the problems of severing links to Fulham Broadway and although only a short stretch, traffic on the A4. What links to Fulham Broadway? 295 covers Hammersmith to Fulham Broadway and 306 doesn't go far enough into Acton to be counted as Acton to Fulham
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Post by transportizm on Sept 19, 2022 11:57:17 GMT
I have suggested re-routing 306 via the A4 from West Kensington to run the full C3 route. This way Hammersmith keeps it's Sands End link and earns a Chelsea link as well as giving an alternative to the 295 that doesn't pass by Chelsea FC (if people would like to go to CLJ). This means that no route is too long and means that the 23 is actually useful going to Aldwych (tbh should have extended it to Liverpool Street to support 26, which has passengers mainly for the East End) Are you proposing to change the 328 as part of these proposals? TFL have deemed one route adequate been Chelsea and Earls Court and I think they're right on that. There's also the problems of severing links to Fulham Broadway and although only a short stretch, traffic on the A4. If the 328 was changed to Hammersmith still this would mean that there is no Earl's Court link to Notting Hill Gate and other places central of Earl's Court.
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