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Post by northlondon83 on May 12, 2023 8:47:46 GMT
Thursday was a bad day for the Tories, losing over 1000 councillors, showing how much discontent there is in the country! Some party members blame the leadership (or lack of) of Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's far too early to say but are the Tories heading for defeat at the end of the year? In my opinion they should bring the election forward to May 2024, I don't see many people wanting another winter election Most general elections tends to be around April/May The Tories might want to cling onto power as long as possible so might hold it in December 2024, however it does seem like a better idea to hold it in May.
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Post by southlondon413 on May 12, 2023 9:32:23 GMT
Most general elections tends to be around April/May The Tories might want to cling onto power as long as possible so might hold it in December 2024, however it does seem like a better idea to hold it in May. They can’t hold it off until May. Legally speaking the latest the next general election can be held is January 2025, they cannot extend it owing to the Fixed Term Parliament Act. They can call it earlier but not later.
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Post by northlondon83 on May 12, 2023 10:21:37 GMT
The Tories might want to cling onto power as long as possible so might hold it in December 2024, however it does seem like a better idea to hold it in May. They can’t hold it off until May. Legally speaking the latest the next general election can be held is January 2025, they cannot extend it owing to the Fixed Term Parliament Act. They can call it earlier but not later. I meant May next year. However this seems unlikely as the Tories will want to avoid holding an election whilst they don't have popular support and many seats turning to No overall control, Labour or Lib Dem in recent elections. A winter election is more likely and whoever wins could reset the elections to May beyond January 2025 (ie they would have the following election in May 2029 instead of January 2030)
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Post by southlondon413 on May 12, 2023 11:48:13 GMT
They can’t hold it off until May. Legally speaking the latest the next general election can be held is January 2025, they cannot extend it owing to the Fixed Term Parliament Act. They can call it earlier but not later. I meant May next year. However this seems unlikely as the Tories will want to avoid holding an election whilst they don't have popular support and many seats turning to No overall control, Labour or Lib Dem in recent elections. A winter election is more likely and whoever wins could reset the elections to May beyond January 2025 (ie they would have the following election in May 2029 instead of January 2030) Yeah, they definitely aren’t going to call an early election. I also suspect Labour will no longer want an early election as they are still not a position, according to many polls, to win a majority. If I were both the Tory and Labour I’d be concerned about the rise of the Lib Dems which just proves that people have very short memories. Their last stint in power was an absolute shitshow. I honestly feel sorry for Labour wanting to take power now, things are just not going to improve anytime soon.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 13, 2023 4:07:06 GMT
Thursday was a bad day for the Tories, losing over 1000 councillors, showing how much discontent there is in the country! Some party members blame the leadership (or lack of) of Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's far too early to say but are the Tories heading for defeat at the end of the year? In my opinion they should bring the election forward to May 2024, I don't see many people wanting another winter election On the contrary the longer time they have for elections the better the chances of them saving face There was a lot of discontent against BoJo towards the end and Truss added fuel to the fire. Think Sunak managed to stem the decline (can only get better from here!) - if either BoJo / Truss had been in power now, the losses would have been higher I am often hearing Autumn next year suggested. A one-off date in passing which does seem plausible is the Thursday before the clocks go back, so October 24th.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 13, 2023 4:14:31 GMT
Yeah I agree, appointing Truss was a big mistake, she clearly showed she had no clue how to run a country. I agree Rishi Sunak is the best out of the last three, BoJo did some good things for the country like the vaccine rollout, however even without the coronavirus there would still have been some issue that would have brought him down. I'd say that Rishi is probably the best PM in the post Brexit era (Theresa May onwards). Theresa May was just weak and the country was stuck in instability with Brexit not moving forward. Unfortunately there were a lot of MPs from other parties who wanted to block Brexit from happening which didn't really help. Some interesting opinion polls: www.ipsos.com/en-uk/uk-opinion-pollsThe Tories were ahead in the polls until around late 2021, when the partygate scandal emerged, and it just got worse from there. The only thing that perhaps helped Boris stay in power in 2022 was the war in Ukraine, as most people approved Boris's dealing with Russia/Ukraine however his government were still held back by other controversies. Liz Truss had a favourability rating of just 5% by the time she resigned in October 2022 even Boris didn't manage to go that low! Most people are against Brexit... I can't see either government holding a second referendum but if they did Remain would surely win. But these are just opinion polls so are unlikely to be accurate With regards to the referendum that was a big mistake that was caused. I personally voted to remain in the EU because of the pros and cons on weighing up the options. Now some are crying about the mistake they made voting to leave. Erm what did you expect. You can't have your cake and eat it. You can't expect to leave an establishment and still maintain all it's perks. My enthusiasm for all things Remain has dimmed a bit. A combination of poor service from Pret a Manger and some awkward customers in my job. Now that we are out of the EU, it seems more practical to keep the good from Europe, take up good arising from Europe and have the best relations we can over matters of mutual importance. Much of this can be achieved without the huge amount of negotiation and legislative time rejoining would take. One referendum legacy that does remain in my life is that I still base a majority of my bus trips across the country on areas/boroughs that voted Remain.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 13, 2023 4:18:49 GMT
The Tories might want to cling onto power as long as possible so might hold it in December 2024, however it does seem like a better idea to hold it in May. They can’t hold it off until May. Legally speaking the latest the next general election can be held is January 2025, they cannot extend it owing to the Fixed Term Parliament Act. They can call it earlier but not later. The Fixed Term Parliament Act was repealed last year. As Parliament needs to be dissolved by the 5th anniversary of when it first sat, the next General Election can be no later than January 2025.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 14, 2023 16:53:41 GMT
Priti Patel: Tory leadership errors cost us dearly in local electionsFormer home secretary Priti Patel has blamed the Conservative Party's leadership for heavy local election losses in a speech.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65579691
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 9, 2023 16:24:24 GMT
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Post by richard on Jun 9, 2023 19:19:55 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 9, 2023 19:29:25 GMT
Good riddance but should have happened ages ago. The man is a nasty liar who fooled the nation with his double life. What a disastrous day for the Tories! Unless Rishi can save them, surely they're dead and buried by the election in 18 months time!
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 9, 2023 19:36:13 GMT
Good riddance but should have happened ages ago. The man is a nasty liar who fooled the nation with his double life. What a disastrous day for the Tories! Unless Rishi can save them, surely they're dead and buried by the election in 18 months time! Politics is like fashion, 18 months is a lifetime. It wasn’t too long ago that Labour were also unelectable and in many ways still are.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 9, 2023 19:58:55 GMT
Good riddance but should have happened ages ago. The man is a nasty liar who fooled the nation with his double life. What a disastrous day for the Tories! Unless Rishi can save them, surely they're dead and buried by the election in 18 months time! Politics is like fashion, 18 months is a lifetime. It wasn’t too long ago that Labour were also unelectable and in many ways still are. Notably though it's been 18 months since the partygate allegations and people haven't forgotten about that.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jun 9, 2023 20:31:47 GMT
Good riddance but should have happened ages ago. The man is a nasty liar who fooled the nation with his double life. What a disastrous day for the Tories! Unless Rishi can save them, surely they're dead and buried by the election in 18 months time! If you still support this current incarnation of the Conservative Party in Westminster, you really must be delusional. They are all a bunch of self serving mendacious charlatans, and they need a period in opposition. I’m not particularly a supporter of any party, but surely it must be time up for this lot.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 9, 2023 20:35:06 GMT
Honestly Labour are just as bad, remember what Keir Starmer did, also broke lockdown rules. Perhaps he should go too. Rishi is the best we've had since Brexit, and by that I mean that we face two bad choices of who to vote for next year, but it's a shame that Boris wasn't ousted sooner or became PM in the first place. He was only elected for one reason which was because he had a better Brexit plan than other MPs at the time however Brexit has long passed and Boris ruined his political career with the parties. The resignation honours list is also disgraceful
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