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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 9, 2023 20:41:23 GMT
Honestly Labour are just as bad, remember what Keir Starmer did, also broke lockdown rules. Perhaps he should go too. Rishi is the best we've had since Brexit, and by that I mean that we face two bad choices of who to vote for next year, but it's a shame that Boris wasn't ousted sooner or became PM in the first place. He was only elected for one reason which was because he had a better Brexit plan than other MPs at the time however Brexit has long passed and Boris ruined his political career with the parties. The resignation honours list is also disgraceful Keir Starmer wasn't guilty, as the police had concluded. You can try to make up your own version of events, but the police had access to more information than we ever will have and I'm sure they knew what they were doing.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 9, 2023 20:46:14 GMT
Honestly Labour are just as bad, remember what Keir Starmer did, also broke lockdown rules. Perhaps he should go too. Rishi is the best we've had since Brexit, and by that I mean that we face two bad choices of who to vote for next year, but it's a shame that Boris wasn't ousted sooner or became PM in the first place. He was only elected for one reason which was because he had a better Brexit plan than other MPs at the time however Brexit has long passed and Boris ruined his political career with the parties. The resignation honours list is also disgraceful Starmer did NOT break lockdown rules, the Police investigated (wrongly) mainly due to the pressure of the right wing newspapers and was vindicated by the Police. So you are factually incorrect with your statement.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 9, 2023 20:49:23 GMT
Apologies I got my facts wrong about Starmer, I take back what I said. I still wouldn't vote for him though
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Post by greenboy on Jun 9, 2023 21:06:52 GMT
Honestly Labour are just as bad, remember what Keir Starmer did, also broke lockdown rules. Perhaps he should go too. Rishi is the best we've had since Brexit, and by that I mean that we face two bad choices of who to vote for next year, but it's a shame that Boris wasn't ousted sooner or became PM in the first place. He was only elected for one reason which was because he had a better Brexit plan than other MPs at the time however Brexit has long passed and Boris ruined his political career with the parties. The resignation honours list is also disgraceful Starmer did NOT break lockdown rules, the Police investigated (wrongly) mainly due to the pressure of the right wing newspapers and was vindicated by the Police. So you are factually incorrect with your statement. Starmer got away with it by the skin of his teeth and is hardly in a position to take the moral high ground.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 9, 2023 21:35:18 GMT
Starmer did NOT break lockdown rules, the Police investigated (wrongly) mainly due to the pressure of the right wing newspapers and was vindicated by the Police. So you are factually incorrect with your statement. Starmer got away with it by the skin of his teeth and is hardly in a position to take the moral high ground. Call it what you like but one was proved guilty and one was proved innocent
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 9, 2023 22:42:36 GMT
Madness, because she could not get her own way. Typical of modern politics; selfish politicians, more about self interest instead of serving the public
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Post by TB123 on Jun 9, 2023 22:46:07 GMT
Honestly Labour are just as bad, remember what Keir Starmer did, also broke lockdown rules. Perhaps he should go too. Rishi is the best we've had since Brexit, and by that I mean that we face two bad choices of who to vote for next year, but it's a shame that Boris wasn't ousted sooner or became PM in the first place. He was only elected for one reason which was because he had a better Brexit plan than other MPs at the time however Brexit has long passed and Boris ruined his political career with the parties. The resignation honours list is also disgraceful Starmer did NOT break lockdown rules, the Police investigated (wrongly) mainly due to the pressure of the right wing newspapers and was vindicated by the Police. So you are factually incorrect with your statement. Well said
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 10, 2023 13:25:16 GMT
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Post by richard on Jun 10, 2023 15:00:16 GMT
This has to be the end of the Tory government with all those resignations
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Post by WH241 on Jun 10, 2023 15:12:56 GMT
This has to be the end of the Tory government with all those resignations You would think so but we have been here before. They won’t go until they are forced out in 2024.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 10, 2023 16:11:54 GMT
This has to be the end of the Tory government with all those resignations Won't be, they'll carry on until 2024. I'm happy this is happening, not so because I despise this government but more so that this soap opera should hopefully be leaving now permanently until the next election where they can be voted out completely. Think it's quite clear that Sunak won't keep all three of these seats and in the grand scheme it's going to be peanuts for the Tory majority at the moment. I think what the intention was for Boris was to create a revolt, much like what Sunak did to him last year, but that's been a spectacular failure with Nigel Adams being the only one that's followed, and nobody even knows who he is. People like Dominic Raab, Priti Patel and Jacob Rees Mogg who were Johnson loyalists are not following in this latest charade. There's a country to run, and the government need to get on with it until the next election.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 14, 2023 16:47:54 GMT
The outcome of the by elections will be pivotal in determining who wins the election next year. If Keir Starmer doesn't win Uxbridge and South Ruislip then I don't think he's PM potential, it's an important marginal seat. The corruption of the SNP and the Tories means that it has opened a huge window of opportunity for Labour to take advantage.
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Post by mkay315 on Jun 14, 2023 16:59:20 GMT
The outcome of the by elections will be pivotal in determining who wins the election next year. If Keir Starmer doesn't win Uxbridge and South Ruislip then I don't think he's PM potential, it's an important marginal seat. The corruption of the SNP and the Tories means that it has opened a huge window of opportunity for Labour to take advantage. Starmer please. This guy has scored more own goals than I can count. I don't rate a person who doesn't know what they stand for.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 14, 2023 17:00:58 GMT
The outcome of the by elections will be pivotal in determining who wins the election next year. If Keir Starmer doesn't win Uxbridge and South Ruislip then I don't think he's PM potential, it's an important marginal seat. The corruption of the SNP and the Tories means that it has opened a huge window of opportunity for Labour to take advantage. Starmer please. This guy has scored more own goals than I can count. I don't rate a person who doesn't know what they stand for. This might be an unpopular opinion but I'd rather Rishi remained PM than Starmer becoming PM
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 14, 2023 17:33:04 GMT
The outcome of the by elections will be pivotal in determining who wins the election next year. If Keir Starmer doesn't win Uxbridge and South Ruislip then I don't think he's PM potential, it's an important marginal seat. The corruption of the SNP and the Tories means that it has opened a huge window of opportunity for Labour to take advantage. Starmer please. This guy has scored more own goals than I can count. I don't rate a person who doesn't know what they stand for. He knows what he stands for. The difference is that Starmer, like most opposition leaders would have outlandish and unrealistic promises to get the government to budge on certain policies, or to attempt to cause a swing in an election where they have no chance. Now it's very realistic Labour could form the next government, the policies need to be made realistic.
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