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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 29, 2023 20:00:49 GMT
As a resident of the Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency I keep getting these silly leaflets through my door from silly political parties. The most absurd one so far is the Rejoin EU party! Can't they accept that Brexit has happened and we're not going to suddenly rejoin the EU. The problem with these parties is that they focus on national issues in a local election! They're claiming that people who voted for Brexit are racists - got nothing to do with local elections. They don't have any chance of winning though.
Then there's the Labour party who will use this constituency to Sadiq Khan's advantage so if Labour do will win they'll claim that the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip support Ulez. Labour also want to close down Uxbridge police station which is ridiculous! Personally hope that Labour don't win, hopefully it will be a wake up call for Sadiq Khan if Labour don't win the by election that no one wants ULEZ
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Post by vjaska on Jun 30, 2023 1:27:36 GMT
As a resident of the Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency I keep getting these silly leaflets through my door from silly political parties. The most absurd one so far is the Rejoin EU party! Can't they accept that Brexit has happened and we're not going to suddenly rejoin the EU. The problem with these parties is that they focus on national issues in a local election! They're claiming that people who voted for Brexit are racists - got nothing to do with local elections. They don't have any chance of winning though. Then there's the Labour party who will use this constituency to Sadiq Khan's advantage so if Labour do will win they'll claim that the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip support Ulez. Labour also want to close down Uxbridge police station which is ridiculous! Personally hope that Labour don't win, hopefully it will be a wake up call for Sadiq Khan if Labour don't win the by election that no one wants ULEZ A general election will have no effect on the mayoral race otherwise Khan wouldn't of ever got into power. London leans more towards Labour these days due to the changing demographic which is evident by the mount of Tory controlled areas lost over the last decade compared to Labour areas. The Tories mini crisis over selecting the mayoral candidate, barring Paul Scully (even though I can't stand him) & then the business with one candidate having to withdraw over groping allegations is simply making it easier for Khan to get back in - right now, I think he will easily win which is a shame as I'll be voting for an independent candidate once again as neither Khan nor any Tory candidate gets it regarding what London needs.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 2, 2023 10:08:34 GMT
With the by-elections at Uxbridge & South Ruislip, Selby & Ainsty and Somerton & Frome all due the same day - July 20th - this has been predicted to be the first time a governing party will lose 3 by-elections on the same day.
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Post by londonbuschannel on Jul 2, 2023 10:31:08 GMT
With the by-elections at Uxbridge & South Ruislip, Selby & Ainsty and Somerton & Frome all due the same day - July 20th - this has been predicted to be the first time a governing party will lose 3 by-elections on the same day. To be a bit Geeky, this would be the (i think?) second time, with the 1968 Acton, Meriden and Dudley by-elections being Conservative Gains during the Premiership of Harold Wilson
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Post by TB123 on Jul 2, 2023 10:35:45 GMT
With the by-elections at Uxbridge & South Ruislip, Selby & Ainsty and Somerton & Frome all due the same day - July 20th - this has been predicted to be the first time a governing party will lose 3 by-elections on the same day. To be a bit Geeky, this would be the (i think?) second time, with the 1968 Acton, Meriden and Dudley by-elections being Conservative Gains during the Premiership of Harold Wilson Correct. I have been out canvassing in Uxbridge about eight times since the by-election was called. The response for Labour is good and Danny Beales the candidate, is very good - very personable, works hard and has a good life story. All three I expect will be down to the wire and highly marginal results.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 2, 2023 10:41:10 GMT
With the by-elections at Uxbridge & South Ruislip, Selby & Ainsty and Somerton & Frome all due the same day - July 20th - this has been predicted to be the first time a governing party will lose 3 by-elections on the same day. To be a bit Geeky, this would be the (i think?) second time, with the 1968 Acton, Meriden and Dudley by-elections being Conservative Gains during the Premiership of Harold Wilson You may well be right, although this was before my time politically. Despite the polls now putting Labour so far ahead, they tend not to gain as many votes as the polls would suggest. While I think they will win at Uxbridge and the LibDems at Frome, I think the Tories could hang on at Selby.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 2, 2023 15:30:39 GMT
As a resident of the Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency I keep getting these silly leaflets through my door from silly political parties. The most absurd one so far is the Rejoin EU party! Can't they accept that Brexit has happened and we're not going to suddenly rejoin the EU. The problem with these parties is that they focus on national issues in a local election! They're claiming that people who voted for Brexit are racists - got nothing to do with local elections. They don't have any chance of winning though. Then there's the Labour party who will use this constituency to Sadiq Khan's advantage so if Labour do will win they'll claim that the people of Uxbridge and South Ruislip support Ulez. Labour also want to close down Uxbridge police station which is ridiculous! Personally hope that Labour don't win, hopefully it will be a wake up call for Sadiq Khan if Labour don't win the by election that no one wants ULEZ A general election will have no effect on the mayoral race otherwise Khan wouldn't of ever got into power. London leans more towards Labour these days due to the changing demographic which is evident by the mount of Tory controlled areas lost over the last decade compared to Labour areas. The Tories mini crisis over selecting the mayoral candidate, barring Paul Scully (even though I can't stand him) & then the business with one candidate having to withdraw over groping allegations is simply making it easier for Khan to get back in - right now, I think he will easily win which is a shame as I'll be voting for an independent candidate once again as neither Khan nor any Tory candidate gets it regarding what London needs. I could not see anyone beating Khan of the current candidates; I could be wrong. One person as an independent I would have love to see run against Khan is Jeremy Corbin.
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 2, 2023 15:32:26 GMT
To be a bit Geeky, this would be the (i think?) second time, with the 1968 Acton, Meriden and Dudley by-elections being Conservative Gains during the Premiership of Harold Wilson Correct. I have been out canvassing in Uxbridge about eight times since the by-election was called. The response for Labour is good and Danny Beales the candidate, is very good - very personable, works hard and has a good life story. All three I expect will be down to the wire and highly marginal results. the thing I don't like about Beales is his support of Ulez. If Labour wins, Khan can use that in his favour to claim that Uxbridge is pro Ulez. But I agree that it will be close
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Post by TB123 on Jul 2, 2023 15:44:23 GMT
Correct. I have been out canvassing in Uxbridge about eight times since the by-election was called. The response for Labour is good and Danny Beales the candidate, is very good - very personable, works hard and has a good life story. All three I expect will be down to the wire and highly marginal results. the thing I don't like about Beales is his support of Ulez. If Labour wins, Khan can use that in his favour to claim that Uxbridge is pro Ulez. But I agree that it will be close Beales is not in support of the current iteration of ULEZ, wanting a more generous scrappage scheme. That's the right approach - no serious politician would ignore the serious issue of dirty air.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 2, 2023 15:57:42 GMT
the thing I don't like about Beales is his support of Ulez. If Labour wins, Khan can use that in his favour to claim that Uxbridge is pro Ulez. But I agree that it will be close Beales is not in support of the current iteration of ULEZ, wanting a more generous scrappage scheme. That's the right approach - no serious politician would ignore the serious issue of dirty air. They have called Heathrow ... No matter what you do there air quality will be bad. I actually regularly check my local air quality and most of the time it come up green, good air quality. The dirtiest air in London is on the Tube, what is our Mayor doing about that. That costs him money to fix, and dosent bring a revenue stream, so guess what he not interested in that ... so he goes on about the numbers dying, which is all amde up, just one person in London has had their death attributed to air pollution as cause, but is doing nothing to clean up the tube.
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Post by rif153 on Jul 2, 2023 16:33:09 GMT
To be a bit Geeky, this would be the (i think?) second time, with the 1968 Acton, Meriden and Dudley by-elections being Conservative Gains during the Premiership of Harold Wilson You may well be right, although this was before my time politically. Despite the polls now putting Labour so far ahead, they tend not to gain as many votes as the polls would suggest. While I think they will win at Uxbridge and the LibDems at Frome, I think the Tories could hang on at Selby. Wouldn't be surprised if the Tories sneak back in because the anti tory vote is split in Selby and Ainsty. I think Conservative morale is so low at the moment that many members have virtually accepted defeat in Uxbridge. However the Tories probably could win it if they make it a referendum on ULEZ. A different tier of government I know but I understand the Tory council in Hillingdon is popular locally, with people happy at the quality of services - whilst Ealing's Labour council is utterly abysmal. Uxbridge hasn't had a Labour MP since 1966 but demographic change and unpopularity of the Tory government mean I expect that to change in a few weeks time.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 2, 2023 16:38:00 GMT
Beales is not in support of the current iteration of ULEZ, wanting a more generous scrappage scheme. That's the right approach - no serious politician would ignore the serious issue of dirty air. They have called Heathrow ... No matter what you do there air quality will be bad. I actually regularly check my local air quality and most of the time it come up green, good air quality. The dirtiest air in London is on the Tube, what is our Mayor doing about that. That costs him money to fix, and dosent bring a revenue stream, so guess what he not interested in that ... so he goes on about the numbers dying, which is all amde up, just one person in London has had their death attributed to air pollution as cause, but is doing nothing to clean up the tube. Well said, trouble is no one wants to tackle it as it is in effect a greenwash form of transportation. The tube is highly polluted and train unions have complained about this for years. One thing laughable is the pathetic ULEZ expansion advert on TV even showing a parrot with it for cleaner air. It is a bloody joke, after all, so if you go on this basis, the area now covered within the North & South Circular roads should contain the best air in the capital with parrots flying around etc. IT SURELY IS WORST
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 2, 2023 19:03:59 GMT
They have called Heathrow ... No matter what you do there air quality will be bad. I actually regularly check my local air quality and most of the time it come up green, good air quality. The dirtiest air in London is on the Tube, what is our Mayor doing about that. That costs him money to fix, and dosent bring a revenue stream, so guess what he not interested in that ... so he goes on about the numbers dying, which is all amde up, just one person in London has had their death attributed to air pollution as cause, but is doing nothing to clean up the tube. Well said, trouble is no one wants to tackle it as it is in effect a greenwash form of transportation. The tube is highly polluted and train unions have complained about this for years. One thing laughable is the pathetic ULEZ expansion advert on TV even showing a parrot with it for cleaner air. It is a bloody joke, after all, so if you go on this basis, the area now covered within the North & South Circular roads should contain the best air in the capital with parrots flying around etc. IT SURELY IS WORST We've already got parrots flying around, not sure what that ad was even aiming at. The ULEZ expansion is good in its concept, get rid of the highest polluting cars. Although the question now becomes what's being done about other means of pollution? Sadiq can wage war on motorists, but where is all the fuss about the smokers who go around spewing cancer fumes to everyone and force themselves into a bus stop just to then force everyone else out? Bus stops are no smoking zones but there's pretty much zero enforcement on any of that. Where is all the fuss about all the industrial areas in London where factories pollute? Heck, where is all the fuss about littering? Not to mention more people here are killed by knife crime than by pollution (although that's also a fault of Central government too). I understand the ULEZ, but I don't understand why it's being introduced as a ridiculous cash grab exercise. TfL know that people have no option but to pay which will bring them in the money. The Superloop is nowhere to be seen apart from some useless renumbering so far, and where are all the other improvements? How are all the local business owners meant to get around with such useless bus networks in outer London? If someone wants to do a job in Havering Park and then needs to get to Rainham are they really going to have to lug it on two bus routes there, with a potential 20 minute total wait in-between. Khan knows Labour will win again, unfortunately he's a PR machine. The amount of popularity he's gaining from attending events all the time and promoting equality is second to none now. The Tories have shot themselves in the foot with this whole mayoral selection scandal now and I can imagine Sadiq is having the best sleeps ever and barely worrying about the election he'll soon have to fight because it'll be a walk in the park for him. The best hope is that this is blocked in the courts, or at least having some strict conditions placed on it prior to its introduction such as a full Superloop network in operation and notable improvements in bus services.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 2, 2023 21:26:50 GMT
Well said, trouble is no one wants to tackle it as it is in effect a greenwash form of transportation. The tube is highly polluted and train unions have complained about this for years. One thing laughable is the pathetic ULEZ expansion advert on TV even showing a parrot with it for cleaner air. It is a bloody joke, after all, so if you go on this basis, the area now covered within the North & South Circular roads should contain the best air in the capital with parrots flying around etc. IT SURELY IS WORST We've already got parrots flying around, not sure what that ad was even aiming at. The ULEZ expansion is good in its concept, get rid of the highest polluting cars. Although the question now becomes what's being done about other means of pollution? Sadiq can wage war on motorists, but where is all the fuss about the smokers who go around spewing cancer fumes to everyone and force themselves into a bus stop just to then force everyone else out? Bus stops are no smoking zones but there's pretty much zero enforcement on any of that. Where is all the fuss about all the industrial areas in London where factories pollute? Heck, where is all the fuss about littering? Not to mention more people here are killed by knife crime than by pollution (although that's also a fault of Central government too). I understand the ULEZ, but I don't understand why it's being introduced as a ridiculous cash grab exercise. TfL know that people have no option but to pay which will bring them in the money. The Superloop is nowhere to be seen apart from some useless renumbering so far, and where are all the other improvements? How are all the local business owners meant to get around with such useless bus networks in outer London? If someone wants to do a job in Havering Park and then needs to get to Rainham are they really going to have to lug it on two bus routes there, with a potential 20 minute total wait in-between. Khan knows Labour will win again, unfortunately he's a PR machine. The amount of popularity he's gaining from attending events all the time and promoting equality is second to none now. The Tories have shot themselves in the foot with this whole mayoral selection scandal now and I can imagine Sadiq is having the best sleeps ever and barely worrying about the election he'll soon have to fight because it'll be a walk in the park for him. The best hope is that this is blocked in the courts, or at least having some strict conditions placed on it prior to its introduction such as a full Superloop network in operation and notable improvements in bus services. The Tory mayoral candidate the last couple of times has been absolutely awful. Frankly irrespective of political inclinations sadiq needs to be booted out owing to his horrifically poor track record i everything apart from giving grandiose PR speeches. One half decent candidate from conservatives / Lib Dem and they would win hands down. Instead we get candidates who are so awful one can’t vote for them
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 2, 2023 21:34:12 GMT
We've already got parrots flying around, not sure what that ad was even aiming at. The ULEZ expansion is good in its concept, get rid of the highest polluting cars. Although the question now becomes what's being done about other means of pollution? Sadiq can wage war on motorists, but where is all the fuss about the smokers who go around spewing cancer fumes to everyone and force themselves into a bus stop just to then force everyone else out? Bus stops are no smoking zones but there's pretty much zero enforcement on any of that. Where is all the fuss about all the industrial areas in London where factories pollute? Heck, where is all the fuss about littering? Not to mention more people here are killed by knife crime than by pollution (although that's also a fault of Central government too). I understand the ULEZ, but I don't understand why it's being introduced as a ridiculous cash grab exercise. TfL know that people have no option but to pay which will bring them in the money. The Superloop is nowhere to be seen apart from some useless renumbering so far, and where are all the other improvements? How are all the local business owners meant to get around with such useless bus networks in outer London? If someone wants to do a job in Havering Park and then needs to get to Rainham are they really going to have to lug it on two bus routes there, with a potential 20 minute total wait in-between. Khan knows Labour will win again, unfortunately he's a PR machine. The amount of popularity he's gaining from attending events all the time and promoting equality is second to none now. The Tories have shot themselves in the foot with this whole mayoral selection scandal now and I can imagine Sadiq is having the best sleeps ever and barely worrying about the election he'll soon have to fight because it'll be a walk in the park for him. The best hope is that this is blocked in the courts, or at least having some strict conditions placed on it prior to its introduction such as a full Superloop network in operation and notable improvements in bus services. The Tory mayoral candidate the last couple of times has been absolutely awful. Frankly irrespective of political inclinations sadiq needs to be booted out owing to his horrifically poor track record i everything apart from giving grandiose PR speeches. One half decent candidate from conservatives / Lib Dem and they would win hands down. Instead we get candidates who are so awful one can’t vote for them I think it all comes down to where the electorate lie when it comes to an election. London is a city on the left, so as you say may lean more towards the Liberal Democrats as they are closer in view to Labour on the left. An interesting piece of data that would be interesting to see is the combination of first and second preferences last time. How many people voted for Khan first choice, Bailey second choice and vice versa. It would show us whether people vote just because they're the two biggest parties or whether people take into consideration other local issues and what party is the second closest on the political spectrum. That said the second options may have been joke votes from some people. Would be interesting to also see who Niko voters second choices were.
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