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Post by greenboy on Aug 25, 2022 16:02:22 GMT
You forgot Wimbledon Bus Station. Not sure if Ruislip counts? There's also Uxbridge And I certainly wouldn't call East Croydon a bus station nor a few others that are listed. |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 25, 2022 16:35:42 GMT
Just for a bit of fun, I tried to research how many bus stations there are in London served by TfL routes. I came up with the following. Good points above about Vauxhall and Walthamstow being well laid out and of course both adjacent to LU, coincidentally both of course Victoria Line - Apart from Vauxhall and Walthamstow I've also a soft-spot for the bus stations that have been around 'for ever' e.g. Victoria, Turnpike Lane, Aldgate, Hounslow and of course Heathrow Central. Busiest in terms of bus movements? I guess Stratford, Edgware, West Croydon and Harrow. Addington Village Interchange Aldgate Bus Station Beckton Bus Station Becontree Heath Bus Station Brent Cross Shopping Centre Canada Water Bus Station Canning Town Bus Station Crystal Palace Bus Station East Croydon Bus Station Edgware Bus Station Edmonton Green Bus Station Eltham Bus Station Finsbury Park Interchange Grove Park Bus Station Hammersmith Bus Station Harrow Bus Station Heathrow Central Bus Station Hounslow Bus Station Cromwell Road Bus Station Fairfield Road Bus Station Mortlake Bus Station North Finchley Bus Station Orpington Bus Station Peckham Bus Station Prince Regent Bus Station Richmond Bus Station Stratford Bus Station Stratford City Bus Station Totteham Hale Bus Station Turnpike Lane Bus Station Vauxhall Bus Station Victoria Bus Station Walthamstow Bus Station West Croydon Bus Station White City Bus Station Mortlake and Eltham the only ones to have single decks only |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 25, 2022 16:36:36 GMT
Just for a bit of fun, I tried to research how many bus stations there are in London served by TfL routes. I came up with the following. Good points above about Vauxhall and Walthamstow being well laid out and of course both adjacent to LU, coincidentally both of course Victoria Line - Apart from Vauxhall and Walthamstow I've also a soft-spot for the bus stations that have been around 'for ever' e.g. Victoria, Turnpike Lane, Aldgate, Hounslow and of course Heathrow Central. Busiest in terms of bus movements? I guess Stratford, Edgware, West Croydon and Harrow. Addington Village Interchange Aldgate Bus Station Beckton Bus Station Becontree Heath Bus Station Brent Cross Shopping Centre Canada Water Bus Station Canning Town Bus Station Crystal Palace Bus Station East Croydon Bus Station Edgware Bus Station Edmonton Green Bus Station Eltham Bus Station Finsbury Park Interchange Grove Park Bus Station Hammersmith Bus Station Harrow Bus Station Heathrow Central Bus Station Hounslow Bus Station Cromwell Road Bus Station Fairfield Road Bus Station Mortlake Bus Station North Finchley Bus Station Orpington Bus Station Peckham Bus Station Prince Regent Bus Station Richmond Bus Station Stratford Bus Station Stratford City Bus Station Totteham Hale Bus Station Turnpike Lane Bus Station Vauxhall Bus Station Victoria Bus Station Walthamstow Bus Station West Croydon Bus Station White City Bus Station You also missed: - Liverpool Street bus station - North Greenwich bus station |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 25, 2022 17:23:27 GMT
A number of the so called bus stations listed aren’t bus stations in my eyes. One of the ones listed doesn’t even exist anymore
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Post by abellion on Aug 25, 2022 20:00:52 GMT
Vauxhall has always been the best one in London personally - everything laid out relatively nicely and good connection to Underground & Rail. Walthamstow is a good one too It would be 100% perfect if Lewisham bound 436s didn’t have to loop all the way around twice |
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Post by frank on Aug 25, 2022 20:45:05 GMT
Just for a bit of fun, I tried to research how many bus stations there are in London served by TfL routes. I came up with the following. Good points above about Vauxhall and Walthamstow being well laid out and of course both adjacent to LU, coincidentally both of course Victoria Line - Apart from Vauxhall and Walthamstow I've also a soft-spot for the bus stations that have been around 'for ever' e.g. Victoria, Turnpike Lane, Aldgate, Hounslow and of course Heathrow Central. Busiest in terms of bus movements? I guess Stratford, Edgware, West Croydon and Harrow. Addington Village Interchange Aldgate Bus Station Beckton Bus Station Becontree Heath Bus Station Brent Cross Shopping Centre Canada Water Bus Station Canning Town Bus Station Crystal Palace Bus Station East Croydon Bus Station Edgware Bus Station Edmonton Green Bus Station Eltham Bus Station Finsbury Park Interchange Grove Park Bus Station Hammersmith Bus Station Harrow Bus Station Heathrow Central Bus Station Hounslow Bus Station Cromwell Road Bus Station Fairfield Road Bus Station Mortlake Bus Station North Finchley Bus Station Orpington Bus Station Peckham Bus Station Prince Regent Bus Station Richmond Bus Station Stratford Bus Station Stratford City Bus Station Totteham Hale Bus Station Turnpike Lane Bus Station Vauxhall Bus Station Victoria Bus Station Walthamstow Bus Station West Croydon Bus Station White City Bus Station Interesting list. Familiar with most of the bus stations, but not all. Can you still consider Becontree Heath a "bus station" since the development works and the relocation? Isn't it a "bus stand" nowadays instead as I don't believe buses pick up passengers from the new location? Which brings me to a point... Stupid question alert.... but what does the forum consider definition of a "Bus station"? Is it somewhere whereby buses both stand and pickup passengers? If so, does Ilford Roden Street constitute to a "bus station"? |
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Post by CircleLineofLife on Aug 25, 2022 20:49:46 GMT
Stratford Bus station is a bad bus station in London because it’s too busy and not a Stand Space for all routes I don’t understand how a bus station can be bad because it’s busy - it shows it’s being used which is one of the main purposes of a bus station There is Stratford and Stratford City bus statio. Stratford City not as many routes. Relatively quiet though compared to Stratford bus station. |
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Post by CircleLineofLife on Aug 25, 2022 20:52:20 GMT
You forgot Wimbledon Bus Station. Not sure if Ruislip counts? There's also Uxbridge I dont know if i would call ruislip a bus station, i think it would just be the station forecourt. But Uxbridge, i would say so like garage/station hybrid. But you could argue that its a forecourt as well. |
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Post by snowman on Aug 25, 2022 20:55:08 GMT
Just for a bit of fun, I tried to research how many bus stations there are in London served by TfL routes. I came up with the following. Good points above about Vauxhall and Walthamstow being well laid out and of course both adjacent to LU, coincidentally both of course Victoria Line - Apart from Vauxhall and Walthamstow I've also a soft-spot for the bus stations that have been around 'for ever' e.g. Victoria, Turnpike Lane, Aldgate, Hounslow and of course Heathrow Central. Busiest in terms of bus movements? I guess Stratford, Edgware, West Croydon and Harrow. Addington Village Interchange Aldgate Bus Station Beckton Bus Station Becontree Heath Bus Station Brent Cross Shopping Centre Canada Water Bus Station Canning Town Bus Station Crystal Palace Bus Station East Croydon Bus Station Edgware Bus Station Edmonton Green Bus Station Eltham Bus Station Finsbury Park Interchange Grove Park Bus Station Hammersmith Bus Station Harrow Bus Station Heathrow Central Bus Station Hounslow Bus Station Cromwell Road Bus Station Fairfield Road Bus Station Mortlake Bus Station North Finchley Bus Station Orpington Bus Station Peckham Bus Station Prince Regent Bus Station Richmond Bus Station Stratford Bus Station Stratford City Bus Station Totteham Hale Bus Station Turnpike Lane Bus Station Vauxhall Bus Station Victoria Bus Station Walthamstow Bus Station West Croydon Bus Station White City Bus Station Interesting list. Familiar with most of the bus stations, but not all. Can you still consider Becontree Heath a "bus station" since the development works and the relocation? Isn't it a "bus stand" nowadays instead as I don't believe buses pick up passengers from the new location? Which brings me to a point... Stupid question alert.... but what does the forum consider definition of a "Bus station"? Is it somewhere whereby buses both stand and pickup passengers? If so, does Ilford Roden Street constitute to a "bus station"? Yes some of them might be called bus station, but they are more a set of stands. I believe historically a bus station was where you could board or alight and interchange with other routes. Some in the list, eg Richmond, Kingston Fairfield are only really stands with stops on the road outside, you cannot get on or off a bus within the station. If passengers cannot enter or exit the premises on a bus then in my view it is a stand not a station. In same way you wouldn’t call an airfield with no passenger facilities an airport, a bus parking area without passengers is not a bus station. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 25, 2022 22:04:48 GMT
Interesting list. Familiar with most of the bus stations, but not all. Can you still consider Becontree Heath a "bus station" since the development works and the relocation? Isn't it a "bus stand" nowadays instead as I don't believe buses pick up passengers from the new location? Which brings me to a point... Stupid question alert.... but what does the forum consider definition of a "Bus station"? Is it somewhere whereby buses both stand and pickup passengers? If so, does Ilford Roden Street constitute to a "bus station"? Yes some of them might be called bus station, but they are more a set of stands. I believe historically a bus station was where you could board or alight and interchange with other routes. Some in the list, eg Richmond, Kingston Fairfield are only really stands with stops on the road outside, you cannot get on or off a bus within the station. If passengers cannot enter or exit the premises on a bus then in my view it is a stand not a station. In same way you wouldn’t call an airfield with no passenger facilities an airport, a bus parking area without passengers is not a bus station. Strictly speaking the Oxford English Dictionary defines a bus station as a place in town where buses arrive and depart. So Fairfield and indeed all of those listed would fit that category. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 25, 2022 22:31:37 GMT
Interesting list. Familiar with most of the bus stations, but not all. Can you still consider Becontree Heath a "bus station" since the development works and the relocation? Isn't it a "bus stand" nowadays instead as I don't believe buses pick up passengers from the new location? Which brings me to a point... Stupid question alert.... but what does the forum consider definition of a "Bus station"? Is it somewhere whereby buses both stand and pickup passengers? If so, does Ilford Roden Street constitute to a "bus station"? Yes some of them might be called bus station, but they are more a set of stands. I believe historically a bus station was where you could board or alight and interchange with other routes. Some in the list, eg Richmond, Kingston Fairfield are only really stands with stops on the road outside, you cannot get on or off a bus within the station. If passengers cannot enter or exit the premises on a bus then in my view it is a stand not a station. In same way you wouldn’t call an airfield with no passenger facilities an airport, a bus parking area without passengers is not a bus station. Adding to that, I would say it counts as a bus station if it is directly served by all routes in that area. For example, Golders Green is really just a series of bus stands. Through routes like the 13 stop nearby on the main road rather than looping through the station forecourt. However nearby Brent Cross is directly served by the 112/232/324 so is a more effective interchange. Similarly, Harrow and Edgware are good examples, with some routes making a double run to stop there. |
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 26, 2022 0:14:45 GMT
Yes some of them might be called bus station, but they are more a set of stands. I believe historically a bus station was where you could board or alight and interchange with other routes. Some in the list, eg Richmond, Kingston Fairfield are only really stands with stops on the road outside, you cannot get on or off a bus within the station. If passengers cannot enter or exit the premises on a bus then in my view it is a stand not a station. In same way you wouldn’t call an airfield with no passenger facilities an airport, a bus parking area without passengers is not a bus station. Adding to that, I would say it counts as a bus station if it is directly served by all routes in that area. For example, Golders Green is really just a series of bus stands. Through routes like the 13 stop nearby on the main road rather than looping through the station forecourt. However nearby Brent Cross is directly served by the 112/232/324 so is a more effective interchange. Similarly, Harrow and Edgware are good examples, with some routes making a double run to stop there. It's probably difficult to come up with a clear definition with no exceptions. I agree that Kingston's Fairfield doesn't seem like a 'proper' bus station since the only stops are out on the road, however Golders Green has several stops for departures spread throughout the site so to me does count even though it is only used by terminating services. Some bus stations simply don't have the space to handle all routes in the immediate area, and similar can be found outside of London - such as Cambridge's Drummer Street. There and in other provincial cities a bus station may be served by terminating and/or interurban routes, while the rest simply stop on roads outside. Back in London, the 168 runs down the side of Euston without entering the bus station while routes such as the 73 only serve it in one direction. Therefore I just tend to stick to official names, and so I would call Fairfield a bus station despite the above. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 26, 2022 2:33:57 GMT
A number of the so called bus stations listed aren’t bus stations in my eyes. One of the ones listed doesn’t even exist anymore One of those in my opinion is East Croydon Bus Station. It’s more like an interchange |
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Post by borneobus on Aug 26, 2022 5:23:05 GMT
Adding to that, I would say it counts as a bus station if it is directly served by all routes in that area. For example, Golders Green is really just a series of bus stands. Through routes like the 13 stop nearby on the main road rather than looping through the station forecourt. However nearby Brent Cross is directly served by the 112/232/324 so is a more effective interchange. Similarly, Harrow and Edgware are good examples, with some routes making a double run to stop there. It's probably difficult to come up with a clear definition with no exceptions. I agree that Kingston's Fairfield doesn't seem like a 'proper' bus station since the only stops are out on the road, however Golders Green has several stops for departures spread throughout the site so to me does count even though it is only used by terminating services. Some bus stations simply don't have the space to handle all routes in the immediate area, and similar can be found outside of London - such as Cambridge's Drummer Street. There and in other provincial cities a bus station may be served by terminating and/or interurban routes, while the rest simply stop on roads outside. Back in London, the 168 runs down the side of Euston without entering the bus station while routes such as the 73 only serve it in one direction. Therefore I just tend to stick to official names, and so I would call Fairfield a bus station despite the above. Re definition, I should have explained that my rationale to include a location as a “Bus Station” on the list was based on TfL designating bus stop(s) that included the name “Bus Station”. Accordingly, Ruislip, Uxbridge and Golders Green are not included for that reason. However, I did include “Interchanges” and Brent Cross Shopping Centre as that does ‘feel’ like a bus station. Interesting to see all the comments, I missed Wimbledon Bus Station – thanks for that. According to TfL online maps Becontree Bus Station still ‘exists’ as a bus stop but no TfL services currently using. I agree – East Croydon doesn’t feel like a bus station! At least it didn’t when I used it recently for a ride on EL1 on the 119. Mortlake and Eltham – good point re single-deckers only – Mortlake may also be the quietest ‘bus station’ in London. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 26, 2022 6:57:56 GMT
It's probably difficult to come up with a clear definition with no exceptions. I agree that Kingston's Fairfield doesn't seem like a 'proper' bus station since the only stops are out on the road, however Golders Green has several stops for departures spread throughout the site so to me does count even though it is only used by terminating services. Some bus stations simply don't have the space to handle all routes in the immediate area, and similar can be found outside of London - such as Cambridge's Drummer Street. There and in other provincial cities a bus station may be served by terminating and/or interurban routes, while the rest simply stop on roads outside. Back in London, the 168 runs down the side of Euston without entering the bus station while routes such as the 73 only serve it in one direction. Therefore I just tend to stick to official names, and so I would call Fairfield a bus station despite the above. Re definition, I should have explained that my rationale to include a location as a “Bus Station” on the list was based on TfL designating bus stop(s) that included the name “Bus Station”. Accordingly, Ruislip, Uxbridge and Golders Green are not included for that reason. However, I did include “Interchanges” and Brent Cross Shopping Centre as that does ‘feel’ like a bus station. Interesting to see all the comments, I missed Wimbledon Bus Station – thanks for that. According to TfL online maps Becontree Bus Station still ‘exists’ as a bus stop but no TfL services currently using. I agree – East Croydon doesn’t feel like a bus station! At least it didn’t when I used it recently for a ride on EL1 on the 119. Mortlake and Eltham – good point re single-deckers only – Mortlake may also be the quietest ‘bus station’ in London. I'd say East Croydon is more of a bus station than Mortlake. Mortlake is just a turn around with a bus stop |
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