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Post by vjaska on Feb 1, 2023 1:36:56 GMT
Which is why I still operators will order the BYD ones given they will be more familiar with them and some will have already built decent numbers up not to mention they come in more acceptable lengths for TfL operation Depends how highly the BYD/ADL product is regarded. Previously, the competition was just Switch which did not work ... maybe the BYD/ADL product is not all that operators desire.It is no longer the only product that works. But how well? Of course that will play a part but despite the fact ADL/BYD had a huge volume of orders, others were still flocking to them over Switch unless there was the need for a shorter length vehicle which the Metrodecker meets unlike the BYD currently. I don't think Stagecoach will deviate away whilst Go-Ahead has a large number already - it remains to be seen whether Arriva go for more EA's and what Abellio & Metroline, the latter which I suspect will switch to a dual order model of BZL's & Electroliners anyway given their history of Wrightbus & Volvo products. |
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Post by WLT892 on Mar 26, 2023 20:02:24 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 26, 2023 20:18:55 GMT
I assume the new E100 replaces the current Enviro 200 range? Smart looking buses, be interesting go see who places first orders in London  |
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 26, 2023 20:24:35 GMT
I assume the new E100 replaces the current Enviro 200 range? Smart looking buses, be interesting go see who places first orders in London Eventually probably but both ranges will be offered simultaneously for now. |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 26, 2023 20:46:40 GMT
I assume the new E100 replaces the current Enviro 200 range? Smart looking buses, be interesting go see who places first orders in London There is meant to be an all ADL E200EV at some point in the future, can't see the E100EV getting bigger, only smaller. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Mar 27, 2023 11:48:16 GMT
Here was the ADL presser from when the order was placed:
Here are some photos of the production batch. HK bus fans aren't too sure what the bus in your link is for given that it has KMB-spec but isn't in a green livery.
HK bus fans are happy that something other than mainland-Chinese electrics are being trialed. The only double decker electric (from an obscure mainland brand) in operation so far in HK hasn't been very convincing. BYD are also selling integral products there too and a number of single deckers have been put into service whilst the double decker equivalent is still undergoing testing before entering revenue service.
I do wonder if the HK market pushed ADL to manufacture their own integral EVs. The E500EV was announced much earlier than the rest of the new products. BYD was also scooping up the HK single decker trials/orders as I don't think it would be cost effective to order ADL/BYD bodywork given that mainland China is next door. The HK market is massive and I don't think ADL could've missed out on it.
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Post by snowman on Apr 5, 2023 14:31:29 GMT
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Post by cardinal on Apr 6, 2023 7:43:41 GMT
One of these was seen at FW about a month ago. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Apr 22, 2023 1:20:11 GMT
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Post by TB123 on May 2, 2023 10:26:57 GMT
As expected the new generation products will not be available for TfL delivery until 2024. And someone should tell ADL that the part of Parliament Square pictured in the CGI is two-way for cyclists only 😂😉
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Post by SILENCED on May 2, 2023 10:31:41 GMT
As expected the new generation products will not be available for TfL delivery until 2024. And someone should tell ADL that the part of Parliament Square pictured in the CGI is two-way for cyclists only 😂😉 These new buses won't need to go fast in London, the latest zero emission tech is pedal power. The job of a London bus driver is about the become more demanding! 🤣😂 |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 2, 2023 10:55:42 GMT
Will be interesting to see which operators go for the new ADL EV range. Potentially orders could be placed quite soon, as tenders due to be awarded are mostly for early 2024 start dates.
Go Ahead and RATP both seem to be favouring ADL for all orders - will they go for the new version, or continue with BYDs for standardisation?
The other four major operators have all gone with Wright for their most recent orders, although Stagecoach have already placed an order for the new E400EV for outside of London. And Abellio don't seem particularly loyal to one manufacturer yet, so they might be interested too?
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Post by SILENCED on May 2, 2023 11:06:56 GMT
Will be interesting to see which operators go for the new ADL EV range. Potentially orders could be placed quite soon, as tenders due to be awarded are mostly for early 2024 start dates. Go Ahead and RATP both seem to be favouring ADL for all orders - will they go for the new version, or continue with BYDs for standardisation? The other four major operators have all gone with Wright for their most recent orders, although Stagecoach have already placed an order for the new E400EV for outside of London. And Abellio don't seem particularly loyal to one manufacturer yet, so they might be interested too? RATP has not really ordered anything since the diversification of orders commenced ... so I don't think we can confidently say that. It is an unknown. GAL yeah, and given the number of orders they are currently placing, a good customer for ADL to have/keep. |
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Post by TB123 on May 2, 2023 11:10:14 GMT
Will be interesting to see which operators go for the new ADL EV range. Potentially orders could be placed quite soon, as tenders due to be awarded are mostly for early 2024 start dates. Go Ahead and RATP both seem to be favouring ADL for all orders - will they go for the new version, or continue with BYDs for standardisation? The other four major operators have all gone with Wright for their most recent orders, although Stagecoach have already placed an order for the new E400EV for outside of London. And Abellio don't seem particularly loyal to one manufacturer yet, so they might be interested too? RATP is under new management now so there could well be the possibility of some different orders going forward plus the electric bus market has changed considerably since they last ordered vehicles with lots of new options |
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Post by TB123 on Nov 1, 2023 13:23:56 GMT
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