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Post by ThinLizzy on Dec 12, 2023 19:07:03 GMT
This bus SL1 is a joke!! Bus driver take too long to takeover and I was waiting for more than 30 minutes at Walthamsow central then it go slow along the road. Bus 34 seem caught up with us. I had put forward complaint to TfL about poor performance of SL1. Bus drivers need speed it up!!! As much as I respect Roger French, and many of his opinions and insights, I think the were a few sets of exceptional circumstances affecting the SL1 on the morning he travelled on the route. I'm sure without the accident and roadworks the SL1 will be a bit quicker. It's only on Day 4 of operation, I hope that things do get better over time. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 19:14:20 GMT
This bus SL1 is a joke!! Bus driver take too long to takeover and I was waiting for more than 30 minutes at Walthamsow central then it go slow along the road. Bus 34 seem caught up with us. I had put forward complaint to TfL about poor performance of SL1. Bus drivers need speed it up!!! Let's calm down a bit. I have taken the bus multiple times and the route has been fine. They do have a valid point of the relief point being mid-route, it's an express route, the contract price should've included the additional cost of the drivers travelling to/from North Finchley from the garage. |
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Post by DT 11 on Dec 12, 2023 19:32:49 GMT
Let's calm down a bit. I have taken the bus multiple times and the route has been fine. They do have a valid point of the relief point being mid-route, it's an express route, the contract price should've included the additional cost of the drivers travelling to/from North Finchley from the garage. There is no way that will happen when it passes the garage. However taking forever to changeover is a bit much… in addition AD are new to HAs. |
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Post by lonmark on Dec 12, 2023 19:36:23 GMT
I apologize to you all, I guess I just had a bad day today with all the horrible roadwork and traffic didn't help on both routes SL1 and SL10.
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 12, 2023 19:40:25 GMT
This bus SL1 is a joke!! Bus driver take too long to takeover and I was waiting for more than 30 minutes at Walthamsow central then it go slow along the road. Bus 34 seem caught up with us. I had put forward complaint to TfL about poor performance of SL1. Bus drivers need speed it up!!! As much as I respect Roger French, and many of his opinions and insights, I think the were a few sets of exceptional circumstances affecting the SL1 on the morning he travelled on the route. I'm sure without the accident and roadworks the SL1 will be a bit quicker. It's only on Day 4 of operation, I hope that things do get better over time. He fully acknowledges that fact in his report. But he isn’t wrong, perhaps if TfL had done some research they could have delayed the introduction by a week to ensure it started with the best opportunity. It’s hardly a good look if three buses in a row turn early. |
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Post by greenboy on Dec 12, 2023 19:45:46 GMT
Let's calm down a bit. I have taken the bus multiple times and the route has been fine. They do have a valid point of the relief point being mid-route, it's an express route, the contract price should've included the additional cost of the drivers travelling to/from North Finchley from the garage. That's a good point, I thought the 607 ran far more efficiently from UX than it does now from G with time consuming midroute changeovers. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Dec 12, 2023 20:07:09 GMT
I apologize to you all, I guess I just had a bad day today with all the horrible roadwork and traffic didn't help on both routes SL1 and SL10. It's all good. The NCR can be troublesome at times. Buses like the 112, 232, 34, 102 and 173 to name a few suffer the same fate when it goes down |
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Post by busman on Dec 12, 2023 20:46:05 GMT
They do have a valid point of the relief point being mid-route, it's an express route, the contract price should've included the additional cost of the drivers travelling to/from North Finchley from the garage. That's a good point, I thought the 607 ran far more efficiently from UX than it does now from G with time consuming midroute changeovers. An extra stop was added to the 607 at Iron Bridge solely to facilitate driver changeovers. Absolute joke. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 12, 2023 21:53:07 GMT
That's a good point, I thought the 607 ran far more efficiently from UX than it does now from G with time consuming midroute changeovers. An extra stop was added to the 607 at Iron Bridge solely to facilitate driver changeovers. Absolute joke. Interestingly I remember reading similar on the SL2's response to issues raised. Something brought up was the removal of the Chapel Road stop (Presumably whoever raised that doesn't want people one stop hopping from Ilford to Barking) and TFL responded saying that the stop was required for driver changeovers. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Dec 12, 2023 21:58:35 GMT
An extra stop was added to the 607 at Iron Bridge solely to facilitate driver changeovers. Absolute joke. Interestingly I remember reading similar on the SL2's response to issues raised. Something brought up was the removal of the Chapel Road stop (Presumably whoever raised that doesn't want people one stop hopping from Ilford to Barking) and TFL responded saying that the stop was required for driver changeovers. Interesting that driver change overs are being done in Ilford rather than Barking. There's not much in the way of driver facilities at Chapel Road, apart from a toilet on the stand |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 12, 2023 22:02:01 GMT
Interestingly I remember reading similar on the SL2's response to issues raised. Something brought up was the removal of the Chapel Road stop (Presumably whoever raised that doesn't want people one stop hopping from Ilford to Barking) and TFL responded saying that the stop was required for driver changeovers. Interesting that driver change overs are being done in Ilford rather than Barking. There's not much in the way of driver facilities at Chapel Road, apart from a toilet on the stand I wonder if TfL engaged with potential operators prior to introduction. It'll probably be collusion if TfL knew that Arriva were to win the route this early on so I'd imagine they approached all potential bidders and asked where changeovers would take place and one of them which may not have been Arriva chose Ilford. That said I do wonder whether there's space for another route to changeover in Barking. The 5 has Barking Town Centre and upon GAL taking the 366 the changeover stop was moved to North Street, the 368 changes at Broadway theatre. I do dread to think if they add another changeover somewhere in the middle of all this. |
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Post by rift on Dec 12, 2023 23:37:00 GMT
SL3 will be using LTs, with its service commencing from 24th February 2024. Greenwich will now have a daytime LT route, and it means that all South London boroughs apart from Sutton and Croydon will have at least one regular route with them allocated. Surprised the area didn’t see any conversions sooner. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 13, 2023 0:42:31 GMT
As much as I respect Roger French, and many of his opinions and insights, I think the were a few sets of exceptional circumstances affecting the SL1 on the morning he travelled on the route. I'm sure without the accident and roadworks the SL1 will be a bit quicker. It's only on Day 4 of operation, I hope that things do get better over time. He fully acknowledges that fact in his report. But he isn’t wrong, perhaps if TfL had done some research they could have delayed the introduction by a week to ensure it started with the best opportunity. It’s hardly a good look if three buses in a row turn early. Problem is there is so much roadworks in the area. There was roadworks on the A406 at New Southgate westbound where everything went into one lane. Bounds Green station four way temporary traffic lights at the junction and another set of temporary lights in Brownlow Rd. It bought the whole area to a standstill in the morning and evening peaks with delays on many routes hitting 1 hour or more. Trouble is these roadworks were not planned, burst water mains apparently (well according to Thames Water) |
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Post by redexpress on Dec 13, 2023 7:15:15 GMT
Interesting that driver change overs are being done in Ilford rather than Barking. There's not much in the way of driver facilities at Chapel Road, apart from a toilet on the stand I wonder if TfL engaged with potential operators prior to introduction. It'll probably be collusion if TfL knew that Arriva were to win the route this early on so I'd imagine they approached all potential bidders and asked where changeovers would take place and one of them which may not have been Arriva chose Ilford. That said I do wonder whether there's space for another route to changeover in Barking. The 5 has Barking Town Centre and upon GAL taking the 366 the changeover stop was moved to North Street, the 368 changes at Broadway theatre. I do dread to think if they add another changeover somewhere in the middle of all this. There was only one bidder for the SL2. Once this fact became clear I suppose TfL would have been free to discuss such details with Arriva. Not sure how the tendering timescale matched up with the consultation timescale, but at least we know there were no unsuccessful bidders who would have been discriminated against. |
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Post by TB123 on Dec 15, 2023 11:57:33 GMT
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