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Post by WH241 on May 30, 2023 19:35:54 GMT
Phillip Schofield dropped as Prince's Trust ambassador
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 30, 2023 22:13:15 GMT
Phillip Schofield dropped as Prince's Trust ambassador
Think this cancel culture thing has gone a bit too far, not just with Scofield but with many other people. I would have understand if he went jail, but there has not been anything of it. |
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Post by vjaska on May 31, 2023 0:31:17 GMT
Phillip Schofield dropped as Prince's Trust ambassador Think this cancel culture thing has gone a bit too far, not just with Scofield but with many other people. I would have understand if he went jail, but there has not been anything of it. Given the admittance of having an affair with a teenager, albeit legally thus far, I don't think he could expect to continue being an ambassador for a charity that primarily focuses on supporting young people into education, employment and enterprise. Also, he can't go to jail unless it's proven that the person was below 16 which currently, no one has proof for. So far, for me, the right punishment has been handed out - if further details come out that are even more damaging, then I'm sure my view will change. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 1, 2023 11:54:00 GMT
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Post by richard on Jun 1, 2023 13:03:36 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 2, 2023 7:13:25 GMT
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 2, 2023 23:23:53 GMT
The article suggests that Phillip first had sexual contact with the boy when he was aged 20, suggesting that he didn't do anything illegal. However he said that homophobia was a factor in why people disapproved of the relationship and it wouldn't be a scandal if it was between a man and a woman. I think that this is a very weak excuse, and surely it would be worse if he groomed a young girl? (FYI I don't think that grooming a young boy is less serious but it's the way that British society thinks about this is that it is worse if a male perpetrator grooms a female victim) He does say he's sorry and whilst I'm for forgiveness, consequences have actions. He chose to act like that and repeatedly deny it, now he has to face the facts that his television contracts have been stripped away from him and he and his family will face online abuse. I feel bad for his daughters because everyone will know what their father and uncle have done. So far it doesn't look like Phillip has broken the law however the boy is yet to tell his side of the story I also think that some people on the internet are hounding him too much, it's similar to the Caroline Flack case where they both did something controversial people should be careful what they write about others on the internet. You never know how people will feel and this doesn't just go towards Philip but regarding anyone in general. I don't approve of Phillip's affair nor his lying but he doesn't deserve to be treated with online abuse |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 3, 2023 1:50:27 GMT
The article suggests that Phillip first had sexual contact with the boy when he was aged 20, suggesting that he didn't do anything illegal. However he said that homophobia was a factor in why people disapproved of the relationship and it wouldn't be a scandal if it was between a man and a woman. I think that this is a very weak excuse, and surely it would be worse if he groomed a young girl? (FYI I don't think that grooming a young boy is less serious but it's the way that British society thinks about this is that it is worse if a male perpetrator grooms a female victim) He does say he's sorry and whilst I'm for forgiveness, consequences have actions. He chose to act like that and repeatedly deny it, now he has to face the facts that his television contracts have been stripped away from him and he and his family will face online abuse. I feel bad for his daughters because everyone will know what their father and uncle have done. So far it doesn't look like Phillip has broken the law however the boy is yet to tell his side of the story I also think that some people on the internet are hounding him too much, it's similar to the Caroline Flack case where they both did something controversial people should be careful what they write about others on the internet. You never know how people will feel and this doesn't just go towards Philip but regarding anyone in general. I don't approve of Phillip's affair nor his lying but he doesn't deserve to be treated with online abuse I've watched the interview and I actually think he is telling the truth about when the relationship happened - usually when someone lies, I can't trust them to tell the truth about anything else but my gut was telling me that something was different, especially around the way he was in the interview - he could be acting of course but I'm not sure and I'm not interested in any rumours anyway, only facts. Still doesn't change the fact it was a stupid thing to do which he acknowledges in the interview and he has also acknowledged his career is as good as dead though I actually think someone lower down the chain will pick him up - when cretin's like Richard Keys can still get a job on TV, albeit abroad in the Gulf states, someone might take a chance on Schofield. The whole pile on that you mention is what annoys me about this story - whilst it's been a reasonable debate on here which makes a change, elsewhere it's anything but particularly with certain celebrities thinking they need to but in including the GB News interview between Holmes who has indulged in 5G conspiracy theories and Dan Wootten, a odious ex Sun gossip columnist who is regularly found spouting pure nonsense on Twitter about anything and everything including yet more conspiracy theories and also, Kerry Katona, who is hardly an angel herself lets remember. Given Schofield said in the interview that if not for his daughters, he wouldn't be here (i.e. ended it all), it is rather becoming like Caroline Flack to a degree. Society nowadays seems to think it can do what it wants be it the pile on like this or the whole thing surrounding Anthony Taylor in the airport - two very different situations but each one showcasing the toxic nature of modern society |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 3, 2023 7:39:46 GMT
The article suggests that Phillip first had sexual contact with the boy when he was aged 20, suggesting that he didn't do anything illegal. However he said that homophobia was a factor in why people disapproved of the relationship and it wouldn't be a scandal if it was between a man and a woman. I think that this is a very weak excuse, and surely it would be worse if he groomed a young girl? (FYI I don't think that grooming a young boy is less serious but it's the way that British society thinks about this is that it is worse if a male perpetrator grooms a female victim) He does say he's sorry and whilst I'm for forgiveness, consequences have actions. He chose to act like that and repeatedly deny it, now he has to face the facts that his television contracts have been stripped away from him and he and his family will face online abuse. I feel bad for his daughters because everyone will know what their father and uncle have done. So far it doesn't look like Phillip has broken the law however the boy is yet to tell his side of the story I also think that some people on the internet are hounding him too much, it's similar to the Caroline Flack case where they both did something controversial people should be careful what they write about others on the internet. You never know how people will feel and this doesn't just go towards Philip but regarding anyone in general. I don't approve of Phillip's affair nor his lying but he doesn't deserve to be treated with online abuse I've watched the interview and I actually think he is telling the truth about when the relationship happened - usually when someone lies, I can't trust them to tell the truth about anything else but my gut was telling me that something was different, especially around the way he was in the interview - he could be acting of course but I'm not sure and I'm not interested in any rumours anyway, only facts. Still doesn't change the fact it was a stupid thing to do which he acknowledges in the interview and he has also acknowledged his career is as good as dead though I actually think someone lower down the chain will pick him up - when cretin's like Richard Keys can still get a job on TV, albeit abroad in the Gulf states, someone might take a chance on Schofield. The whole pile on that you mention is what annoys me about this story - whilst it's been a reasonable debate on here which makes a change, elsewhere it's anything but particularly with certain celebrities thinking they need to but in including the GB News interview between Holmes who has indulged in 5G conspiracy theories and Dan Wootten, a odious ex Sun gossip columnist who is regularly found spouting pure nonsense on Twitter about anything and everything including yet more conspiracy theories and also, Kerry Katona, who is hardly an angel herself lets remember. Given Schofield said in the interview that if not for his daughters, he wouldn't be here (i.e. ended it all), it is rather becoming like Caroline Flack to a degree. Society nowadays seems to think it can do what it wants be it the pile on like this or the whole thing surrounding Anthony Taylor in the airport - two very different situations but each one showcasing the toxic nature of modern society Some of the comments online are disgusting. They say that's he's using suicidal thoughts as a way to attract sympathy. What he did was wrong but he shouldn't be abused online. He has a wife and two kids who care about him. Something people should never tell a suicidal person is that they're making it up. It could push Phillip over the edge. Really hope it doesn't end up like Caroline Flack, the media hounded her too much to the point where she couldn't take it anymore. I hope Phillip takes some time out of broadcasting to reflect on his life and hopefully come back as a better man and possibly come back to television if that's what he wants |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 3, 2023 10:08:35 GMT
I've watched the interview and I actually think he is telling the truth about when the relationship happened - usually when someone lies, I can't trust them to tell the truth about anything else but my gut was telling me that something was different, especially around the way he was in the interview - he could be acting of course but I'm not sure and I'm not interested in any rumours anyway, only facts. Still doesn't change the fact it was a stupid thing to do which he acknowledges in the interview and he has also acknowledged his career is as good as dead though I actually think someone lower down the chain will pick him up - when cretin's like Richard Keys can still get a job on TV, albeit abroad in the Gulf states, someone might take a chance on Schofield. The whole pile on that you mention is what annoys me about this story - whilst it's been a reasonable debate on here which makes a change, elsewhere it's anything but particularly with certain celebrities thinking they need to but in including the GB News interview between Holmes who has indulged in 5G conspiracy theories and Dan Wootten, a odious ex Sun gossip columnist who is regularly found spouting pure nonsense on Twitter about anything and everything including yet more conspiracy theories and also, Kerry Katona, who is hardly an angel herself lets remember. Given Schofield said in the interview that if not for his daughters, he wouldn't be here (i.e. ended it all), it is rather becoming like Caroline Flack to a degree. Society nowadays seems to think it can do what it wants be it the pile on like this or the whole thing surrounding Anthony Taylor in the airport - two very different situations but each one showcasing the toxic nature of modern society Some of the comments online are disgusting. They say that's he's using suicidal thoughts as a way to attract sympathy. What he did was wrong but he shouldn't be abused online. He has a wife and two kids who care about him. Something people should never tell a suicidal person is that they're making it up. It could push Phillip over the edge. Really hope it doesn't end up like Caroline Flack, the media hounded her too much to the point where she couldn't take it anymore. I hope Phillip takes some time out of broadcasting to reflect on his life and hopefully come back as a better man and possibly come back to television if that's what he wants The issue is broadcasters can't just take time out, especially someone as high profile as Philip Schofield is. What is he meant to do? Then what happens if he can never get a job with the media again? Most normal people can have a career change without batting an eyelid but Philip probably couldn't just put in an application to work at the local supermarket, or work for the businesses in Canary Wharf because no company would want to take him on, potentially for his history and also for the stir having a celebrity working would cause amongst the workforce. The money will stop coming in eventually, he needs to pay for his security too. Can you imagine him not having security during a time like this? What he did was wrong and this is escalating very quickly indeed the way he is being treated. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 3, 2023 11:03:46 GMT
I've watched the interview and I actually think he is telling the truth about when the relationship happened - usually when someone lies, I can't trust them to tell the truth about anything else but my gut was telling me that something was different, especially around the way he was in the interview - he could be acting of course but I'm not sure and I'm not interested in any rumours anyway, only facts. Still doesn't change the fact it was a stupid thing to do which he acknowledges in the interview and he has also acknowledged his career is as good as dead though I actually think someone lower down the chain will pick him up - when cretin's like Richard Keys can still get a job on TV, albeit abroad in the Gulf states, someone might take a chance on Schofield. The whole pile on that you mention is what annoys me about this story - whilst it's been a reasonable debate on here which makes a change, elsewhere it's anything but particularly with certain celebrities thinking they need to but in including the GB News interview between Holmes who has indulged in 5G conspiracy theories and Dan Wootten, a odious ex Sun gossip columnist who is regularly found spouting pure nonsense on Twitter about anything and everything including yet more conspiracy theories and also, Kerry Katona, who is hardly an angel herself lets remember. Given Schofield said in the interview that if not for his daughters, he wouldn't be here (i.e. ended it all), it is rather becoming like Caroline Flack to a degree. Society nowadays seems to think it can do what it wants be it the pile on like this or the whole thing surrounding Anthony Taylor in the airport - two very different situations but each one showcasing the toxic nature of modern society Some of the comments online are disgusting. They say that's he's using suicidal thoughts as a way to attract sympathy. What he did was wrong but he shouldn't be abused online. He has a wife and two kids who care about him. Something people should never tell a suicidal person is that they're making it up. It could push Phillip over the edge. Really hope it doesn't end up like Caroline Flack, the media hounded her too much to the point where she couldn't take it anymore. I hope Phillip takes some time out of broadcasting to reflect on his life and hopefully come back as a better man and possibly come back to television if that's what he wants He is nothing like Caroline Flack so perhaps we can stop using the comparison. She didn’t give any interviews, didn’t get any opportunities to offer her side of the story and her only defence was family and friends giving comments to numerous stories. Schofield at every opportunity has been allowed to control the narrative which Caroline Flack didn’t have. Schofield deserves everything he gets as he groomed a child then waited until he was legal to sleep with him. He got him job after job and deliberately mislead his employer/colleagues/agency on the entire ordeal. He is nothing like Caroline Flack. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 3, 2023 14:32:32 GMT
Some of the comments online are disgusting. They say that's he's using suicidal thoughts as a way to attract sympathy. What he did was wrong but he shouldn't be abused online. He has a wife and two kids who care about him. Something people should never tell a suicidal person is that they're making it up. It could push Phillip over the edge. Really hope it doesn't end up like Caroline Flack, the media hounded her too much to the point where she couldn't take it anymore. I hope Phillip takes some time out of broadcasting to reflect on his life and hopefully come back as a better man and possibly come back to television if that's what he wants He is nothing like Caroline Flack so perhaps we can stop using the comparison. She didn’t give any interviews, didn’t get any opportunities to offer her side of the story and her only defence was family and friends giving comments to numerous stories. Schofield at every opportunity has been allowed to control the narrative which Caroline Flack didn’t have. Schofield deserves everything he gets as he groomed a child then waited until he was legal to sleep with him. He got him job after job and deliberately mislead his employer/colleagues/agency on the entire ordeal. He is nothing like Caroline Flack. what I said was I don't want to see Phillip end up like Caroline Flack not that he is like her. I'm not trying to defend either as both did potentially criminal offences. Her death was tragic but this doesn't mean she did nothing wrong. Would you have defended her if she didn't die and instead was prosecuted for her actions? Would you think differently about Phillip if he did chose to end his own life |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 3, 2023 14:48:02 GMT
He is nothing like Caroline Flack so perhaps we can stop using the comparison. She didn’t give any interviews, didn’t get any opportunities to offer her side of the story and her only defence was family and friends giving comments to numerous stories. Schofield at every opportunity has been allowed to control the narrative which Caroline Flack didn’t have. Schofield deserves everything he gets as he groomed a child then waited until he was legal to sleep with him. He got him job after job and deliberately mislead his employer/colleagues/agency on the entire ordeal. He is nothing like Caroline Flack. what I said was I don't want to see Phillip end up like Caroline Flack not that he is like her. I'm not trying to defend either as both did potentially criminal offences. Her death was tragic but this doesn't mean she did nothing wrong. Would you have defended her if she didn't die and instead was prosecuted for her actions? Would you think differently about Phillip if he did chose to end his own life I wouldn’t defend Caroline Flack as everyone seems to have forgotten that at 32 she dated then 17 years Harry Styles, which not technically illegal carries the same predatory nature as this current Schofield story. I would however defend the fact that she was never given an opportunity to respond to the negativity by the media and never given the opportunity to give her story in a flashy front page story or BBC prime time special. Even her alleged victim didn’t support her alleged crime and only wanted to be treated as a witness rather than a victim of crime. As for thinking differently about Schofield if he died, I really wouldn’t. Like many predators before him he has cemented his position and it’s too late to save his career. To even claim the media hounding is homophobic just shows how ignorant and arrogant he really is. If he had just met the guy on the set and they fell in love, fine, but adding everything else on top is why the issue exists and why the public are so interested. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 3, 2023 14:52:08 GMT
Some of the comments online are disgusting. They say that's he's using suicidal thoughts as a way to attract sympathy. What he did was wrong but he shouldn't be abused online. He has a wife and two kids who care about him. Something people should never tell a suicidal person is that they're making it up. It could push Phillip over the edge. Really hope it doesn't end up like Caroline Flack, the media hounded her too much to the point where she couldn't take it anymore. I hope Phillip takes some time out of broadcasting to reflect on his life and hopefully come back as a better man and possibly come back to television if that's what he wants He is nothing like Caroline Flack so perhaps we can stop using the comparison. She didn’t give any interviews, didn’t get any opportunities to offer her side of the story and her only defence was family and friends giving comments to numerous stories. Schofield at every opportunity has been allowed to control the narrative which Caroline Flack didn’t have. Schofield deserves everything he gets as he groomed a child then waited until he was legal to sleep with him. He got him job after job and deliberately mislead his employer/colleagues/agency on the entire ordeal. He is nothing like Caroline Flack. TBF, I don't think he has said explicitly that Flack and Schofield are the same (they aren't in any case) but the pile on after the event does echo the same as what happened to Flack after the domestic incident and I don't think it's in anyone's interests for someone to even contemplate suicide yet along do it otherwise society is in a very, very dark place and not something I wish to be associated with or be a part of. I'm not interested in any unconfirmed parts such as grooming or getting him job after job (people are entitled to think that way though especially when someone has already lied) - what we know so far is what I will personally base it on which is the relationship & misleading everyone over it which for me, thus far, the punishments he has had are reasonable with his TV career pretty much over & dropped from the Princes Trust - if more, far worse things come to light such as the ones you mention, then that will need to be revised which is why I'll wait for the investigation to conclude and see what it finds and see if my mind is changed or not. In the meantime, I'm tired of the media pile on anytime something happens - speaking to GB News Dan Wootton, a known conspiracy theorist on Twitter, by other ITV presenters/guests who have laid out preposterous conspiracy theories live on ITV daytime programs during the pandemic, should not be used as a reference of integrity & truth and yet this seems to be happening - yet we wouldn't use QANON & Trump as a similar reference would we nor would we use a failed reality TV star with a well documented history of trouble like Kerry Katona as some sort of reference point either. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Jun 3, 2023 18:23:47 GMT
what I said was I don't want to see Phillip end up like Caroline Flack not that he is like her. I'm not trying to defend either as both did potentially criminal offences. Her death was tragic but this doesn't mean she did nothing wrong. Would you have defended her if she didn't die and instead was prosecuted for her actions? Would you think differently about Phillip if he did chose to end his own life I wouldn’t defend Caroline Flack as everyone seems to have forgotten that at 32 she dated then 17 years Harry Styles, which not technically illegal carries the same predatory nature as this current Schofield story. I would however defend the fact that she was never given an opportunity to respond to the negativity by the media and never given the opportunity to give her story in a flashy front page story or BBC prime time special. Even her alleged victim didn’t support her alleged crime and only wanted to be treated as a witness rather than a victim of crime. As for thinking differently about Schofield if he died, I really wouldn’t. Like many predators before him he has cemented his position and it’s too late to save his career. To even claim the media hounding is homophobic just shows how ignorant and arrogant he really is. If he had just met the guy on the set and they fell in love, fine, but adding everything else on top is why the issue exists and why the public are so interested. Yes I agree about him using the homophobia argument is silly. If he groomed a girl it's no different. Some of this is staged so that he wants people to think that he did no wrong. However rather than people ridicule the man, he should get some mental help so he can get into a better state of mind so he's not thinking about forming relationships with young adults |
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