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Post by LJ17THF on Jul 2, 2023 9:00:25 GMT
Arriva operated the 465 between 2007 and 2009 from HM, presumably their Horsham base, before they handed the route to Metrobus, who operated it from their Crawley base until 2012, when Quality Line won the route.
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Post by TB123 on Jul 2, 2023 9:05:09 GMT
Arriva operated the 465 between 2007 and 2009 from HM, presumably their Horsham base, before they handed the route to Metrobus, who operated it from their Crawley base until 2012, when Quality Line won the route. Yes the 465 ran from Warnham garage. There are still a small handful of exArriva 465 drivers at Crawley depot!
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Post by northlondon83 on Jul 2, 2023 9:10:36 GMT
The borough of Bromley barely holds any Abellio routes. The 3 and the 322 barely enters the borough at Crystal Palace. The 367 has a significant chunk through Bromley and Beckenham whilst the 464 also serves Biggin Hill. The 363 will soon join the 3 and 322 however they both feel like Southwark or Lambeth routes. Then you've got Lewisham which has the P13 at New Cross Gate. You also had the 343 there, plus the 484 at Brockley and Lewisham, and the 172 between New Cross and Brockley Rise
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 2, 2023 10:05:43 GMT
The X26 as GAL. GAL only operate routes on half of its route. Abellio and RATP operate routes throughout the majority of the route. To be honest, anyone apart from Abellio operating the X26 would be classed as an odd. Arriva don't have any routes on the western end of the route, nor do Metroline or RATP now. Abellio run the most routes along the X26's route apart from in the Sutton/Worcester Park area.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 2, 2023 10:22:09 GMT
The X26 as GAL. GAL only operate routes on half of its route. Abellio and RATP operate routes throughout the majority of the route. To be honest, anyone apart from Abellio operating the X26 would be classed as an odd. Arriva don't have any routes on the western end of the route, nor do Metroline or RATP now. Abellio run the most routes along the X26's route apart from in the Sutton/Worcester Park area. Even Abellio missing from Sutton seems to be an accident due to remarkably efficient bidding by GA. Routes 154 & 213 could have been easy wins from BC & TF for example, space permitting at the time.
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Post by TB123 on Jul 2, 2023 10:28:18 GMT
To be honest, anyone apart from Abellio operating the X26 would be classed as an odd. Arriva don't have any routes on the western end of the route, nor do Metroline or RATP now. Abellio run the most routes along the X26's route apart from in the Sutton/Worcester Park area. Even Abellio missing from Sutton seems to be an accident due to remarkably efficient bidding by GA. Routes 154 & 213 could have been easy wins from BC & TF for example, space permitting at the time. Apparently it was Abellio who were the lowest bidder for the 154 last time around but GAL did, as you say, a very efficient joint bid for the whole area which made perfect sense for TfL to pick
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Post by M1104 on Jul 2, 2023 10:28:36 GMT
One of the strangest I ever saw was in the early '90s with the 176 along Oxford Street operated by London & Country.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 2, 2023 11:09:20 GMT
Tellings Golden Miller which i believe had a base around Heathrow ran the S3. Whilst I didn't know it at the time it probably wasn't a massive surprise when in 2000 it passed to EB with the lovely cream ALX200 Darts. TGM ran the S3 from their home in Byfleet. It was their first London contract as an independent (they had previously run the 116 and 117 while they were part of the Drawlane / British Bus group). For the last six months of the contract it was operated from the short-lived base that Capital Logistics had set up in Beddington to run the 60. Once the S3 was lost that base was closed down, with the 60 surrendered to Arriva.
Capital Logistics' attempt to run the 60 was itself in oddball territory. When they were awarded the contract they were based in West Drayton! There were plenty of other operators who were awarded work way outside of their usual area. Some were more successful than others, e.g. Centrewest winning the Orpington network, and Kentish Bus picking up work in Hackney.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jul 2, 2023 11:16:28 GMT
AV Scania's in Central London on the N9!
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Post by tooting395 on Jul 2, 2023 11:22:03 GMT
Tellings Golden Miller which i believe had a base around Heathrow ran the S3. Whilst I didn't know it at the time it probably wasn't a massive surprise when in 2000 it passed to EB with the lovely cream ALX200 Darts. TGM ran the S3 from their home in Byfleet. It was their first London contract as an independent (they had previously run the 116 and 117 while they were part of the Drawlane / British Bus group). For the last six months of the contract it was operated from the short-lived base that Capital Logistics had set up in Beddington to run the 60. Once the S3 was lost that base was closed down, with the 60 surrendered to Arriva.
Capital Logistics' attempt to run the 60 was itself in oddball territory. When they were awarded the contract they were based in West Drayton! There were plenty of other operators who were awarded work way outside of their usual area. Some were more successful than others, e.g. Centrewest winning the Orpington network, and Kentish Bus picking up work in Hackney. TGM operating the 726 all the way out to Bromley also fits this. What garage was the 726 operated from?
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Post by TB123 on Jul 2, 2023 11:23:40 GMT
TGM ran the S3 from their home in Byfleet. It was their first London contract as an independent (they had previously run the 116 and 117 while they were part of the Drawlane / British Bus group). For the last six months of the contract it was operated from the short-lived base that Capital Logistics had set up in Beddington to run the 60. Once the S3 was lost that base was closed down, with the 60 surrendered to Arriva.
Capital Logistics' attempt to run the 60 was itself in oddball territory. When they were awarded the contract they were based in West Drayton! There were plenty of other operators who were awarded work way outside of their usual area. Some were more successful than others, e.g. Centrewest winning the Orpington network, and Kentish Bus picking up work in Hackney. TGM operating the 726 all the way out to Bromley also fits this. What garage was the 726 operated from? Twickenham, the present Abellio TF base.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 2, 2023 11:35:26 GMT
TGM ran the S3 from their home in Byfleet. It was their first London contract as an independent (they had previously run the 116 and 117 while they were part of the Drawlane / British Bus group). For the last six months of the contract it was operated from the short-lived base that Capital Logistics had set up in Beddington to run the 60. Once the S3 was lost that base was closed down, with the 60 surrendered to Arriva.
Capital Logistics' attempt to run the 60 was itself in oddball territory. When they were awarded the contract they were based in West Drayton! There were plenty of other operators who were awarded work way outside of their usual area. Some were more successful than others, e.g. Centrewest winning the Orpington network, and Kentish Bus picking up work in Hackney. TGM operating the 726 all the way out to Bromley also fits this. What garage was the 726 operated from? TGM inherited the 726 when they took over Capital Logistics in 1999. At the time operation was split between West Drayton and Beddington, although CapLog had previously used bases in Belvedere and Crayford before moving into Beddington.
When the Beddington base was vacated in 2000, its share of the 726 was briefly operated from a base in Peckham (no idea where exactly). A few weeks later TGM moved into TF and concentrated all of their London work there, including the entire 726.
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Post by Catford94 on Jul 2, 2023 12:02:15 GMT
26 with stagecoach in Victoria really sticks out to to me I don't believe they have ever had a route in the area apart from the N136, happy to be corrected though.
Depends how far back you go. 185 was operated from Catford Garage until January 2001 when it went to Easylink. 36B became the 136 (which only ran as far west as Peckham) a few months before Selkent went to Stagecoach.
In terms of other odd operators -
A number of routes were operated by Boro' Line Maidstone in the late 80s / early 90s (although from bases in London, from memory there was one at Crayford and one in North Greenwich) including the 188 when it ran to Euston and the 108 when it went as far north as Wanstead.
Kentish Bus picked up some routes in east London in 1990, including 22B Homerton - Piccadilly Circus, run from a base in Leyton. (on re-reading, I see someone else had mentioned this.)
Tellings Golden Miller had route B14 in Bexleyheath (and some mobility bus routes in SE London) for a few years in the mid 00's, as a result of buying (at least some of) Crystals' operation.
East Midland's operation (under the 'Frontrunner' name) of a few LRT and Essex County Council routes in Romford and surrounding area in 1988-89 was probably one of the oddest - this did involve some drivers from Nottinghamshire working alternate weeks in Essex, and a Friday evening (northbound) and Sunday evening (southbound) express service that ran something like Romford - Worksop.
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Post by BK15AZR on Jul 2, 2023 12:27:38 GMT
Stagecoach on route P4 in Brixton. It would seem similarly odd if Arriva were to win it and thus reach Lewisham. Abellio on route 27 and previously route C2 have been odd. Metroline on route 295 seemed odd too. When the 1 goes to Hampstead it will seem odd to have GAL there. Alternatively if the 168 number was retained, having Metroline in Canada Water would have been strange. The 24 strikes me as odd being with Abellio but only for a small bit, at the Hampstead end To be fair GAL also operates the 88 and 214 which pass close to Hampstead Heath, while it once operated the 24 which terminates just across the road.
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Post by ronnie on Jul 2, 2023 12:34:41 GMT
E10 has to be strangest one of all time. 26 with stagecoach in Victoria really sticks out to to me I don't believe they have ever had a route in the area apart from the N136, happy to be corrected though. Stagecoach did operate the 53 for a very long time (and now the N53) till Whitehall and through Westminster bridge as well so not a million miles away from Victoria
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