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Post by kmkcheng on Aug 14, 2023 15:56:42 GMT
Couldn’t find original thread for the topic.
The route will be numbered 84B, starting on 3rd September, running on Monday to Saturday between Potters Bar and High Barnet. It will be operated by Galleon travel. Don’t have details on timetable or actual route
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 14, 2023 16:30:55 GMT
Couldn’t find original thread for the topic. The route will be numbered 84B, starting on 3rd September, running on Monday to Saturday between Potters Bar and High Barnet. It will be operated by Galleon travel. Don’t have details on timetable or actual route Let's hope its a success. If its every 30 mins it would probably need 2 buses so may just be able to sustain itself.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 14, 2023 16:44:39 GMT
Couldn’t find original thread for the topic. The route will be numbered 84B, starting on 3rd September, running on Monday to Saturday between Potters Bar and High Barnet. It will be operated by Galleon travel. Don’t have details on timetable or actual route Let's hope its a success. If its every 30 mins it would probably need 2 buses so may just be able to sustain itself. Guess it depends how long the funding is guaranteed for and if all those passengers how campaigned for the service actually use it!
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 14, 2023 17:48:13 GMT
Couldn’t find original thread for the topic. The route will be numbered 84B, starting on 3rd September, running on Monday to Saturday between Potters Bar and High Barnet. It will be operated by Galleon travel. Don’t have details on timetable or actual route Will it be run by tfl
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Post by kmkcheng on Aug 14, 2023 18:03:01 GMT
Couldn’t find original thread for the topic. The route will be numbered 84B, starting on 3rd September, running on Monday to Saturday between Potters Bar and High Barnet. It will be operated by Galleon travel. Don’t have details on timetable or actual route Will it be run by tfl No it’s a Hertsmere council funded service
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 14, 2023 18:22:27 GMT
No it’s a Hertsmere council funded service It was tendered by Hertfordshire County Council as the Local Transport Authority, although Hertsmere Borough Council is funding it. It will operate into Greater London under a LSP (London Service Permit). Galleon Travel is probably better known as Central Connect, the fleetname under which its buses operate. The operator has acquired no less than fourteen brand-new ADL Enviro200 MMCs for Hertfordshire contracted routes in the last two years so will have no problem finding vehicles that comply with the London ULEZ.
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 14, 2023 18:27:18 GMT
No it’s a Hertsmere council funded service It was tendered by Hertfordshire County Council as the Local Transport Authority, although Hertsmere Borough Council is funding it. Galleon Travel is probably better known as Central Connect, the fleetname under which its buses operate. The operator has acquired no less than fourteen brand-new ADL Enviro200 MMCs for Hertfordshire contracted routes in the last two years so will have no problem finding vehicles that comply with the London ULEZ. That's good. Hopefully they won't accept the 60+ Oyster card or the TFL zip card which may put a few more people in the fare paying bracket.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 14, 2023 18:33:01 GMT
It was tendered by Hertfordshire County Council as the Local Transport Authority, although Hertsmere Borough Council is funding it. Galleon Travel is probably better known as Central Connect, the fleetname under which its buses operate. The operator has acquired no less than fourteen brand-new ADL Enviro200 MMCs for Hertfordshire contracted routes in the last two years so will have no problem finding vehicles that comply with the London ULEZ. That's good. Hopefully they won't accept the 60+ Oyster card or the TFL zip card which may put a few more people in the fare paying bracket. It will operate under a LSP (I added that to my post after you had posted) so there is no obligation to accept any TfL tickets. The only one they are obliged to accept is the Freedom Pass as it acts as an ENCTS pass outside London.
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Post by VMH2537 on Aug 16, 2023 15:19:01 GMT
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Post by uakari on Aug 16, 2023 17:11:50 GMT
Let's hope its a success. If its every 30 mins it would probably need 2 buses so may just be able to sustain itself. Guess it depends how long the funding is guaranteed for and if all those passengers how campaigned for the service actually use it! It's once an hour and Hertsmere are providing a subsidy at least for a time. I'm still not quite clear on the precise routing but it looks like it maybe do the loop round Potters Bar clockwise while the new 84 does it anticlockwise. Then reversing in High Barnet via Underhill, Westcombe Drive and Fairfield Way to then go back up Wood Street to Barnet Hospital then back down then on to Hadley Highstone. I'm not entirely sure yet though. From the map here it might be serving the tube station twice, once before serving Barnet Hospital and once after? Yes that's what it looks like if you 'show all stops' on the timetable: bustimes.org/services/84b-barnet-hospital-potters-bar#mapThey have said they want to get a late evening and Sunday service afterwards.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 16, 2023 18:11:37 GMT
Guess it depends how long the funding is guaranteed for and if all those passengers how campaigned for the service actually use it! It's once an hour and Hertsmere are providing a subsidy at least for a time. I'm still not quite clear on the precise routing but it looks like it maybe do the loop round Potters Bar clockwise while the new 84 does it anticlockwise. Then reversing in High Barnet via Underhill, Westcombe Drive and Fairfield Way to then go back up Wood Street to Barnet Hospital then back down then on to Hadley Highstone. I'm not entirely sure yet though. From the map here it might be serving the tube station twice, once before serving Barnet Hospital and once after? Yes that's what it looks like if you 'show all stops' on the timetable: bustimes.org/services/84b-barnet-hospital-potters-bar#mapThey have said they want to get a late evening and Sunday service afterwards. I guess it's better than nothing.
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Post by kmkcheng on Aug 16, 2023 18:15:57 GMT
Guess it depends how long the funding is guaranteed for and if all those passengers how campaigned for the service actually use it! It's once an hour and Hertsmere are providing a subsidy at least for a time. I'm still not quite clear on the precise routing but it looks like it maybe do the loop round Potters Bar clockwise while the new 84 does it anticlockwise. Then reversing in High Barnet via Underhill, Westcombe Drive and Fairfield Way to then go back up Wood Street to Barnet Hospital then back down then on to Hadley Highstone. I'm not entirely sure yet though. From the map here it might be serving the tube station twice, once before serving Barnet Hospital and once after? Yes that's what it looks like if you 'show all stops' on the timetable: bustimes.org/services/84b-barnet-hospital-potters-bar#mapThey have said they want to get a late evening and Sunday service afterwards. After Barnet Hospital, it will still past High Barnet and turn back at Underhill before heading up to Hadley Highstone and Potters Bar
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Post by uakari on Aug 16, 2023 18:19:08 GMT
It's once an hour and Hertsmere are providing a subsidy at least for a time. I'm still not quite clear on the precise routing but it looks like it maybe do the loop round Potters Bar clockwise while the new 84 does it anticlockwise. Then reversing in High Barnet via Underhill, Westcombe Drive and Fairfield Way to then go back up Wood Street to Barnet Hospital then back down then on to Hadley Highstone. I'm not entirely sure yet though. From the map here it might be serving the tube station twice, once before serving Barnet Hospital and once after? Yes that's what it looks like if you 'show all stops' on the timetable: bustimes.org/services/84b-barnet-hospital-potters-bar#mapThey have said they want to get a late evening and Sunday service afterwards. After Barnet Hospital, it will still past High Barnet and turn back at Underhill before heading up to Hadley Highstone and Potters Bar Yes I see that now. Doing the tube station/Underhill loop twice, which makes more sense for people coming back from the tube to Hadley Highstone and Potters Bar, who are less likely to want to go all the way round the hospital first.
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Post by redbus on Aug 16, 2023 18:22:20 GMT
I wonder why they have chosen to call the route 84B and not 84A.
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 16, 2023 18:30:18 GMT
Guess it depends how long the funding is guaranteed for and if all those passengers how campaigned for the service actually use it! It's once an hour and Hertsmere are providing a subsidy at least for a time. I'm still not quite clear on the precise routing but it looks like it maybe do the loop round Potters Bar clockwise while the new 84 does it anticlockwise. Then reversing in High Barnet via Underhill, Westcombe Drive and Fairfield Way to then go back up Wood Street to Barnet Hospital then back down then on to Hadley Highstone. I'm not entirely sure yet though. From the map here it might be serving the tube station twice, once before serving Barnet Hospital and once after? Yes that's what it looks like if you 'show all stops' on the timetable: bustimes.org/services/84b-barnet-hospital-potters-bar#mapThey have said they want to get a late evening and Sunday service afterwards. The map they used is awful. The roads are very hard to see and not legible at all. Wished they used something like the maps that tfl use.
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