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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 3:46:04 GMT
Sadiq explicitly stated he won't introduce it I saw a flying pig and a blue moon What's the difference between a flying pig and a blue moon? There has never been a well-known song called Flying Pig.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 3:49:00 GMT
Sadiq explicitly stated he won't introduce it In May 21 Sadiq explicitly said he would not extend the ULEZ beyond the North/South Circular. In Jan 22 he announced he would be extending ULEZ to the whole of London. He has proved himself to be untrustworthy on multiple occassions. Now it seems there is a Project Detroit in place which is replacing street surveillance cameras. One of the requirements of the replacements system is it must be a able facilitate road usage charging. Why specify it, if you don't intend doing it? He might not have had much choice about ULEZ, if this was part of his settlement with government following Covid revenue losses for TfL.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 3:55:40 GMT
There was 0 talk of splitting up London prior to the election but suddenly those like SILENCED didn’t like the result and thus want the system changed to suit them. It’s astonishing that people can hold this view and so loudly as well. The FPTP system used in this mayoral election also made it harder for SK to win. It’s typical tory talk to even discuss changing the system when an election doesn’t go their way. When BJ won in 2012 I don’t recall discussion of a similar nature. SK won fairly and squarely (and no there wasn’t voter postal fraud) as some right wing individuals have suggested. Get over it. Bit hard to “get over it” when the worst mayor this city has ever had gets a third term to mess it up even more. Some of the media exclamation about Sadiq winning a historic 3rd term seems a bit overblown. We have only had the 7th London Mayor election. Although Ken was defeated in 2008, Boris stood down in 2016, meaning he could not have won a 3rd term anyway.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 4:02:17 GMT
17% of the share? Doesn’t equate to all Londoners, those who didn’t vote rightly or wrongly “didn’t vote for khan by not voting” they didn’t vote because of a lack of a good opposition which in truth shouldn’t have been that hard. Even so those who voted for him or didn’t vote at all no longer have the right to complain when crime hikes up again, new lines being named to appease lefty types or when things don’t change after three terms. I don't think anyone who voted for Khan will have many complaints when they played a part in keeping a far right candidate far away from power. Anyone who abstained had the power to remove Khan, but they didn't despite all polls showing that he would have a swimming victory. They didn't bother to show up which, if as you say, people are actually dissatisfied they should have and could potentially have made a change. What seems sad is when there is a high abstention rate because they doubt their vote would make a difference. If for example 30% of the electorate had for example voted Green instead of ignoring the election, London would have had a Green Mayor. Disclaimer : There were of course other candidates that abstainers could have voted for.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 4:05:41 GMT
What would you have done differently? From my perspective I don’t think any other individual country did that well in managing covid. I know people cite New Zealand as a success but they were effectively cut off from the rest of the world, foolishly shutting down everything with even a single case. It seems many New Zealanders were far from happy with their governments handling of the pandemic and let's be honest, every government in the world could have dealt with it better with the benefit of hindsight. Maybe not happy, but they were impressed by Jacinda Arhern's competence. She became the only Prime Minister to win a majority since proportional representation had been introduced.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 6, 2024 4:15:48 GMT
For me the ULEZ wasn't so much about stopping it tomorrow but more exposing how much it cost versus the small reduction in emissions. She didn't do that and therefore the message was irrelevant for probably close to 95% of drivers whose cars are already compliant. For me I didn't like the ULEZ as it effected so little vehicles and I think the money spent on scrappage schemes could have been spent on bringing fares genuinely down (£1 bus fare) to get people out of ALL cars with the temptation of cheaper public transport. absolutely agree, I'm hoping that, if Labour win the next General Election, public transport in London will see some real forward thinking policies and investment. I think most of Labour's initiatives will concern National Rail and bus franchising offered (but probably not imposed) for areas without Mayors. Where areas have Mayors, including London, I doubt a Labour government would intervene. They would let the Mayors decide transport policy, even Ben Houchen in Tees Valley.
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Post by vjaska on May 6, 2024 11:08:09 GMT
Please stop with these odd outbursts - ibus246 is entitled to vote for who he wants even if I don’t agree with that candidate, really no need to sound like your having a temper tantrum over it, surely none of are toddlers on here now? What you should really be doing is directing your anger towards Hall & the Tory party for either putting up a terrible candidate or for running a terrible campaign and the fact most of the people on here who don’t like Khan aren’t actually doing that baffles me. ibus246 has had a few outbursts just as bad, seems some are wearing rose tinted glasses Only because it started by the original person I quoted, nothing to do with wearing rose tinted glasses
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 6, 2024 11:19:29 GMT
At the expense of the NHS or what? We might get the superloopy routes but can't see Starmer pumping loads of money into London after that! Won't be a good look being London centric especially at the start of a new government (Assuming they win the GE).
I would much rather money is spent on the NHS and no more daft projects like naming train lines! £6 Million is 6 Million.
Not to discredit your point here but the NHS already receives £181+ billion a year so £6 million going towards solving another problem is hardly breaking the bank and is a drop in the ocean in comparison!
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Post by WH241 on May 6, 2024 11:47:11 GMT
We might get the superloopy routes but can't see Starmer pumping loads of money into London after that! Won't be a good look being London centric especially at the start of a new government (Assuming they win the GE).
I would much rather money is spent on the NHS and no more daft projects like naming train lines! £6 Million is 6 Million.
Not to discredit your point here but the NHS already receives £181+ billion a year so £6 million going towards solving another problem is hardly breaking the bank and is a drop in the ocean in comparison! The 6 million comment was more about wasting money on vanity projects.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 6, 2024 11:49:55 GMT
Not to discredit your point here but the NHS already receives £181+ billion a year so £6 million going towards solving another problem is hardly breaking the bank and is a drop in the ocean in comparison! The 6 million comment was more about wasting money on vanity projects. It's all politics, I think end of the day vanity projects are what do gain you momentum. Whatever people thought of Boris, the fact he introduced LTs everywhere did give him extreme amounts of attention, not to mention the dangelway too. The naming of Overground lines has gained Khan a lot of attention too, funnily enough many people online do support him in the naming, just not the names.
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 6, 2024 11:51:54 GMT
Not to discredit your point here but the NHS already receives £181+ billion a year so £6 million going towards solving another problem is hardly breaking the bank and is a drop in the ocean in comparison! The 6 million comment was more about wasting money on vanity projects. It could be interpreted that the names were in vain a little but untangling the network has been long overdue and it would have probably happened under someone else if not Khan. £6 million to make the Overground easier to navigate is not a vanity project
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 6, 2024 11:53:14 GMT
The 6 million comment was more about wasting money on vanity projects. It's all politics, I think end of the day vanity projects are what do gain you momentum. Whatever people thought of Boris, the fact he introduced LTs everywhere did give him extreme amounts of attention, not to mention the dangelway too. The naming of Overground lines has gained Khan a lot of attention too, funnily enough many people online do support him in the naming, just not the names. Yes much of the problem with the renaming of the Overground seems to come more from how they've been named and not from the separation of the network into individual lines which I see no problem with spending £6 million doing.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 6, 2024 12:45:13 GMT
It's all politics, I think end of the day vanity projects are what do gain you momentum. Whatever people thought of Boris, the fact he introduced LTs everywhere did give him extreme amounts of attention, not to mention the dangelway too. The naming of Overground lines has gained Khan a lot of attention too, funnily enough many people online do support him in the naming, just not the names. Yes much of the problem with the renaming of the Overground seems to come more from how they've been named and not from the separation of the network into individual lines which I see no problem with spending £6 million doing. I agree. The Lioness line could just have easily been the Stadium line to reflect that Wembley has been the home of all football for generations not just that the women's team reached a cup final, the Windrush scandal was an outrage no doubt but the name doesn't need to be enshrined everywhere now. The square in Brixton is a fitting monument and is signifiant as Brixton has long been the home of the UKs black culture. That could have reverted to the East London line name which was what that was going to be when proposed in the 90s; an extension of the East London to Dalston and West Croydon.
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Post by borneobus on May 6, 2024 13:04:46 GMT
I saw a flying pig and a blue moon What's the difference between a flying pig and a blue moon? There has never been a well-known song called Flying Pig. ...but there is "Pigs on the Wing" by Pink Floyd from their 1977 album "Animals' which includes a flying pig on the cover...and of course there's a London connection as the pig is flying high above Battersea Power Station! Apologies, I couldn't stop myself: the music anorak in me prevailed... PS - re "Blue Moon" any version except Showaddywaddy
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Post by borneobus on May 6, 2024 13:16:31 GMT
Yes much of the problem with the renaming of the Overground seems to come more from how they've been named and not from the separation of the network into individual lines which I see no problem with spending £6 million doing. I agree. The Lioness line could just have easily been the Stadium line to reflect that Wembley has been the home of all football for generations not just that the women's team reached a cup final, the Windrush scandal was an outrage no doubt but the name doesn't need to be enshrined everywhere now. The square in Brixton is a fitting monument and is signifiant as Brixton has long been the home of the UKs black culture. That could have reverted to the East London line name which was what that was going to be when proposed in the 90s; an extension of the East London to Dalston and West Croydon. "Stadium Line" - that's a great name, really like it. You talk about the Windrush scandal in the past tense - it's still very much live with many claimants still awaiting compensation, some of whom have sadly passed away in the interim
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