SUPERLOOP 2

[vjaska]

Nov 17, 2024 13:37:19 GMT VMH2537 said:

Nov 17, 2024 13:26:00 GMT sdaniel said:

Does anybody have any idea when the Superloop 2 consultations are coming out?
The mayor said he will release the consultations towards the end of the year if I’m not mistaken.

Only information we have so far is the one for the Thamesmead to Woolwich route should be launched early next year as well as the Bakerloop? I'm happy to be corrected here.

Ironically, two of the Superloop proposals that either already is or could be covered without introducing a new route. Thamesmead is already covered by the important & useful 472 and Bakerloop could be covered by the 415 which already serves Elephant and has enough slack within it's current routing to make it to Lewisham - it takes a 21 half and hour roughly to get between Bricklayers Arms & Lewisham and the 415 has a max running time of 45 minutes and almost fully runs along roads with bus lanes on. Once the Bakerloo Line is eventually extended, should they need to pair the route back, Surrey Canal might be ready to then accept the 415 as per the proposal for it a few years back. Not only that but a 415 extension shouldn't be anymore expensive and would bring about more new links.

[vjaska]

The one I'm looking forward to both for good and bad reasons is the Streatham to Eltham one - I'm still skeptical it will work in that form given it will highly likely run via the very congested A205 which between Brixton Hill & Lee is a pain the backside to navigate and if running via that route, is constrained by the low bridge on Thurlow Park Road. Starting the route at Brixton instead of Streatham would allow it some reliability saving by missing out Christchurch Road but I don't see them amending it so on a more positive note, I decided to think which stops will be served and this is my guess at this stage with a small reason why I think that:

Streatham Station (assuming this is where it will start, it's the most logical place)
Becmead Avenue (for the shops and Odeon cinema)
Streatham Hill Station
Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue (for interchange with the 59 & 137)
A new pair of stops (one in each direction) on the currently unserved section of Christchurch Road
Tulse Hill Hotel for (for Tulse Hill Station with Tulse Hill Station being served towards Streatham due to the gyratory system)
West Dulwich Station
Horniman Museum (for the museum and for the nearby 363 - I did initially pick Wood Lane)
Forest Hill Station/London Road
Stanstead Road/Colfe Road (Forest Hill Fire Station towards Streatham, for interchange with the 122)
Catford & Catford Bridge Stations
Brownhill Road/The Catford Centre (Catford Road/Lewisham Town Hall towards Streatham, for the shops and interchange with other routes)
Baring Road (interchange with the 261 & 273)
Eltham Road/Westhorne Avenue
One of the stops on Eltham High Street presuming it won't terminate at the station

[Busboy105]

Nov 17, 2024 14:47:03 GMT vjaska said:

The one I'm looking forward to both for good and bad reasons is the Streatham to Eltham one - I'm still skeptical it will work in that form given it will highly likely run via the very congested A205 which between Brixton Hill & Lee is a pain the backside to navigate and if running via that route, is constrained by the low bridge on Thurlow Park Road. Starting the route at Brixton instead of Streatham would allow it some reliability saving by missing out Christchurch Road but I don't see them amending it so on a more positive note, I decided to think which stops will be served and this is my guess at this stage with a small reason why I think that:

Streatham Station (assuming this is where it will start, it's the most logical place)
Becmead Avenue (for the shops and Odeon cinema)
Streatham Hill Station
Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue (for interchange with the 59 & 137)
A new pair of stops (one in each direction) on the currently unserved section of Christchurch Road
Tulse Hill Hotel for (for Tulse Hill Station with Tulse Hill Station being served towards Streatham due to the gyratory system)
West Dulwich Station
Horniman Museum (for the museum and for the nearby 363 - I did initially pick Wood Lane)
Forest Hill Station/London Road
Stanstead Road/Colfe Road (Forest Hill Fire Station towards Streatham, for interchange with the 122)
Catford & Catford Bridge Stations
Brownhill Road/The Catford Centre (Catford Road/Lewisham Town Hall towards Streatham, for the shops and interchange with other routes)
Baring Road (interchange with the 261 & 273)
Eltham Road/Westhorne Avenue
One of the stops on Eltham High Street presuming it won't terminate at the station

I hope it would serve the bus station. There's plenty space there

[vjaska]

Nov 17, 2024 15:44:05 GMT Busboy105 said:

Nov 17, 2024 14:47:03 GMT vjaska said:

The one I'm looking forward to both for good and bad reasons is the Streatham to Eltham one - I'm still skeptical it will work in that form given it will highly likely run via the very congested A205 which between Brixton Hill & Lee is a pain the backside to navigate and if running via that route, is constrained by the low bridge on Thurlow Park Road. Starting the route at Brixton instead of Streatham would allow it some reliability saving by missing out Christchurch Road but I don't see them amending it so on a more positive note, I decided to think which stops will be served and this is my guess at this stage with a small reason why I think that:

Streatham Station (assuming this is where it will start, it's the most logical place)
Becmead Avenue (for the shops and Odeon cinema)
Streatham Hill Station
Streatham Hill, Telford Avenue (for interchange with the 59 & 137)
A new pair of stops (one in each direction) on the currently unserved section of Christchurch Road
Tulse Hill Hotel for (for Tulse Hill Station with Tulse Hill Station being served towards Streatham due to the gyratory system)
West Dulwich Station
Horniman Museum (for the museum and for the nearby 363 - I did initially pick Wood Lane)
Forest Hill Station/London Road
Stanstead Road/Colfe Road (Forest Hill Fire Station towards Streatham, for interchange with the 122)
Catford & Catford Bridge Stations
Brownhill Road/The Catford Centre (Catford Road/Lewisham Town Hall towards Streatham, for the shops and interchange with other routes)
Baring Road (interchange with the 261 & 273)
Eltham Road/Westhorne Avenue
One of the stops on Eltham High Street presuming it won't terminate at the station

I hope it would serve the bus station. There's plenty space there

There is indeed but then you increase the distance for people wanting the high street so it's a catch 22. It'll be interesting to see which they choose.