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Post by enviroPB on Jul 5, 2024 10:23:59 GMT
They gained Chipping Barnet, Finchley and Golders Green, Cities of London and Westminster, Chelsea and Fulham, Eltham and Chislehurst, Uxbridge and South Ruislip & Bexleyheath and Crawford whilst only losing Islington North. Labour made a net gain of 6 seats in London. I thought they would have got more in London, I think some of the seats did not change as expected due to issues around Palestine. A lot of viral social media messages were going around telling Muslim voters to not vote certain MP's who were not supportive of Palestine. When Chingford and Woodford Green was being announced, ex-Labour candidate Faiza Shaheen looked visibly upset at her replacement and Ian Duncan Smith's results. He won't admit it, but even Smith looked surprised that he held onto his seat. It is not a reflection of the country but in some metropolitan areas like with Leicester, the issues around Gaza are just as important as domestic woes. Starmer would take in the win, but it would be foolish to ignore Palestinian issues and the low voter turnout. Let's see how he addresses these concerns while in office. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 5, 2024 11:00:41 GMT
I thought they would have got more in London, I think some of the seats did not change as expected due to issues around Palestine. A lot of viral social media messages were going around telling Muslim voters to not vote certain MP's who were not supportive of Palestine. When Chingford and Woodford Green was being announced, ex-Labour candidate Faiza Shaheen looked visibly upset at her replacement and Ian Duncan Smith's results. He won't admit it, but even Smith looked surprised that he held onto his seat. It is not a reflection of the country but in some metropolitan areas like with Leicester, the issues around Gaza are just as important as domestic woes. Starmer would take in the win, but it would be foolish to ignore Palestinian issues and the low voter turnout. Let's see how he addresses these concerns while in office. Yes 57% turnout looks poor to me. Especially with so much at stake as there often is at a General. |
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Post by COBO on Jul 5, 2024 11:38:55 GMT
Do you think the Sadiq will get his wish regarding now there’s a full Labour government?
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Post by PGAT on Jul 5, 2024 11:42:05 GMT
Do you think the Sadiq will get his wish regarding now there’s a full Labour government? Not in regards to TfL taking over London commuter lines which has been rejected by the government |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 5, 2024 11:43:22 GMT
Labour manifesto: What they plan to do in governmentLabour has won a big majority in the general election. That means it should be able to pass the new laws it wants easily. But what are those likely to be?www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cml2en8xlxkoTruss and Rees-Mogg among big-name Tory lossesFormer prime minister Liz Truss has lost her seat in Labour’s landslide election victory, as the Conservatives slump to a historic defeat.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gezr05xkoSunak accepts responsibility for historic Tory defeatRishi Sunak has said he accepts responsibility for the Conservative Party's catastrophic general election defeat.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1xnzlzz99oWhy the SNP was left shocked by Labour's surgeIn Scotland it has been a night of political contrasts - celebration for Labour and catastrophe for the SNP.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51yvl3j07moDavey hails 'record-breaking' night for Lib DemsLiberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey has hailed a "record-breaking" night for his party after it won 70 seats.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51y2z7jdz9o Farage elected MP for first time as Reform wins four seatsNigel Farage has been elected as an MP for the first time, on a night which saw Reform UK take more than four million votes.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gw83w8xg9o The only person I feel commiserations for is Penny Mordaunt. She struck me as a consummate professional and even her speech was gracious. It’s a true shame I thought she may have had a decent future in the parties leading ranks. Robert Buckland was equally very gracious in his speech, even praising the Labour candidate Heidi Alexander. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 5, 2024 11:48:11 GMT
The only person I feel commiserations for is Penny Mordaunt. She struck me as a consummate professional and even her speech was gracious. It’s a true shame I thought she may have had a decent future in the parties leading ranks. Robert Buckland was equally very gracious in his speech, even praising the Labour candidate Heidi Alexander. For me this is what everyone forgets, they are just people doing a job who have been let down by bad management. It’s sad when good politicians like Mordaunt or Buckland are ruined by a party name they attach to themselves. Not saying they aren’t complicit but it’s just easy to forget the human element whilst people like Emma Kennedy are constantly typing terrible comments on twitter. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 5, 2024 11:55:13 GMT
Robert Buckland was equally very gracious in his speech, even praising the Labour candidate Heidi Alexander. For me this is what everyone forgets, they are just people doing a job who have been let down by bad management. It’s sad when good politicians like Mordaunt or Buckland are ruined by a party name they attach to themselves. Not saying they aren’t complicit but it’s just easy to forget the human element whilst people like Emma Kennedy are constantly typing terrible comments on twitter. To be fair to Buckland, I don’t think he was as complicit as some others and he was very scathing about his own party and it’s continued poor behaviour last night. They are human but I’d be lying if I didn’t say there were a number I was happy to see the back of - some I got my wish on like a few Tories plus Galloway, others not so |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 5, 2024 13:02:50 GMT
The formalities have now taken place. Rishi Sunak has been to Buckingham Palace to hand in his resignation as Prime Minister. He was followed by Keir Starmer, who has been asked to form a Government as the new Prime Minister.
We should know soon the make-up of the new Cabinet, of course there are a couple of vacancies as former Shadow Cabinet members Thangam Debbonaire and Jonathan Ashworth have lost the seats they were contesting.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 5, 2024 13:40:01 GMT
The formalities have now taken place. Rishi Sunak has been to Buckingham Palace to hand in his resignation as Prime Minister. He was followed by Keir Starmer, who has been asked to form a Government as the new Prime Minister. We should know soon the make-up of the new Cabinet, of course there are a couple of vacancies as former Shadow Cabinet members Thangam Debbonaire and Jonathan Ashworth have lost the seats they were contesting. She was expected to lose her seat apparently down to locals having issues with her in particular and the Greens are quite strong in Bristol. Ashworth was a surprise and no doubt due to Gaza |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 5, 2024 13:47:18 GMT
Next Tory Leader?? Badenoch?? Braverman?? Cleverly?? Hunt?? Jenrick?? Moderate for now, but hot take, long term I reckon we’ll see an infamous Mr Farage at the helm.. |
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Post by buspete on Jul 5, 2024 13:56:00 GMT
Robert Buckland was one of the better MP’s to lose their seat, along with Penny Mordaunt, Michelle Donelan. No tears over Liz Truss though. A big shame the turnout was 8% lower.
So Reform causes a sizeable ripple as big as the Green Party. However what is clear is that Brexit was a disaster and there is a complete mandate to align ourselves with our business partners more.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 5, 2024 13:58:07 GMT
Next Tory Leader?? Badenoch?? Braverman?? Cleverly?? Hunt?? Jenrick?? Has to be Tom Tugendhat. He is more a centrist than the candidates listed above and he is a military man. That is exactly what the conservatives need right now. Someone to come in fix the problems, reunite what remains and rebuild on a more middleman approach. The time for Badenoch and Braverman has passed. Going far right would almost certainly guarantee the Tories are left out for a while. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 5, 2024 15:25:11 GMT
Next Tory Leader?? Badenoch?? Braverman?? Cleverly?? Hunt?? Jenrick?? Has to be Tom Tugendhat. He is more a centrist than the candidates listed above and he is a military man. That is exactly what the conservatives need right now. Someone to come in fix the problems, reunite what remains and rebuild on a more middleman approach. The time for Badenoch and Braverman has passed. Going far right would almost certainly guarantee the Tories are left out for a while. However staying centre would just result in the threat of Reform only growing, Labour caters to the centrist crowd so the Tories would probably just damage themselves more by staying there, alongside leading to excessive infighting. I think the path for them at the moment sits on the far right, Someone like Kemi comes and takes them right, probably gets another handling in the next General election but would see the Reform seats return to Conservative before moving back towards the centre in hope that they could potentially gain power again. By which point I'd not be surprised to see Mordaunt back in the Commons in some form, probably a parachute into a key Conservative target for the next election. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 5, 2024 15:31:08 GMT
Has to be Tom Tugendhat. He is more a centrist than the candidates listed above and he is a military man. That is exactly what the conservatives need right now. Someone to come in fix the problems, reunite what remains and rebuild on a more middleman approach. The time for Badenoch and Braverman has passed. Going far right would almost certainly guarantee the Tories are left out for a while. However staying centre would just result in the threat of Reform only growing, Labour caters to the centrist crowd so the Tories would probably just damage themselves more by staying there, alongside leading to excessive infighting. I think the path for them at the moment sits on the far right, Someone like Kemi comes and takes them right, probably gets another handling in the next General election but would see the Reform seats return to Conservative before moving back towards the centre in hope that they could potentially gain power again. By which point I'd not be surprised to see Mordaunt back in the Commons in some form, probably a parachute into a key Conservative target for the next election. It's 4 years away I know but she could be a mayoral contender aswell. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 5, 2024 15:54:40 GMT
However staying centre would just result in the threat of Reform only growing, Labour caters to the centrist crowd so the Tories would probably just damage themselves more by staying there, alongside leading to excessive infighting. I think the path for them at the moment sits on the far right, Someone like Kemi comes and takes them right, probably gets another handling in the next General election but would see the Reform seats return to Conservative before moving back towards the centre in hope that they could potentially gain power again. By which point I'd not be surprised to see Mordaunt back in the Commons in some form, probably a parachute into a key Conservative target for the next election. It's 4 years away I know but she could be a mayoral contender aswell. I'd assume Khan's strength will probably increase now with a Labour government in power, Reeves did say that she'd heavily scrutinise spending of him (and all mayors) but I assume if anything for him starts going terribly south then he will get governmental support to ensure he stays favourable, I'm also assuming Khan will probably not randomly pick fights with the government now either. Baring in mind Starmer is the MP for a Central London constituency and Reeves herself is a Londoner born and bred I can't imagine Khan being hung out to dry by any of them. This could prove interesting for the 2030 electric deadline. I wonder if the year 2030 as a target will vanish into obscurity should finances be poor and Khan making no effort to push it like he has been doing so with the Conservative government. If Reeves and the treasury don't help out it's unlikely he'll cause any sort of stink up, especially as he himself might want to get into a future cabinet if he ever decides to return to parliament. |
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