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Post by YX10FFN on Jul 5, 2024 16:13:43 GMT
Louise Haigh is the new Transport Secretary. She has been the Shadow Transport Secretary since late 2021. Positioned towards the left of the party, she’s been clear in her ambition to renationalise the railways.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 5, 2024 16:16:33 GMT
It's 4 years away I know but she could be a mayoral contender aswell. I'd assume Khan's strength will probably increase now with a Labour government in power, Reeves did say that she'd heavily scrutinise spending of him (and all mayors) but I assume if anything for him starts going terribly south then he will get governmental support to ensure he stays favourable, I'm also assuming Khan will probably not randomly pick fights with the government now either. Baring in mind Starmer is the MP for a Central London constituency and Reeves herself is a Londoner born and bred I can't imagine Khan being hung out to dry by any of them. This could prove interesting for the 2030 electric deadline. I wonder if the year 2030 as a target will vanish into obscurity should finances be poor and Khan making no effort to push it like he has been doing so with the Conservative government. If Reeves and the treasury don't help out it's unlikely he'll cause any sort of stink up, especially as he himself might want to get into a future cabinet if he ever decides to return to parliament. Alternatively it could weaken him without the government to blame for his constant failings. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 5, 2024 16:26:55 GMT
I'd assume Khan's strength will probably increase now with a Labour government in power, Reeves did say that she'd heavily scrutinise spending of him (and all mayors) but I assume if anything for him starts going terribly south then he will get governmental support to ensure he stays favourable, I'm also assuming Khan will probably not randomly pick fights with the government now either. Baring in mind Starmer is the MP for a Central London constituency and Reeves herself is a Londoner born and bred I can't imagine Khan being hung out to dry by any of them. This could prove interesting for the 2030 electric deadline. I wonder if the year 2030 as a target will vanish into obscurity should finances be poor and Khan making no effort to push it like he has been doing so with the Conservative government. If Reeves and the treasury don't help out it's unlikely he'll cause any sort of stink up, especially as he himself might want to get into a future cabinet if he ever decides to return to parliament. Alternatively it could weaken him without the government to blame for his constant failings. I'd be surprised if that happens, most of his attacks since Covid have been moves actively taken by the government against him or him causing problems himself such as the 2030 deadline. While there may be some cases where the government doesn't support him in his plans now I heavily doubt that such plans won't be run through central government before being made public so that they can green light it. If Khan was to go and announce un-funded policies it would look worse on the government than it would on him and I don't think the government at least will allow that. I think the people in the Tees valley might be getting a rough time now though. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 5, 2024 16:38:24 GMT
Has to be Tom Tugendhat. He is more a centrist than the candidates listed above and he is a military man. That is exactly what the conservatives need right now. Someone to come in fix the problems, reunite what remains and rebuild on a more middleman approach. The time for Badenoch and Braverman has passed. Going far right would almost certainly guarantee the Tories are left out for a while. However staying centre would just result in the threat of Reform only growing, Labour caters to the centrist crowd so the Tories would probably just damage themselves more by staying there, alongside leading to excessive infighting. I think the path for them at the moment sits on the far right, Someone like Kemi comes and takes them right, probably gets another handling in the next General election but would see the Reform seats return to Conservative before moving back towards the centre in hope that they could potentially gain power again. By which point I'd not be surprised to see Mordaunt back in the Commons in some form, probably a parachute into a key Conservative target for the next election. I think a couple of years in the centre, reconnecting with the voter and understanding why they turned away from the Tories. Then in 2028 they can move back towards a right leaning position. If it were me I’d leave the hardline left to Reform. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 5, 2024 16:40:40 GMT
It's 4 years away I know but she could be a mayoral contender aswell. I'd assume Khan's strength will probably increase now with a Labour government in power, Reeves did say that she'd heavily scrutinise spending of him (and all mayors) but I assume if anything for him starts going terribly south then he will get governmental support to ensure he stays favourable, I'm also assuming Khan will probably not randomly pick fights with the government now either. Baring in mind Starmer is the MP for a Central London constituency and Reeves herself is a Londoner born and bred I can't imagine Khan being hung out to dry by any of them. This could prove interesting for the 2030 electric deadline. I wonder if the year 2030 as a target will vanish into obscurity should finances be poor and Khan making no effort to push it like he has been doing so with the Conservative government. If Reeves and the treasury don't help out it's unlikely he'll cause any sort of stink up, especially as he himself might want to get into a future cabinet if he ever decides to return to parliament. My guess is that the 2030 (end-of) deadline for all-electric bus operation in London is secure now. The Green Growth Plan is central to the new Government's strategy and will see investment in greener and cheaper energy as a priority. |
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Post by buspete on Jul 5, 2024 16:45:34 GMT
Next Tory Leader?? Badenoch?? Braverman?? Cleverly?? Hunt?? Jenrick?? Has to be Tom Tugendhat. He is more a centrist than the candidates listed above and he is a military man. That is exactly what the conservatives need right now. Someone to come in fix the problems, reunite what remains and rebuild on a more middleman approach. The time for Badenoch and Braverman has passed. Going far right would almost certainly guarantee the Tories are left out for a while. Wow for once I 100% agree with you. Lurching to the hard right will put the Tories in electoral oblivion for years and years, that also includes jumping in bed with the Reform party, who will implode soon, that’s what happens with narcissists. Elections are won in the centre, that is what Labour did. The future isn’t Boris Johnson as well the Tory grandee will not let him be Prime Minister again, gone are they days where they have to hold their nose. |
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 5, 2024 16:49:38 GMT
It's 4 years away I know but she could be a mayoral contender aswell. I'd assume Khan's strength will probably increase now with a Labour government in power, Reeves did say that she'd heavily scrutinise spending of him (and all mayors) but I assume if anything for him starts going terribly south then he will get governmental support to ensure he stays favourable, I'm also assuming Khan will probably not randomly pick fights with the government now either. Baring in mind Starmer is the MP for a Central London constituency and Reeves herself is a Londoner born and bred I can't imagine Khan being hung out to dry by any of them. This could prove interesting for the 2030 electric deadline. I wonder if the year 2030 as a target will vanish into obscurity should finances be poor and Khan making no effort to push it like he has been doing so with the Conservative government. If Reeves and the treasury don't help out it's unlikely he'll cause any sort of stink up, especially as he himself might want to get into a future cabinet if he ever decides to return to parliament. Let alone the 2030 deadline for buses they want to bring it forward again for cars. I don’t know how in what world they’re going to manage it when there’s no money to install millions of chargers and upgrade the power network, not to mention EV sales are falling this year compared to last year, with taxes being imposed on them next year and second hand values plummeting like skydiving grand pianos. It’s never gonna happen |
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Post by lundnah on Jul 5, 2024 17:05:11 GMT
Nobody's yet answered the big question - what will be the London bus route of the Labour Majority?
Will Sir Keir win by Woolwich - Bluewater? Or a more impressive Hayes & Harlington - Harrow Weald?
Or as big as Russell Square - North Greenwich? Or a truly impressive Kingston - Staines? Or a frankly astonishing Bromley North - Westerham?
The London bus route of the Labour Majority is Dagnam Park Square to Dagenham, Marsh Way.
(unless Labour wins the Highlands constituency that's declaring tomorrow, in which case it'll be Tottenham Court Road to Penge)
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 5, 2024 17:07:17 GMT
Nobody's yet answered the big question - what will be the London bus route of the Labour Majority?
Will Sir Keir win by Woolwich - Bluewater? Or a more impressive Hayes & Harlington - Harrow Weald?
Or as big as Russell Square - North Greenwich? Or a truly impressive Kingston - Staines? Or a frankly astonishing Bromley North - Westerham?
The London bus route of the Labour Majority is Dagnam Park Square to Dagenham, Marsh Way.
(unless Labour wins the Highlands constituency that's declaring tomorrow, in which case it'll be Tottenham Court Road to Penge)
I can’t believe I got my Purley to West Croydon (412) prediction bang on yesterday!!! 😀😀😀 even before the exit poll |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 5, 2024 17:54:53 GMT
The London bus route of the Labour Majority is Dagnam Park Square to Dagenham, Marsh Way. (unless Labour wins the Highlands constituency that's declaring tomorrow, in which case it'll be Tottenham Court Road to Penge)
I can’t believe I got my Purley to West Croydon (412) prediction bang on yesterday!!! 😀😀😀 even before the exit poll Labour came close thou in Croydon South. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 5, 2024 18:24:14 GMT
The new Parliament is possibly the most diverse ever. Over 40% of the MPs are now women - 46% of the Labour MPs. 89 MPs are from ethnic minorities - a record. 334 of the MPs (over half) are new to the house, having never been elected before, including 56.4% of the Labour intake and 76.1% of the Lib Dems (not to mention 100% of the Greens).
The new Cabinet fares less well on diversity. There are more women Ministers than ever before, but only one Black Minister (David Lammy, Foreign Secretary) and two women Ministers of South Asian descent (Shabana Mahmood and Lisa Nandy). The new Transport Secretary, Louise Haigh, is thought to be the youngest woman ever to serve as a Cabinet Minister at the age of 36.
Diane Abbott becomes the Mother of the House, having served longer than any other woman MP in the new Parliament. Interestingly, Jeremy Corbyn just loses out to Edward Leigh as Father of the House, having been behind him in the queue to be sworn in in 1983.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 5, 2024 19:18:09 GMT
However staying centre would just result in the threat of Reform only growing, Labour caters to the centrist crowd so the Tories would probably just damage themselves more by staying there, alongside leading to excessive infighting. I think the path for them at the moment sits on the far right, Someone like Kemi comes and takes them right, probably gets another handling in the next General election but would see the Reform seats return to Conservative before moving back towards the centre in hope that they could potentially gain power again. By which point I'd not be surprised to see Mordaunt back in the Commons in some form, probably a parachute into a key Conservative target for the next election. I think a couple of years in the centre, reconnecting with the voter and understanding why they turned away from the Tories. Then in 2028 they can move back towards a right leaning position. If it were me I’d leave the hardline left to Reform. I don't think that will work, the Tories have had a terrible showing this time because of Reform, not so much because of Labour. The reality is that unless Labour move hard left they're not going to appeal to most centrists as you'll just have two centrist parties and as a result people tend to stick with the status quo. But Labour will have the benefit of there being no hard left party eating up their vote share and as a result most hard leftists will still vote for a centrist Labour, but anyone on the hard right won't vote Conservative as Reform will be eating into their vote unless they are dealt with. It's likely to take the Tories multiple terms to rebuild after this, probably quite hard as the red wall that once was is now back in full force. The Tories had one chance to prove to the red wall why they should be lent their vote and they blew it on every single account. Keir Starmer seems to already have proved to be commanding and will take thought out actions, I think chances of him going are more likely as a result of voter fatigue (much like Blair) or a terrible economic decision (like Truss). Reeves so far has shown to be very similar to George Osbourne in how she's prepared to handle things, arguably unpopular but certainly someone who knew what they were doing to keep the economy in healthy spirits. The Starmer cabinet is also generally experienced with many of them having served in government before, Cameron and May both had experienced cabinets which obviously was reflected in their polls but Boris notably did not which is where the downfall started when he got his majority to implement decisions. The Truss cabinet speaks for itself and by the time Sunak managed to bring in some experience it was all too late and the ship was well and truly on its way to sinking. |
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Post by buspete on Jul 5, 2024 19:59:44 GMT
If the Tories lurch to the right, they then get caught in the slip stream of Liberals hoovering up the centre ground.
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Post by PGAT on Jul 5, 2024 20:04:08 GMT
If the Tories lurch to the right, they then get caught in the slip stream of Liberals hoovering up the centre ground. And if Reform voters don't budge then that will squeeze them in a tight position. Certainly more marginal seats in the Southeast such as Reigate, Godalming & Ash and Havant would be lost |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 5, 2024 21:02:57 GMT
If the Tories lurch to the right, they then get caught in the slip stream of Liberals hoovering up the centre ground. And if Reform voters don't budge then that will squeeze them in a tight position. Certainly more marginal seats in the Southeast such as Reigate, Godalming & Ash and Havant would be lost Our local (awful) MP Andrew Rosindell in Romford has already said he will look yo align himself more towards Reform- already alienating a couple of the Tory local councillors He won the seat by just over 1000 votes, down from a 20k-ish majority in 2019. Hopefully his lurch even further to the right will seer many of the more centre-right votes in Romford away from Rozza (if he last a 5 year term as an MP) |
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