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Post by fortheloveofbuses on May 24, 2024 12:02:08 GMT
There’s recently been posters put up at relevant stops about merging routes 14 and 414.
All that is known as of right now:
- The 414 will be withdrawn.
- The 14 will be more frequent, likely without any changes to the routing.
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Post by WH241 on May 24, 2024 12:39:57 GMT
I really hope this thread doesn’t become a TfL should have done this or that instead.
If the 14 route is staying as it is then I hope that’s accepted.
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Post by bk10mfe on May 24, 2024 13:09:19 GMT
I really hope this thread doesn’t become a TfL should have done this or that instead. If the 14 route is staying as it is then I hope that’s accepted. Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. |
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Post by greenboy on May 24, 2024 14:08:56 GMT
I really hope this thread doesn’t become a TfL should have done this or that instead. If the 14 route is staying as it is then I hope that’s accepted. Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. I suspect that's what will happen, TCR-Putney Heath 8bph, and the Russell Square bit dropped if Great Russell Street is being pedestrianised. |
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Post by Trafalgax on May 24, 2024 14:18:05 GMT
I really hope this thread doesn’t become a TfL should have done this or that instead. If the 14 route is staying as it is then I hope that’s accepted. Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. I think the 73 and 390 should be left alone on that section. TFL rerouted 10 via Russell Square but since they withdrew it that tells me the rerouting wasn't successful. I can’t see how the 73 or 390 would be any better. |
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Post by bk10mfe on May 24, 2024 14:31:04 GMT
Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. I suspect that's what will happen, TCR-Putney Heath 8bph, and the Russell Square bit dropped if Great Russell Street is being pedestrianised. There is the possibility that tfl go 1 step further & curtail the 14 to Piccadilly Circus, as tfl have believed in the past that the 19/38 are sufficient on Shaftesbury Ave. While I don’t necessarily agree with this idea, this is something they are likely to at least consider. |
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Post by bk10mfe on May 24, 2024 14:37:37 GMT
Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. I think the 73 and 390 should be left alone on that section. TFL rerouted 10 via Russell Square but since they withdrew it that tells me the rerouting wasn't successful. I can’t see how the 73 or 390 would be any better. I’ve suggested previously that the 10 should have been left as it was & the 390 be withdrawn instead, with the 73 re-extending back to Victoria & the 17 rerouted between Kings Cross & Archway via the 390’s LOR. TfL also believed there was too much capacity on the Holloway-Kings Cross corridor which I can somewhat agree with them on & this was evidenced when the 259 was proposed for removal from that corridor. |
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Post by WH241 on May 24, 2024 14:38:25 GMT
I really hope this thread doesn’t become a TfL should have done this or that instead. If the 14 route is staying as it is then I hope that’s accepted. Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. Clearly you replied on purpose with exactly what I said would happen. There are plenty of other threads for route ideas as you well know as you are a prolific user of them. You can’t ever offer suggestions on here. Goes and bands head against a wall. |
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Post by mondraker275 on May 24, 2024 14:48:30 GMT
Considering TfL usually consults for 6 weeks, this consultation would start on Mon 27 May, but that being a bank holiday, I suspect the aim was to start it towards the end of this week so probably not happening now unless it is opened today.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on May 24, 2024 15:03:17 GMT
I’m currently in Fulham Broadway, I have seen the posters up along the 14/414 route. The QR codes on the poster lead to a page on the TFL consultation page where a message pops up and says “this page you are trying to access is private. Please sign in to access it”.
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Post by bk10mfe on May 24, 2024 15:28:20 GMT
Personally I think the 14 should just focus on being a Putney Heath-TCR route, it can take the 176’s official stand on Great Russell st if the 176 only uses that as a drop off point. The 7 being returned back to Russell Square is definitely more useful, would help relieve the 98 a bit & the links from Oxford Circus are retained. If tfl can’t extend the 7 rerouting the 390 is also an option, I don’t think the 390 needs to follow the 73 completely between Oxford Circus & Kings Cross. Clearly you replied on purpose with exactly what I said would happen. There are plenty of other threads for route ideas as you well know as you are a prolific user of them. You can’t ever offer suggestions on here. Goes and bands head against a wall. I’m sorry but I don’t get why it’s such a big deal to write about suggestions/what could possibly happen directly relating to what is being proposed? The 14 is barely used between TCR & Russell Square even at its current frequency & an increased frequency will overbus that section. It’s not considered spam in a chat if what you are writing is relevant to the specific consultation, which what I wrote is. There are always improvements/alternatives to what tfl can do with any consultations & it’s likely they are going to be pointed out. |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 24, 2024 16:14:09 GMT
Considering TfL usually consults for 6 weeks, this consultation would start on Mon 27 May, but that being a bank holiday, I suspect the aim was to start it towards the end of this week so probably not happening now unless it is opened today. It probably won’t happen now until after the general election. I’d be very surprised if TfL open any new consultations in the next few working days before parliament shuts down. |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 24, 2024 16:15:23 GMT
Clearly you replied on purpose with exactly what I said would happen. There are plenty of other threads for route ideas as you well know as you are a prolific user of them. You can’t ever offer suggestions on here. Goes and bands head against a wall. I’m sorry but I don’t get why it’s such a big deal to write about suggestions/what could possibly happen directly relating to what is being proposed? The 14 is barely used between TCR & Russell Square even at its current frequency & an increased frequency will overbus that section. It’s not considered spam in a chat if what you are writing is relevant to the specific consultation, which what I wrote is. There are always improvements/alternatives to what tfl can do with any consultations & it’s likely they are going to be pointed out. I disagree, towards Putney the buses will pick up quite a few passengers heading towards Knightsbridge. Not so much in the opposite direction but that doesn’t justify cutting it back. |
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Post by danorak on May 24, 2024 16:24:34 GMT
I could be wrong, but having seen a picture elsewhere of one of the notices, I don't envisage any material changes to the 14. If they were going to withdraw a section I think it would be mentioned explicitly.
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Post by evergreenadam on May 24, 2024 16:29:23 GMT
I could be wrong, but having seen a picture elsewhere of one of the notices, I don't envisage any material changes to the 14. If they were going to withdraw a section I think it would be mentioned explicitly. Exactly. |
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