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Post by justjxck1994 on Jun 15, 2024 17:34:47 GMT
An upcoming consultation will be released for the following - Extend Route SL5 from Croydon Town Centre to Sutton Station via current Route SL7
- Add a new stop at Beddington Plough Lane
- Withdraw Route SL7 between Sutton Town Centre & West Croydon
- Add new stops on Route SL7 at Harlington Corner & Feltham (locations TBC)
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 15, 2024 17:39:50 GMT
An upcoming consultation will be released for the following - Extend Route SL5 from Croydon Town Centre to Sutton Station via current Route SL7
- Add a new stop at Beddington Plough Lane
- Withdraw Route SL7 between Sutton Town Centre & West Croydon
- Add new stops on Route SL7 at Harlington Corner & Feltham (locations TBC)
For Feltham, it looks like Feltham Station judging by the map. Is there really a need for a Harlington Corner stop? |
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Post by justjxck1994 on Jun 15, 2024 17:42:21 GMT
So a potential re-route via Route 285 from Hatton Cross to just after Feltham area
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 15, 2024 17:54:55 GMT
An upcoming consultation will be released for the following - Extend Route SL5 from Croydon Town Centre to Sutton Station via current Route SL7
- Add a new stop at Beddington Plough Lane
- Withdraw Route SL7 between Sutton Town Centre & West Croydon
- Add new stops on Route SL7 at Harlington Corner & Feltham (locations TBC)
Where have you got this information from - is it a reliable source? |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 15, 2024 18:02:24 GMT
Looks like the SL5 will stand at Sutton Station then serve the town centre (assuming the current SL7 stop at the Police Station) but not sure where the SL7 will stand. Possibly at the old Cock pub stand.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2024 18:10:38 GMT
Unless the SL5 is converting to double deckers this just doesn’t work for me. There are tons of through passengers on the SL7 to Croydon and I’m not sure forcing them to change bus is ideal. I was on an SL7 on Wednesday which was full to the front door, only myself and two other passengers got off in Sutton and no one waiting was able to board. They absolutely will need a shared stop in Sutton to allow easy change between vehicles in both directions.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2024 18:12:52 GMT
An upcoming consultation will be released for the following - Extend Route SL5 from Croydon Town Centre to Sutton Station via current Route SL7
- Add a new stop at Beddington Plough Lane
- Withdraw Route SL7 between Sutton Town Centre & West Croydon
- Add new stops on Route SL7 at Harlington Corner & Feltham (locations TBC)
For Feltham, it looks like Feltham Station judging by the map. Is there really a need for a Harlington Corner stop? Not necessarily, Cheam also has the rail symbol but the SL7 stops quite far from it. Likewise inside the vehicles New Malden has the symbol but it’s a 10 minute walk to the station. It could mean it stops within walking distance. |
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Post by justjxck1994 on Jun 15, 2024 18:12:57 GMT
An upcoming consultation will be released for the following - Extend Route SL5 from Croydon Town Centre to Sutton Station via current Route SL7
- Add a new stop at Beddington Plough Lane
- Withdraw Route SL7 between Sutton Town Centre & West Croydon
- Add new stops on Route SL7 at Harlington Corner & Feltham (locations TBC)
Where have you got this information from - is it a reliable source? It was sent out in the Croydon/Sutton area. I was sent it by someone |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 15, 2024 18:22:07 GMT
For this scheme to even have a chance of working they will need to convert route SL5 to a double deck operation. Also it looks like West Croydon Bus Station will lose out here too while quiet leafy Beddington gains.
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 15, 2024 18:27:36 GMT
Also it is interesting that the new Beddington Plough Lane stop is where route 407 does its driver changeovers...
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 15, 2024 18:29:06 GMT
For this scheme to even have a chance of working they will need to convert route SL5 to a double deck operation. Also it looks like West Croydon Bus Station will lose out here too while quiet leafy Beddington gains. Not necessarily as the SL5 could still be routed via West Croydon and then via the 407 to Beddington and Sutton. That's the sort of thing that you should definitely bring up in the consultation. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Jun 15, 2024 18:32:55 GMT
For this scheme to even have a chance of working they will need to convert route SL5 to a double deck operation. Also it looks like West Croydon Bus Station will lose out here too while quiet leafy Beddington gains. Not necessarily as the SL5 could still be routed via West Croydon and then via the 407 to Beddington and Sutton. Have you seen the map, it only says that route SL5 will serve East Croydon Station and Croydon Town Centre not West Croydon at all? The Croydon Flyover adds to the express angle which is what the Superloop is all about, going via route 407 is the longer way around. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 15, 2024 18:34:13 GMT
Unless the SL5 is converting to double deckers this just doesn’t work for me. There are tons of through passengers on the SL7 to Croydon and I’m not sure forcing them to change bus is ideal. I was on an SL7 on Wednesday which was full to the front door, only myself and two other passengers got off in Sutton and no one waiting was able to board. They absolutely will need a shared stop in Sutton to allow easy change between vehicles in both directions. Towards Croydon it could probably both serve the Police Station but not sure how it would get to the stand if it is going to use either Bushey or Marshalls Road. If both stood at the station then it might just work with the SL5 dropping off at Grove Road then going via the Police Station to reach the station to stand. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 15, 2024 18:37:15 GMT
Unless the SL5 is converting to double deckers this just doesn’t work for me. There are tons of through passengers on the SL7 to Croydon and I’m not sure forcing them to change bus is ideal. I was on an SL7 on Wednesday which was full to the front door, only myself and two other passengers got off in Sutton and no one waiting was able to board. They absolutely will need a shared stop in Sutton to allow easy change between vehicles in both directions. Towards Croydon it could probably both serve the Police Station but not sure how it would get to the stand if it is going to use either Bushey or Marshalls Road. If both stood at the station then it might just work with the SL5 dropping off at Grove Road then going via the Police Station to reach the station to stand. Both Bushey and Marshalls Road stand are full so it’ll have to be a new stand at Sutton Station as the current one isn’t suitable for 4 routes. As I’ve said before there is a severe lack of stand space in Sutton which TfL have failed to address in years gone by. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 15, 2024 18:44:00 GMT
Not necessarily as the SL5 could still be routed via West Croydon and then via the 407 to Beddington and Sutton. Have you seen the map, it only says that route SL5 will serve East Croydon Station and Croydon Town Centre not West Croydon at all? The Croydon Flyover adds to the express angle which is what the Superloop is all about, going via route 407 is the longer way around. Sorry I meant that could be something to bring up on the consultation and could see a revision if concerns are raised. |
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