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Post by cardinal on Mar 26, 2023 13:42:21 GMT
Had a great trip on a Westbus (coach) , number 174 from Staines to Reading this afternoon. Don’t normally particularly like coaches but he throttled it the whole way.
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Post by allentc on Apr 11, 2023 9:51:32 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 11, 2023 10:48:43 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
I don't think there's a reliable enough device available yet? Inevitably they would make drivers less vigilant and if the device fails......!
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Post by allentc on Apr 11, 2023 11:06:39 GMT
I don't think there's a reliable enough device available yet? Inevitably they would make drivers less vigilant and if the device fails......! There are several devices already on the market and I think some of the truck orientated sat-navs also have a built in warning. Very few new bridges are built or altered each year so such devices are basically a database of all bridges in the UK, their heights and GPS coordinates. You program in the height of your vehicle and when you get within x miles of the bridge GPS coordinates you get a warning if vehicle height > bridge height. Seems like a no brainer to me that double deck bus and coaches should be fitted with these as standard from the factory. Trucks are a little more difficult since the trailer height/type can vary depending on job whereas the height of a bus is static.
This bus is a 16 plate and still worth a significant amount which might make it worth putting a roof back on it.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 11, 2023 11:20:23 GMT
I don't think there's a reliable enough device available yet? Inevitably they would make drivers less vigilant and if the device fails......! There are several devices already on the market and I think some of the truck orientated sat-navs also have a built in warning. Very few new bridges are built or altered each year so such devices are basically a database of all bridges in the UK, their heights and GPS coordinates. You program in the height of your vehicle and when you get within x miles of the bridge GPS coordinates you get a warning if vehicle height > bridge height. Seems like a no brainer to me that double deck bus and coaches should be fitted with these as standard from the factory. Trucks are a little more difficult since the trailer height/type can vary depending on job whereas the height of a bus is static.
This bus is a 16 plate and still worth a significant amount which might make it worth putting a roof back on it.
I know but they’re not reliable enough, driver approaching bridge and it doesn't go off so driver assumes it's ok, it's too late when the driver finds out otherwise and obviously the driver would still be responsible.
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Post by Gary on Apr 19, 2023 5:08:10 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Not the greatest video but this lady filmed the aftermath from on board.
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Post by aaron1 on Apr 19, 2023 6:55:53 GMT
This weekend there is no Piccadilly Line from Acton Town to Uxbridge Don't know if buses start from Uxbridge or Rayners lane to Acton
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Post by cardinal on Apr 19, 2023 8:33:01 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Trying to work out what route this was on. Never seen a RR using that road. It heads out towards Walton and Shepperton so not on a rail line from Staines at all. Unless the driver thought they were driving the 458 .
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 19, 2023 8:54:15 GMT
This weekend there is no Piccadilly Line from Acton Town to Uxbridge Don't know if buses start from Uxbridge or Rayners lane to Acton Rayners Lane according to TfL's Status Updates - the Metropolitan is still operating to and from Uxbridge. You can always check this sort of thing at TfL's Status Updates page, for rail services it's generally reliable although the odd howler does creep in! tfl.gov.uk/tube-dlr-overground/status/
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 19, 2023 9:01:51 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Why should the cost be passed on to the transport operators? The Department of Transport has the ability to install electronic warning devices at low overbridges which would trigger a "STOP" warning when any overheight vehicle approaches. Ideally it would come from the national road budget rather than rail and should not be passed on to local councils. Bridge strikes are a significant safety issue for the railways (as well as a cause of delays) so the expense is justified.
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Post by greenboy on Apr 19, 2023 9:39:41 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Why should the cost be passed on to the transport operators? The Department of Transport has the ability to install electronic warning devices at low overbridges which would trigger a "STOP" warning when any overheight vehicle approaches. Ideally it would come from the national road budget rather than rail and should not be passed on to local councils. Bridge strikes are a significant safety issue for the railways (as well as a cause of delays) so the expense is justified. I assume you mean these sort of devices? twmtraffic.com/product/led-over-height-warning-sign/They're already in situ at many bridges but still they regularly get hit by over height vehicles, Shortlands being a prime example. They're not reliable and can actually be counter productive lulling drivers into a false sense of security.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 19, 2023 11:02:57 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Why should the cost be passed on to the transport operators? The Department of Transport has the ability to install electronic warning devices at low overbridges which would trigger a "STOP" warning when any overheight vehicle approaches. Ideally it would come from the national road budget rather than rail and should not be passed on to local councils. Bridge strikes are a significant safety issue for the railways (as well as a cause of delays) so the expense is justified. I agree, it is a pointless suggestion. All London buses has this system linked via the ibus and has the low bridge alert system, for more than 13 years now and it still has NOT stopped buses hitting low bridges. When someone switches off and their brain goes into auto, there is not much stopping them hitting a low bridge, unless maybe someone naked jumped out in front of the bus to catch their attention.
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Post by galwhv69 on Apr 19, 2023 15:55:28 GMT
Woops, Diamond Bus Streetdeck SL16YPH lost its roof hitting the low bridge on Laleham Road approaching Staines station whilst on SWR RR duties over the Easter weekend. That bridge is pretty notorious so it isn't the first and won't be the last.
According to SWR's Twitter reply thankfully only one person was treated for minor injuries.
There are several bridge warning devices available on the market. I'm surprised there isn't a law that mandates that all new double deck buses be fitted with such a device and that by year "x" all older buses in public service must be retrofitted.
Trying to work out what route this was on. Never seen a RR using that road. It heads out towards Walton and Shepperton so not on a rail line from Staines at all. Unless the driver thought they were driving the 458 . Bus was off route whilst working Hounslow - Windsor
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Post by vjaska on Apr 19, 2023 16:37:55 GMT
Why should the cost be passed on to the transport operators? The Department of Transport has the ability to install electronic warning devices at low overbridges which would trigger a "STOP" warning when any overheight vehicle approaches. Ideally it would come from the national road budget rather than rail and should not be passed on to local councils. Bridge strikes are a significant safety issue for the railways (as well as a cause of delays) so the expense is justified. I agree, it is a pointless suggestion. All London buses has this system linked via the ibus and has the low bridge alert system, for more than 13 years now and it still has NOT stopped buses hitting low bridges. When someone switches off and their brain goes into auto, there is not much stopping them hitting a low bridge, unless maybe someone naked jumped out in front of the bus to catch their attention. I would like to see if there is any statistics floating about the percentage of bridge strikers prevented because of the technology existing but either way, I don't see the issue of having this technology in cabs even if it only prevent one bridge strike - it's not like something along the line of ISA for example, it's merely a simple warning device
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Post by aaron1 on Apr 29, 2023 7:22:15 GMT
This weekend
No Central Line from Liverpool Street to Woodford and Newbury Park.
There no Bakerloo and Overground from Stonebridge Park to Watford Junction
No DLR from Westferry to Lewisham
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