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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 7:16:35 GMT
Is the fleet code for the E100 EVs due next year known yet? I am going to guess ESE.
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 20, 2024 8:33:48 GMT
It may just be a little OCD but the placement of all those stickers on the offside is a mess! 'I am an Electric Bus' too big for its spot shoehorned in by the the vent (?) and camera (which makes it look off centre too) and advert frame. Roundel nearly touching the window. USB sticker just 'floating' without being aligned with anything else. GAL logo not aligned vertically with nothing neither. Only the green leaf looks decently placed! Can't argue with that - the blind is also annoying me given the destination should be New Cross Gate (and arguably, the blinds should be update to say "New Cross Gate, Sainsburys" IMO) New Cross is way too vague really. Unusal really when more qualifying points have made a return like Ilford, Hainault Street and Holborn Viaduct etc. Looks like it's got different seats to the other Go Ahead buses?
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Post by WH241 on Oct 20, 2024 9:13:03 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 20, 2024 9:21:01 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason.
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Post by london23 on Oct 20, 2024 9:43:06 GMT
Do you know which of the routes will be ready first do you think it will be the 321,473 or 101.
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Post by TB123 on Oct 20, 2024 9:51:24 GMT
I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason. Musical chairs appeals to some....! When it comes to the SL4 fleet, I could see the logic of running them into service on other EV routes like the 69 and 262/473, or even as refurb floats (for 115 fleet for example) without branding applied, though I doubt this will happen realistically. Of interesting note is the 320 is now receiving EBDs with one heading to MB for type training this coming week. Whether these are new ones or a reallocation of the existing batch, I'm not sure.
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Post by lj61nwc on Oct 20, 2024 9:53:35 GMT
I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason. IF it were to happen, they wouldn't need to be swapped, the vehicles would be same age so will be compliant for the contract, ordering of fleet numbers may be a bit messy but they're the same type and won't be as bad as the 151(intended for 213) Ees being spread out across A, AL & Q
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Post by M1104 on Oct 20, 2024 9:56:50 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
The 333 batch could ideally be allocated to the 89, in essence the two routes using each other's fleet for the time being. If done in time the E/WVLs from the 89 could be used for the 217
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Post by lj61nwc on Oct 20, 2024 9:59:12 GMT
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason. Of interesting note is the 320 is now receiving EBDs with one heading to MB for type training this coming week. Whether these are new ones or a reallocation of the existing batch, I'm not sure. That's interesting, I'd imagine they would be a new batch seeing as the initial plan was to order just over a hundred, with the 280 probably the final route to have EBDs and to take the EBDs into the three digit figures
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 20, 2024 10:04:52 GMT
Of interesting note is the 320 is now receiving EBDs with one heading to MB for type training this coming week. Whether these are new ones or a reallocation of the existing batch, I'm not sure. That's interesting, I'd imagine they would be a new batch seeing as the initial plan was to order just over a hundred, with the 280 probably the final route to have EBDs and to take the EBDs into the three digit figures I'd say 131 over the 280 but yes the 131 and 320 would possibly be the entire batch. Wright's may then kick on the 99/269/401 and 151 next year.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 20, 2024 10:29:13 GMT
I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason. Did I say otherwise about operators know what they doing? why is is fine for plenty of others to speculation / make suggestions but not me?
There have been photos across various groups of buses being delivered but no actual confirmation of how many so hence my comment about buses entering service on routes that are ready for them. It really is not a big hardship to move buses around now they have LED blinds and have seen this happen with other companies including Go Ahead.
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Oct 20, 2024 10:50:35 GMT
It may just be a little OCD but the placement of all those stickers on the offside is a mess! 'I am an Electric Bus' too big for its spot shoehorned in by the the vent (?) and camera (which makes it look off centre too) and advert frame. Roundel nearly touching the window. USB sticker just 'floating' without being aligned with anything else. GAL logo not aligned vertically with nothing neither. Only the green leaf looks decently placed! Can't argue with that - the blind is also annoying me given the destination should be New Cross Gate (and arguably, the blinds should be update to say "New Cross Gate, Sainsburys" IMO) New Cross is a curtailment point on 321 (last stop being Marquis of Granby/Goldsmiths) so I think it just so happens that New Cross is being shown here. I do agree though that both 321 & P13 should be showing New Cross Gate, Sainsbury's.
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 20, 2024 11:28:21 GMT
But why should the 333s buses go to the 473 when the 473 batch itself is only running a few weeks behind? You'd then need to go through the huge trouble of either reallocating a batch or have a massive swap of fleets when SW actually is ready. Operators know what they're doing in cases like this and if buses go into storage there's usually a good reason. Musical chairs appeals to some....! When it comes to the SL4 fleet, I could see the logic of running them into service on other EV routes like the 69 and 262/473, or even as refurb floats (for 115 fleet for example) without branding applied, though I doubt this will happen realistically. Of interesting note is the 320 is now receiving EBDs with one heading to MB for type training this coming week. Whether these are new ones or a reallocation of the existing batch, I'm not sure. Would be nice to have them on the 115. It is a busy route and it doesn't seem like there's that much space for people to sit/stand. However it's a much better layout than the E400 City lower deck. They were able to put Ee's on the 35 to allow vehicles to be refurbished so I wouldn't be surprised if they bring EBDs on the route, given Gemini 3s and Evosetis never stray on the route, given 2 different garages and drivers not being type trained for them at DS.
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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 20, 2024 11:41:41 GMT
I am hoping the buses enter service as and where infrastructure is ready. Would be a waste for the 333 examples to go into storage when they could be used on the 473 for example. I am assuming SW is not going to be wired up for sometime.
It seems buses are not being delivered in numerical order so they could have a shift around as required.
The 333 batch could ideally be allocated to the 89, in essence the two routes using each other's fleet for the time being. If done in time the E/WVLs from the 89 could be used for the 217 Would be lovely, but I suspect the 89 will be stuck with its Es and WVLs for a long time to come, and the 217 will have to use something else.
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Post by cl54 on Oct 20, 2024 11:49:56 GMT
The 333 batch could ideally be allocated to the 89, in essence the two routes using each other's fleet for the time being. If done in time the E/WVLs from the 89 could be used for the 217 Would be lovely, but I suspect the 89 will be stuck with its Es and WVLs for a long time to come, and the 217 will have to use something else. BX charging capacity is a factor at the moment. Potentially only enough for the 132. The 89 is getting hybrids.
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