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Post by adl on Oct 20, 2024 11:52:26 GMT
Just read on The Londoner on a post on the comments that EBDs are due at MB next week for type training on the 320, not sure if this is a new batch being ordered or whether it may simply be using the ones intended for the 333 whilst the 333 cannot? Not sure if anyone knows anything, of course I have no idea if the poster is credible just thought I’d share as first time I’ve heard of the 320 involved in this mix although I guess if the plan is for it use the 333s batch it could release buses alongside the 321/473 for the 99 group & 217.
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Post by cl54 on Oct 20, 2024 11:54:19 GMT
Charlton curtailments on the 486 are annoying during the week but why are they happening on Sundays when the nearby retail parks are so busy?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 11:54:21 GMT
Can't argue with that - the blind is also annoying me given the destination should be New Cross Gate (and arguably, the blinds should be update to say "New Cross Gate, Sainsburys" IMO) New Cross is a curtailment point on 321 (last stop being Marquis of Granby/Goldsmiths) so I think it just so happens that New Cross is being shown here. I do agree though that both 321 & P13 should be showing New Cross Gate, Sainsbury's. Furthermore, the staff who make sure Sainsbury's is included in the destination displays would get extra Nectar points as a result
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 11:55:55 GMT
The 333 batch could ideally be allocated to the 89, in essence the two routes using each other's fleet for the time being. If done in time the E/WVLs from the 89 could be used for the 217 Would be lovely, but I suspect the 89 will be stuck with its Es and WVLs for a long time to come, and the 217 will have to use something else. I think he meant route 333 keeping MHVs and route 89 gaining EBDs, then swapping these once SW has been electrified.
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Post by PGAT on Oct 20, 2024 12:38:05 GMT
Just read on The Londoner on a post on the comments that EBDs are due at MB next week for type training on the 320, not sure if this is a new batch being ordered or whether it may simply be using the ones intended for the 333 whilst the 333 cannot? Not sure if anyone knows anything, of course I have no idea if the poster is credible just thought I’d share as first time I’ve heard of the 320 involved in this mix although I guess if the plan is for it use the 333s batch it could release buses alongside the 321/473 for the 99 group & 217. I thought the EBDs are too long for the 320?
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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 20, 2024 15:13:15 GMT
Can't argue with that - the blind is also annoying me given the destination should be New Cross Gate (and arguably, the blinds should be update to say "New Cross Gate, Sainsburys" IMO) New Cross is way too vague really. Unusal really when more qualifying points have made a return like Ilford, Hainault Street and Holborn Viaduct etc. Looks like it's got different seats to the other Go Ahead buses? I'm not a local to the area so I just assumed it was by New Cross LO Station! Which of course it isn't as it's by New Cross Gate Station. Very frustrating!
Edit: I assume maybe a curtailment point?
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Post by matthieu1221 on Oct 20, 2024 15:15:54 GMT
It may just be a little OCD but the placement of all those stickers on the offside is a mess! 'I am an Electric Bus' too big for its spot shoehorned in by the the vent (?) and camera (which makes it look off centre too) and advert frame. Roundel nearly touching the window. USB sticker just 'floating' without being aligned with anything else. GAL logo not aligned vertically with nothing neither. Only the green leaf looks decently placed! A disappointment for some of us including myself is the company name being withdrawn from the front of the bus. Well, on these buses there wouldn't be room anyway! I think I prefer the look of the new E400EV to the new BYD, but neither of these are as good as the E400City or E400MMC bodywork. Not too fussed by the loss of the operator logo at the front to be frank. But, what I don't get is why the operator logo is under the staircase and not under the driver's window as it tends to be on the MMCs for example? That looks very neat.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 20, 2024 15:16:11 GMT
Just read on The Londoner on a post on the comments that EBDs are due at MB next week for type training on the 320, not sure if this is a new batch being ordered or whether it may simply be using the ones intended for the 333 whilst the 333 cannot? Not sure if anyone knows anything, of course I have no idea if the poster is credible just thought I’d share as first time I’ve heard of the 320 involved in this mix although I guess if the plan is for it use the 333s batch it could release buses alongside the 321/473 for the 99 group & 217. I thought the EBDs are too long for the 320? The EBD's are the same length as the 160's BYD Citys so the Catford section will be ok and the southern section of the 320 is more than capable of handling EBD's as 10.8m Omnicity DD's & 12m Omnicitys have been used on that section before.
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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 20, 2024 15:33:21 GMT
Would be lovely, but I suspect the 89 will be stuck with its Es and WVLs for a long time to come, and the 217 will have to use something else. BX charging capacity is a factor at the moment. Potentially only enough for the 132. The 89 is getting hybrids. To be pedantic, clearly there’s also enough juice there to deal with the B13 too. The 89 won’t get any hybrids of any sort unless SW gets sorted out for electric buses, and that doesn’t appear to be anywhere close, so the fact it should have MHVs is an utterly moot point - it won’t get them remotely soon.
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 20, 2024 15:51:31 GMT
Would be lovely, but I suspect the 89 will be stuck with its Es and WVLs for a long time to come, and the 217 will have to use something else. BX charging capacity is a factor at the moment. Potentially only enough for the 132. The 89 is getting hybrids. Well they are going to add further charging for the 99 group which will all receive electrics, so technically they could use the chargers for the 89, but I don't think they will do that either, and the 89 will have to carry on with it's current allocation until Stockwell is electrified, which I don't see happening this year at all.
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Post by cl54 on Oct 20, 2024 16:03:43 GMT
BX charging capacity is a factor at the moment. Potentially only enough for the 132. The 89 is getting hybrids. Well they are going to add further charging for the 99 group which will all receive electrics, so technically they could use the chargers for the 89, but I don't think they will do that either, and the 89 will have to carry on with it's current allocation until Stockwell is electrified, which I don't see happening this year at all. The charging capacity upgrade won't be for some time and not for the new January contracts.
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Post by london23 on Oct 20, 2024 16:25:49 GMT
If Stockwell isn't going to be Electrified by the middle of next middle of next year could the 89 instead of the MHV's take the 171 or 172 EH's or same of 188 WHV's.
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Post by london23 on Oct 20, 2024 16:42:38 GMT
There will be EH's from the 171,172,SL6 and the 188 WHV's and even the 22 MHV's once they get there Electric Buses.
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 20, 2024 17:10:36 GMT
If Stockwell isn't going to be Electrified by the middle of next middle of next year could the 89 instead of the MHV's take the 171 or 172 EH's or same of 188 WHV's. The route isn't really in a rush to receive hybrids, unless there is a plan for the Es and WVLs, which doesn't really seem to be the case. I think Go Ahead have a seperate plan for the EH's and WHV's that will be released from the routes that you've mentioned, additionally, BX already have Evosetis for the 601, which allows for more flexibility, rather than introducing another type.
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 20, 2024 17:15:18 GMT
What is the purpose of the following on the front of the BD11? I would assume 1 is for charging, is the other some sort of radar or something? Attachments:
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