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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 12, 2024 19:02:34 GMT
The TVR of the 355/360/444/B16 is 51, so I assume two of those routes are getting an extra spare. The 299/389/399 are able to take 10.2m as well, however I don’t think they would suit 10.2m Kites will be ordered. What I assume may happen is that the 299/389/399 and R2/R11 would receive the 9.9m E200EV. I imagine the 355 probably will get an extra spare given it's apparently moving to SW and can't share vehicles with the 170 plus it's PVR of 13 puts it in a twilight zone where most tend to only receive one spare but some past routes with a PVR of 13 have received two. Hard to say which of the other routes would receive the extra spare though. The 360 would likely get an extra spare too, as the only other SDs at Q will be the much shorter 9.7m SEes on the 100/484. The 444 and B16 though should be fine with the usual number of spares (1 each in this case). Will be interesting to see what length the 360 gets. I'm not sure the route needs the extra capacity of 12m, clearly it only got the ex-RA SEes for operational reasons (same with the 444 too). If the 360 were to return to 10.8m again, it might be worth moving to SW to give a common fleet with the 355 (or could decide to keep the 355 at Q). |
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 12, 2024 19:19:18 GMT
There shouldn’t be any unallocated, the first 75 for the 321 (18), 101 (10), 333 (17), 473 (10) and SL4 (20), now plus another 38 for the 129 (25) and 320 (13) The Kites I find more interesting though: 53 Kites, where for? The 355 (14), 360 (12), 444 (13)and B16 (11)? Also the 289/399/389 and R11 will be interesting, considering the shortest Kite is 10.2 and they need around 9.6m length vehicles Good to see some variety back in the GAL fleet, but don’t think it’ll last after it’ll likely become another monotony, this time of endless Wright vehicles for at least the next couple of years The TVR of the 355/360/444/B16 is 51, so I assume two of those routes are getting an extra spare. The 299/389/399 are able to take 10.2m as well, however I don’t think they would suit 10.2m Kites will be ordered. What I assume may happen is that the 299/389/399 and R2/R11 would receive the 9.9m E200EV. Even though 10.2m can fit, it likely depends on what length TFL had specified for the contract. Assuming the 299 and R routes get something around 9.7m, it will be interesting to see what is ordered. The E200EV could be considered, but it isn't necessarily available to order yet, so depends how long they are able to wait. Otherwise I think the BZL and Metrocity are the only options available now, both being unfamiliar types for Go Ahead. Or there's also the possibility that Wright could be introducing a shorter length for the GB Kite? Previously certain options haven't been formally announced until after an order was placed (such as the shorter BZLs on the 384). |
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Post by jacques on Nov 12, 2024 19:36:10 GMT
With all the ongoing rumours of the 355 moving to SW, I'm curious has it ever been based at SW in the past?
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Post by atb123 on Nov 12, 2024 19:57:07 GMT
I imagine the 355 probably will get an extra spare given it's apparently moving to SW and can't share vehicles with the 170 plus it's PVR of 13 puts it in a twilight zone where most tend to only receive one spare but some past routes with a PVR of 13 have received two. Hard to say which of the other routes would receive the extra spare though. The 360 would likely get an extra spare too, as the only other SDs at Q will be the much shorter 9.7m SEes on the 100/484. The 444 and B16 though should be fine with the usual number of spares (1 each in this case). Will be interesting to see what length the 360 gets. I'm not sure the route needs the extra capacity of 12m, clearly it only got the ex-RA SEes for operational reasons (same with the 444 too). If the 360 were to return to 10.8m again, it might be worth moving to SW to give a common fleet with the 355 (or could decide to keep the 355 at Q). I was hearing that 360 may move to RA once 153 goes to Metroline? Or will Go Ahead close RA if they lose the 214 |
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Post by atb123 on Nov 12, 2024 20:00:46 GMT
With all the ongoing rumours of the 355 moving to SW, I'm curious has it ever been based at SW in the past? It was at AL when the route started at 1990-2012 Then was at Q between 2012-16 Then 2016-2023 the route was at C and then returning to Q for the past yr So its the first time its at SW |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 12, 2024 20:03:05 GMT
With all the ongoing rumours of the 355 moving to SW, I'm curious has it ever been based at SW in the past? It was at AL when the route started at 1990-2012 Then was at Q between 2012-16 Then 2016-2023 the route was at C and then returning to Q for the past yr So its the first time its at SW Which seems surprising really when it ran terminated/ran through Stockwell from 1990 to 2005. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 12, 2024 20:10:25 GMT
E4 withdrawn from commercial fleet and has been stripped for parts with a cheeky update to the fleet code on the rear  E6 withdrawn EH134 reported to be at MG from SW AE20 to SEN59 AE21 to SEN62 AE22 to SEN63 AE23 to SEN61 AE24 to SEN60 AE25 to SEN58 AE26 to SEN64 This reminds me of how SE1-17 were badged on their roofs as LDPSE1 etc. |
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Post by vxm on Nov 12, 2024 23:18:29 GMT
EBD24 has been seen at the Euro Bus Expo at National Exhibition Centre. Potentially registered as LF74UAA? What is going on here? GAL’s EBD’s are arriving very quickly all of a sudden but SW’s hasn’t even started their electrification process
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Post by ! ALEED on Nov 12, 2024 23:18:42 GMT
How long will the Electroliner demonstrator remain with Go Ahead for?
I assume it will be replaced once the 151 supposedly gets Electroliners?
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Post by danorak on Nov 12, 2024 23:39:11 GMT
The 360 would likely get an extra spare too, as the only other SDs at Q will be the much shorter 9.7m SEes on the 100/484. The 444 and B16 though should be fine with the usual number of spares (1 each in this case). Will be interesting to see what length the 360 gets. I'm not sure the route needs the extra capacity of 12m, clearly it only got the ex-RA SEes for operational reasons (same with the 444 too). If the 360 were to return to 10.8m again, it might be worth moving to SW to give a common fleet with the 355 (or could decide to keep the 355 at Q). I was hearing that 360 may move to RA once 153 goes to Metroline? Or will Go Ahead close RA if they lose the 214 I have no inside track to GAL's thinking but, given that they are already squeezed for space, I cannot see them abandoning a fully electrified, centrally located garage. |
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Post by londonbuses on Nov 12, 2024 23:45:03 GMT
The 360 would likely get an extra spare too, as the only other SDs at Q will be the much shorter 9.7m SEes on the 100/484. The 444 and B16 though should be fine with the usual number of spares (1 each in this case). Will be interesting to see what length the 360 gets. I'm not sure the route needs the extra capacity of 12m, clearly it only got the ex-RA SEes for operational reasons (same with the 444 too). If the 360 were to return to 10.8m again, it might be worth moving to SW to give a common fleet with the 355 (or could decide to keep the 355 at Q). I was hearing that 360 may move to RA once 153 goes to Metroline? Or will Go Ahead close RA if they lose the 214 I suspect either the 100 or 360 will move to RA, unless GAL win another route out of RA such as the 46. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 13, 2024 11:32:14 GMT
It was at AL when the route started at 1990-2012 Then was at Q between 2012-16 Then 2016-2023 the route was at C and then returning to Q for the past yr So its the first time its at SW Which seems surprising really when it ran terminated/ran through Stockwell from 1990 to 2005. Part of that time it only passed Stockwell Station in one direction, the Brixton bound buses routed from Clapham North via Landor Road as the 'Palace bound 322 does now |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 13, 2024 11:34:46 GMT
I was hearing that 360 may move to RA once 153 goes to Metroline? Or will Go Ahead close RA if they lose the 214 I have no inside track to GAL's thinking but, given that they are already squeezed for space, I cannot see them abandoning a fully electrified, centrally located garage. Out of interest who presently owns the grounds RA is built on? |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 13, 2024 12:09:49 GMT
EBD24 has been seen at the Euro Bus Expo at National Exhibition Centre. Potentially registered as LF74UAA? What is going on here? GAL’s EBD’s are arriving very quickly all of a sudden but SW’s hasn’t even started their electrification process Deliveries were not quite all of a sudden as the buses were already all but built when rumour first appeared that Go Ahead were interested in the BYD BD11s, the firm in essence keeping tight lip about them (as with Metroline with some of theirs now also witnessed seen). Regarding SW not being ready with infrastructure, neither is PM as most of their new SEes for the P12 are still being used elsewhere, the 355 being one of the routes. It's likely for now the 333 will continue with the MHVs with the EBDs used elsewhere, perhaps at least one held for SW using a remote charger or at the very least given a visit to the depot |
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Post by WH241 on Nov 13, 2024 12:13:59 GMT
EBD24 has been seen at the Euro Bus Expo at National Exhibition Centre. Potentially registered as LF74UAA? What is going on here? GAL’s EBD’s are arriving very quickly all of a sudden but SW’s hasn’t even started their electrification process Deliveries were not quite all of a sudden as the buses were already all but built when rumour first appeared that Go Ahead were interested in the BYD BD11s, the firm in essence keeping tight lip about them (as with Metroline with some of theirs now also witnessed seen). Regarding SW not being ready with infrastructure, neither is PM as most of their new SEes for the P12 are still being used elsewhere, the 355 being one of the routes. It's likely for now the 333 will continue with the MHVs with the EBDs used elsewhere, perhaps at least one held for SW using a remote charger or at the very least given a visit to the depot This is what I have been saying all along no way are they building and shipping the buses this quick. They probably have 100s built and just adjust the interior to which ever operator takes them. |
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