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Post by snowman on Jun 13, 2009 11:06:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2009 11:17:56 GMT
Wow that is a nice livery I must say  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2009 11:58:58 GMT
Thats what I like about bus travel out of london, especially by the coast. Bus travel is either really bad or really good, with route branding, new top of the range buses etc.
Route X53 (Poole to Exeter via Weymouth, Bridport, Lyme Regis) is a good example
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Post by vjaska on Jun 13, 2009 13:55:15 GMT
Thats what I like about bus travel out of london, especially by the coast. Bus travel is either really bad or really good, with route branding, new top of the range buses etc. Route X53 (Poole to Exeter via Weymouth, Bridport, Lyme Regis) New top of the range buses doesn't always mean its a good thing though but I agree with the livery and route branding  . |
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Post by snowman on Jul 6, 2009 20:04:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 9:24:18 GMT
Could be saving them money as well if it saves 3 weeks of Labour. I suspect though some of the time saving will be from putting more people on the build. Still sounds as thouh they are making good cost savings as well as increasing production. |
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Post by M1104 on Jul 12, 2009 12:03:20 GMT
Could be saving them money as well if it saves 3 weeks of Labour. I suspect though some of the time saving will be from putting more people on the build. Still sounds as thouh they are making good cost savings as well as increasing production. I wonder if this time saving production time would attract any London customers, especially where tenders for new buses tend to be awarded less than 6 months prior to start dates. |
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Post by greeny253 on Jul 13, 2009 18:45:34 GMT
Could be saving them money as well if it saves 3 weeks of Labour. I suspect though some of the time saving will be from putting more people on the build. Still sounds as thouh they are making good cost savings as well as increasing production. As long as by cutting time (and probably costs) they don't cut on build quality like some of the ADL buses that have found their way to us then doing it in 3 weeks is fine  |
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Post by john on Jul 13, 2009 23:24:06 GMT
Well, after reading the article it sounds like a pretty simple accounting practice too. In theory, the costs being saved by not having Work In Progress means that Optare will have more money available to invest into the company, which would mean investing in improving manufacturing techniques or machinery.
On paper, it's a very good plan, both financially and productivity wise. I'm sure this could well interest alot of London operators, possibly Metroline, Go-Ahead and possibly even Transdev, however i think it'll be smaller operators, those without the financial clout of the bigger London operators, who'll find this more of a benefit as they may be able to raise enough capital to invest in new buses, and get a return in a very short period
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Post by snowman on Jul 23, 2009 11:34:14 GMT
It appears Optare have postposed the Rapta double decker for a while, it will be renamed when it eventually appears in 2010 Optare are confirmed in this interview with Jim Sumner (their CEO) that they are working on the new bus for London (6 companies are involved, only other one I've heard named is Alexander-Dennis) Appears Optare aren't convinced about cost-benefit of hybrids as they only give about 30% reduction in fuel, so recovering the extra initial cost is marginal. However re-engining to give low carbon bus makes more sence www.busandcoach.com/featureStory.aspx?id=2580 |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 23, 2009 12:58:34 GMT
It appears Optare have postposed the Rapta double decker for a while, it will be renamed when it eventually appears in 2010 Optare are confirmed in this interview with Jim Sumner (their CEO) that they are working on the new bus for London (6 companies are involved, only other one I've heard named is Alexander-Dennis) Appears Optare aren't convinced about cost-benefit of hybrids as they only give about 30% reduction in fuel, so recovering the extra initial cost is marginal. However re-engining to give low carbon bus makes more sence www.busandcoach.com/featureStory.aspx?id=2580The six manufacturers are Alexander Dennis, Wrightbus, Optare, Mercedes-Benz, Scania and Spanish Bodybuilder Hispano |
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Post by snowman on Sept 20, 2009 10:10:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 14:34:01 GMT
Id love to see this in london! But i thought this was the whole point of the Versa...... |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 20, 2009 20:07:58 GMT
Id love to see this in london! But i thought this was the whole point of the Versa...... No, the Versa is entirely different and replaced the Esteem. This helps it compete with the 9.3m length that ADL offer as a dual door option on the e200. |
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Post by john on Sept 20, 2009 21:18:44 GMT
Id love to see this in london! But i thought this was the whole point of the Versa...... No, the Versa is entirely different and replaced the Esteem. This helps it compete with the 9.3m length that ADL offer as a dual door option on the e200. It's a great idea when you think on what operators would look at the Solo as a viable option. I'm certain First and Metrobus would look at a dual doored Solo, possibly so would ELBG |
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