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Post by mondraker275 on Feb 24, 2018 9:55:40 GMT
I’m not condoning it but I can understand it happening at Walthamstow Central Bus Station due to, I’m assuming, a short single phase which must frustrate drivers when they get blocked in. It happens a lot at the Brixton Police Station junction due to short signal phasings for both Gresham Road & the contraflow bus lane where buses jump the red light. The phasing at Walthamstow is variable and is now properly linked to the traffic lights at Hoe St. As the exit has been widened so left and right turns are separate there is far less queuing in the bus station. The big problem is idiotic car drivers who do not understand what yellow boxes are and thus block the entrance and exits. I can understand bus drivers getting mightily "fed up" with this. If the police were there in plain clothes they'd be able to book about 100 people an hour. It is truly astonishing to stand there and watch the sheer level of driving incompetence. Like what is the point of having yellow box junctions when they are not being enforced. Maybe the greater incompetence lies there. I dont mind drivers carefully creeping past reds when it is safe, as you do not know sometimes with traffic lights especially temporary ones. The one inside Canning Town Station is one that will forever frustrate me, adds so much unneccessary time to journeys.
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Post by VPL630 on Feb 24, 2018 18:14:09 GMT
While we are on the subject of Walthamstow, I believe a 69 has an argument with the Bell on the corner coming out of the bus station, it lost
Also why isn’t Hoe street finished, why is there never any work going on ? It’s frustrating knowing they messed it up but even worse knowing that no visible work is taking place and even more annoying when it’s been this horrible mess for around 2 years
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 24, 2018 21:56:03 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks?
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Post by busoccultation on Feb 24, 2018 22:09:51 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks? D6, D7 & D8 all went from First to Go-Ahead on the same day back in 2011. E9 & E10 and U1, U2, U3, U4 & U5 all went First to Metroline on the same day back in 2013 as part of the First London sale.
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 24, 2018 22:11:53 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks? If you count prefixed routes, Metroline lost H1/2/3 to Arriva in 2006 and will get the H2/3 back in June. London sovereign will get the H18/19 from arriva in September (although they are the same contract)
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 24, 2018 22:16:19 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks? D6, D7 & D8 all went from First to Go-Ahead on the same day back in 2011. E9 & E10 and U1, U2, U3, U4 & U5 all went First to Metroline on the same day back in 2013 as part of the First London sale. The first sale also included 206/207 and 223/224 to Metroline, 25/26, 30/31 and W14/W15 to TT
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Post by COBO on Feb 24, 2018 22:19:11 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks? If you count prefixed routes, Metroline lost E9 and E10 on the same day to abellio in 2014. Metroline also lost H1/2/3 to Arriva in 2006 and will get the H2/3 back in June. London sovereign will get the H18/19 from arriva in September (although they are the same contract) Metroline lost the E9 to Abellio in 2016 and Metroline lost the E10 to Arriva in 2014.
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 24, 2018 22:25:27 GMT
If you count prefixed routes, Metroline lost E9 and E10 on the same day to abellio in 2014. Metroline also lost H1/2/3 to Arriva in 2006 and will get the H2/3 back in June. London sovereign will get the H18/19 from arriva in September (although they are the same contract) Metroline lost the E9 to Abellio in 2016 and Metroline lost the E10 to Arriva in 2014. Sorry my mistake. For some reason I had abellio in my head for the E10 🤦♂️
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 24, 2018 22:36:54 GMT
TLB refers to Metroline orders for EvoSetis being for their gains of routes 30 & 31 from Tower Transit (and incidentally route 274). I therefore wonder: has it often happened that routes with successive numbers have made the identical change of operator at the same time give or take a few weeks? D6, D7 & D8 all went from First to Go-Ahead on the same day back in 2011. E9 & E10 and U1, U2, U3, U4 & U5 all went First to Metroline on the same day back in 2013 as part of the First London sale. You've reminded me of routes R3 & R4 being sold from First to Go-Ahead at the same time. Admittedly it's tender changes that interest me in this context most, so thank you for the D routes example.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 24, 2018 22:47:02 GMT
D6, D7 & D8 all went from First to Go-Ahead on the same day back in 2011. E9 & E10 and U1, U2, U3, U4 & U5 all went First to Metroline on the same day back in 2013 as part of the First London sale. The first sale also included 206/207 and 223/224 to Metroline, 25/26, 30/31 and W14/W15 to TT The 25/26(and 30) all moved from Stagecoach to First on the same day 25.06.11, subsequently then novated to TT. 26 has already been lost to CTP, 30 is going to Metroline .... hope the future bodes well for the 25.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 24, 2018 23:57:33 GMT
The first sale also included 206/207 and 223/224 to Metroline, 25/26, 30/31 and W14/W15 to TT The 25/26(and 30) all moved from Stagecoach to First on the same day 25.06.11, subsequently then novated to TT. 26 has already been lost to CTP, 30 is going to Metroline .... hope the future bodes well for the 25. I think routes 24 & 25 both face retender in November 2019. Maybe both will move to a 3rd part operator on the same day such as Abellio (WL), GA (NP) or Arriva (AE).
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Feb 25, 2018 14:16:06 GMT
hope the future bodes well for the 25. I heard that Stagecoach has actually won the 25 last time, but when they found out the contract is a short rather than full 5 years, they... pulled out Still, I totally see them win it in 2019. TT won't be happy
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 25, 2018 14:29:25 GMT
hope the future bodes well for the 25. I heard that Stagecoach has actually won the 25 last time, but when they found out the contract is a short rather than full 5 years, they... pulled out Still, I totally see them win it in 2019. TT won't be happy If Stagecoach has won it, wouldn’t it have been mentioned on the tfl tender results page the reason why they weren’t awarded it?
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Feb 25, 2018 14:31:22 GMT
I heard that Stagecoach has actually won the 25 last time, but when they found out the contract is a short rather than full 5 years, they... pulled out Still, I totally see them win it in 2019. TT won't be happy If Stagecoach has won it, wouldn’t it have been mentioned on the tfl tender results page the reason why they weren’t awarded it? They pulled out which is different. As they withdrew, TT won it instead - so Stagecoach entry basically didn't count in the end. I know about Abellio and 120, but they didn't withdraw themselves
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 25, 2018 14:36:26 GMT
If Stagecoach has won it, wouldn’t it have been mentioned on the tfl tender results page the reason why they weren’t awarded it? They pulled out which is different. As they withdrew, TT won it instead - so Stagecoach entry basically didn't count in the end. I know about Abellio and 120, but they didn't withdraw themselves So if their bid did not count ... How could they have won it?
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