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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 13, 2018 19:13:48 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. Indeed, more likely they'll be enticed by word of mouth from friends or families or even more so from walking past a fast food place - well that's how I'm normally tempted in anyway Agreed, whenever me and my friends go out we don't usually pre-plan where to eat. Most of the time it's a case of walking through the Westfield food court and walking into somewhere that looks good.
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Post by COBO on May 14, 2018 11:52:31 GMT
I don’t know why some 395s don’t have there Ibus on. When I look at LVF there always one missing.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 14, 2018 20:55:52 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. I've heard on the 333 I was one that someone was speaking to their friend like wtf how do you not know what coke is then silence fell on the top deck and everyone started staring😂😂😂 About the adverts,I think producers are trying desperately for the ads to work as an LT on the 3 is covered with coke ads on the top deck,like literally squashed up against each other
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Post by M1104 on May 14, 2018 21:26:20 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. May as well ban buses from stopping outside relevant junk food outlets as that's likely to catch punter's attention more than bus adverts.
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Post by snoggle on May 15, 2018 1:12:04 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. Diamond Geezer had an article about this on his blog the other day. He made 20 different public transport jnys on TfL services and counted the adverts that could be deemed to be fast food related. He checked in stations, at bus shelters and on vehicles. The numbers he found were miniscule which suggests that either the Mayor has no idea how many relevant adverts there are on the TfL controlled transport network or it's gesture politics of the worst kind. I leave it to the reader to decide which (based on their own prejudices about the Mayor). There clearly are risks related to obesity and poor diet but the best way to tackle this is through education really and I don't just mean via schools. I say this as someone who's always been on the large / heavy side - even when I was vastly fitter than I am now (cycling 100 miles a week / being able to do sit ups and press ups - ah fond and distant memories). I don't eat any "junk food" at all - it is literally decades since I had a McDs / KFC and I never ever buy take aways for home delivery (largely because the prices are ridiculous and I can cook a good chinese / indian / thai meal for less money). I also stopped buying fizzy drinks when I stopped working. I also don't frequent coffee shops either - another huge waste of money. I also try hard to avoid buying ready meals unless they are vastly discounted. My main reasons for being a fat lump are a sweet tooth and relative lack of exercise. Even commuting to work and all the (relative) activity of working in an office and dashing between meetings add up to a lot of calories burnt and muscle exercised. You just don't realise it until it's not there. There is nothing wrong in principle with people exercising good or bad choices about what they eat or drink and how they burn the calories. However the poor / bad choices will eventually have consequences for your health - I speak from direct experience. The best advice I can give any youngster is learn to cook and maintain a good basic range of ingredients / spices and to "force" yourself to eat those things you are / were faddy about as a kid. I was never a fan of salads when young but I now make sure I eat them and I can now just about tolerate raw tomato. I've also learnt how to make varied and interesting salads. Same with cooking veg - Indian and Chinese cuisine are brilliant for varied and different veggie dishes. End of life lecture.
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Post by sid on May 15, 2018 5:21:14 GMT
I can't see what the ban is meant to achieve - it is evidently meant to target youth obesity, but it is hard to imagine a youth who has never heard of, say, Macdonalds or Coke but decided to give them a try because of an advert on a bus. Diamond Geezer had an article about this on his blog the other day. He made 20 different public transport jnys on TfL services and counted the adverts that could be deemed to be fast food related. He checked in stations, at bus shelters and on vehicles. The numbers he found were miniscule which suggests that either the Mayor has no idea how many relevant adverts there are on the TfL controlled transport network or it's gesture politics of the worst kind. I leave it to the reader to decide which (based on their own prejudices about the Mayor). There clearly are risks related to obesity and poor diet but the best way to tackle this is through education really and I don't just mean via schools. I say this as someone who's always been on the large / heavy side - even when I was vastly fitter than I am now (cycling 100 miles a week / being able to do sit ups and press ups - ah fond and distant memories). I don't eat any "junk food" at all - it is literally decades since I had a McDs / KFC and I never ever buy take aways for home delivery (largely because the prices are ridiculous and I can cook a good chinese / indian / thai meal for less money). I also stopped buying fizzy drinks when I stopped working. I also don't frequent coffee shops either - another huge waste of money. I also try hard to avoid buying ready meals unless they are vastly discounted. My main reasons for being a fat lump are a sweet tooth and relative lack of exercise. Even commuting to work and all the (relative) activity of working in an office and dashing between meetings add up to a lot of calories burnt and muscle exercised. You just don't realise it until it's not there. There is nothing wrong in principle with people exercising good or bad choices about what they eat or drink and how they burn the calories. However the poor / bad choices will eventually have consequences for your health - I speak from direct experience. The best advice I can give any youngster is learn to cook and maintain a good basic range of ingredients / spices and to "force" yourself to eat those things you are / were faddy about as a kid. I was never a fan of salads when young but I now make sure I eat them and I can now just about tolerate raw tomato. I've also learnt how to make varied and interesting salads. Same with cooking veg - Indian and Chinese cuisine are brilliant for varied and different veggie dishes. End of life lecture. All I've noticed are ads for Subway and sugar free coca cola, junk food seems to be readily associated with McDonalds, Burger King and KFC and I very rarely visit any of them although I do have an occasional Subway. A favourite eatery of mine is Chillies Tandoori at St Georges Circus, excellent food to eat in or takeaway at very reasonable prices and very friendly staff. This ban is probably just a token gesture although it probably pre-empts a wider ban on junk food advertising.
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Post by cl54 on May 15, 2018 6:47:31 GMT
Diamond Geezer had an article about this on his blog the other day. He made 20 different public transport jnys on TfL services and counted the adverts that could be deemed to be fast food related. He checked in stations, at bus shelters and on vehicles. The numbers he found were miniscule which suggests that either the Mayor has no idea how many relevant adverts there are on the TfL controlled transport network or it's gesture politics of the worst kind. I leave it to the reader to decide which (based on their own prejudices about the Mayor). There clearly are risks related to obesity and poor diet but the best way to tackle this is through education really and I don't just mean via schools. I say this as someone who's always been on the large / heavy side - even when I was vastly fitter than I am now (cycling 100 miles a week / being able to do sit ups and press ups - ah fond and distant memories). I don't eat any "junk food" at all - it is literally decades since I had a McDs / KFC and I never ever buy take aways for home delivery (largely because the prices are ridiculous and I can cook a good chinese / indian / thai meal for less money). I also stopped buying fizzy drinks when I stopped working. I also don't frequent coffee shops either - another huge waste of money. I also try hard to avoid buying ready meals unless they are vastly discounted. My main reasons for being a fat lump are a sweet tooth and relative lack of exercise. Even commuting to work and all the (relative) activity of working in an office and dashing between meetings add up to a lot of calories burnt and muscle exercised. You just don't realise it until it's not there. There is nothing wrong in principle with people exercising good or bad choices about what they eat or drink and how they burn the calories. However the poor / bad choices will eventually have consequences for your health - I speak from direct experience. The best advice I can give any youngster is learn to cook and maintain a good basic range of ingredients / spices and to "force" yourself to eat those things you are / were faddy about as a kid. I was never a fan of salads when young but I now make sure I eat them and I can now just about tolerate raw tomato. I've also learnt how to make varied and interesting salads. Same with cooking veg - Indian and Chinese cuisine are brilliant for varied and different veggie dishes. End of life lecture. All I've noticed are ads for Subway and sugar free coca cola, junk food seems to be readily associated with McDonalds, Burger King and KFC and I very rarely visit any of them although I do have an occasional Subway. A favourite eatery of mine is Chillies Tandoori at St Georges Circus, excellent food to eat in or takeaway at very reasonable prices and very friendly staff. This ban is probably just a token gesture although it probably pre-empts a wider ban on junk food advertising. Whilst there are hardly any ads on the system there are promotions on ticket gates for local branches etc. It seems this type of promotion brought in £27m last year according to accounts.
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Post by M1104 on May 15, 2018 8:47:28 GMT
The best advice I can give any youngster is learn to cook and maintain a good basic range of ingredients / spices and to "force" yourself to eat those things you are / were faddy about as a kid. I was never a fan of salads when young but I now make sure I eat them and I can now just about tolerate raw tomato. I've also learnt how to make varied and interesting salads. Same with cooking veg - Indian and Chinese cuisine are brilliant for varied and different veggie dishes. End of life lecture. In addition I would advise youngsters to drink plenty of water, ideally the equivalent of 8 glasses throughout the day as it helps abundantly for when the body detoxes. Ideally try not to eat after 10 p.m as the detox is then more effective when it kicks in at around 2 a.m. Ideally also do some form of exercise for about 30 minutes each day, whether it be cycling around the block, a brisk walk or even 'on-the-spot' walking (or walking back and forth throughout indoors) where the whole body is working just the same. If one lives in a tower block try using the stairs at least part way, depending on how high up one lives and what load they may be carrying on each upward trek. Bearing in mind that everyone is different, all these little things plus what you already mention do add up to one's body being grateful.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 15, 2018 10:52:03 GMT
The best advice I can give any youngster is learn to cook and maintain a good basic range of ingredients / spices and to "force" yourself to eat those things you are / were faddy about as a kid. I was never a fan of salads when young but I now make sure I eat them and I can now just about tolerate raw tomato. I've also learnt how to make varied and interesting salads. Same with cooking veg - Indian and Chinese cuisine are brilliant for varied and different veggie dishes. End of life lecture. In addition I would advise youngsters to drink plenty of water, ideally the equivalent of 8 glasses throughout the day as it helps abundantly for when the body detoxes. Ideally try not to eat after 10 p.m as the detox is then more effective when it kicks in at around 2 a.m. Ideally also do some form of exercise for about 30 minutes each day, whether it be cycling around the block, a brisk walk or even 'on-the-spot' walking (or walking back and forth throughout indoors) where the whole body is working just the same. If one lives in a tower block try using the stairs at least part way, depending on how high up one lives and what load they may be carrying on each upward trek. Bearing in mind that everyone is different, all these little things plus what you already mention do add up to one's body being grateful. 10pm is probably the time most youngsters are just starting to think about dinner I think the biggest reason why young people seem to get takeaways and fast food is not because they can't cook well, more so that it's just readily available. I know our lunch breaks almost always consist of a fast food outlet of some kind, maybe a more civilised restaurant if we decide to treat ourselves. Pricing is usually the major factor, anything that's "healthy" is usually priced much higher than junk food. For example the market at Goodge Street does some very nice cultural food from all over the globe, and has salads etc on offer but we're hardly going to pay £5 when just down the road you can get a meal for £2 at McDonald's, or a Sub for £3.49 at Subway. Exercise seems to be dependant on the type of person, some people absolutely loathe it while some people want to exercise everyday of their lives. Personally I'm a guy that sits on the fence, I don't try to overdo myself but my commute alone provides some decent areas for working out. Walking up the escalators at tube stations or even just navigating some of the bigger tube stations helps burn calories, even trying to keep yourself up on a train burns calories most of the time. Something else I quite enjoy is exercising while having fun, back when my cousin was 4/5 I'd often take him to the huge play areas and go in with him, it would certainly help my fitness. Me and some friends also occasionally go and have fun in various places like trampoline parks where we can exercise ourselves. It certainly helps with your fitness.
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 19, 2018 6:17:06 GMT
Since we're there on the subject of exercise, why not share up my case I am one of those lucky women with seemingly infinite metabolism so I seem to stay skinny even when I end up stuffing myself with sweets I'm an unapologetic chocoholic but since I don't do this cigarette-alcohol nonsense, chocolate is my only drug and a good coping aid haha. However saying I don't exercise would be a gross underestimation - I chase buses every day, that surely counts! But really, sometimes I end up running sizeable distances, like length between two bus stops; I might often also run at interchange areas at stations - e.g. jogging from the NR area at London Bridge to a tube platform only yesterday - I've lost count how many times I've done that. Definitely walked up enough escalators, even the one at Angel! My stamina is quite rad although it works in a strange way as I actually get breathless quite quickly, but if I get a grip and force myself to keep on running, ignore the tummyaches and all, I can last a really long time. I mean I did cross-country at school, and in Year 9 I've ran an around 2 mile course in the Chingford area for Waltham Forest where over 200 girls from years 8-9 took part - a rainy muddy day that was - and finished 22nd so not bad Another thing is though I don't actually eat much - which is funny given how much energy I have 🤔 I am a horribly picky eater, always been that way ever since I developed a level of conscience - I tend to point to the day when I said I'd have porridge no more aged 4 - it's been something Mum tried to stuff with me with when young but I always hated it and eventually protested! I used to do fizzy drinks while in secondary but sort of naturally came off it. Only get one once in a blue moon now. My favourite thing to drink is actually water, followed by tea. I also maintain no interest whatsoever with fast food, and as I said before the only thing I'd ever get from somewhere like McDonald's is a chocolate muffin and coke/pepsi as they are the same everywhere. Other stuff is just not to be trusted! All them nasty chemicals *shudders* I must admit I do like eating same stuff all over - dumblings, pancakes, rice, specific pizzas, salads with certain ingredients etc. I'm actually a vegetarian also, yet feel the same as when Parents still made me eat meat pre-18. So, what does the above bring into the debate? I dunno, but I seem to defy a lot of things that appear to be popular at the moment, like I can say I've only ever been tempted by ONE advert in my life, and that's for one of them "Clearasil" kind of product, as I still have acne somehow at 21 😖👎 (that's been when I was around 14 though). Food? Lol no, I know all the fast food ones are lies and propaganda. It's always been straight forward to me as well but one always tends to forget people don't think the same way as oneself. Do people really buy it??
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 8:43:11 GMT
I do love a McDonalds.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 19, 2018 20:40:27 GMT
I may be overreacting but I feel that this person has gone a bit too far www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdB5QfH3e0&t=7sI was alerted by a subscriber earlier about this (this video itself is old but in the users newest video there was a moment stating they would do another one) There is no reason to start making this kind of bulls**t and calling it comedy just to earn money on youtube People have a hobby : doesn't matter if it's football or buses,its still a hobby! I personally hate football but just because the majority like it and think its good doesn't mean that everyone has to like it. I find it disgraceful that they created this video And yet if you type in "awkward hobby football"-no results similar to search!! Why do bus enthusiasts always get picked on
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 20:51:42 GMT
I may be overreacting but I feel that this person has gone a bit too far www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdB5QfH3e0&t=7sI was alerted by a subscriber earlier about this (this video itself is old but in the users newest video there was a moment stating they would do another one) There is no reason to start making this kind of bulls**t and calling it comedy just to earn money on youtube People have a hobby : doesn't matter if it's football or buses,its still a hobby! I personally hate football but just because the majority like it and think its good doesn't mean that everyone has to like it. I find it disgraceful that they created this video And yet if you type in "awkward hobby football"-no results similar to search!! Why do bus enthusiasts always get picked on I might be speaking out of turn but your reaction is just what the poster of the videa was probably looking for.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 19, 2018 21:21:32 GMT
I may be overreacting but I feel that this person has gone a bit too far www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdB5QfH3e0&t=7sI was alerted by a subscriber earlier about this (this video itself is old but in the users newest video there was a moment stating they would do another one) There is no reason to start making this kind of bulls**t and calling it comedy just to earn money on youtube People have a hobby : doesn't matter if it's football or buses,its still a hobby! I personally hate football but just because the majority like it and think its good doesn't mean that everyone has to like it. I find it disgraceful that they created this video And yet if you type in "awkward hobby football"-no results similar to search!! Why do bus enthusiasts always get picked on I might be speaking out of turn but your reaction is just what the poster of the videa was probably looking for. Couldn't have put it better, the best action is probably to just ignore the whole video and get on with your life
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 20, 2018 7:29:25 GMT
Annnnnd does this guy have a hobby himself? No? Then his life is what's really sad. He can rot in his sad life of being boring Not watching this as don't wanna give prat the views
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