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Post by portman227 on Jul 6, 2018 11:13:20 GMT
I must say the recent orders of single decker MMC's coming with the Voith gearbox are starting to be very boring, I wonder whether there will be a change back to using the Allison or ZF gearboxes. I did sample the DLE's, Abellio's new batch and they are dissapointing in my opinion, for. Stop start are now available on all gearboxes according to what I have been told so I'm not sure what the preference of the lazy gearbox (Voith) came from?
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Post by vjaska on Jul 6, 2018 12:32:24 GMT
I must say the recent orders of single decker MMC's coming with the Voith gearbox are starting to be very boring, I wonder whether there will be a change back to using the Allison or ZF gearboxes. I did sample the DLE's, Abellio's new batch and they are dissapointing in my opinion, for. Stop start are now available on all gearboxes according to what I have been told so I'm not sure what the preference of the lazy gearbox (Voith) came from? I don't think we'll see any ZF Tronic ones anytime soon other than the ones already in London & elsewhere - drivers don't like them as well apparently. I heard somewhere that stop start is available on other boxes as I was hoping for some Allison ones (Voith isn't as nice as it once was from Euro V onwards due to the short gear ratios) By DLE's, do you mean RATP's latest ones or Abellio's last batch they brought in? |
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Post by portman227 on Jul 6, 2018 13:06:47 GMT
I must say the recent orders of single decker MMC's coming with the Voith gearbox are starting to be very boring, I wonder whether there will be a change back to using the Allison or ZF gearboxes. I did sample the DLE's, Abellio's new batch and they are dissapointing in my opinion, for. Stop start are now available on all gearboxes according to what I have been told so I'm not sure what the preference of the lazy gearbox (Voith) came from? I don't think we'll see any ZF Tronic ones anytime soon other than the ones already in London & elsewhere - drivers don't like them as well apparently. I heard somewhere that stop start is available on other boxes as I was hoping for some Allison ones (Voith isn't as nice as it once was from Euro V onwards due to the short gear ratios) By DLE's, do you mean RATP's latest ones or Abellio's last batch they brought in? The RATP for LU's first MMC's till now and Abellio's latest MMC, they feel like they like to be driven very slow. They don't have character to them either. I wonder whether they were programmed to be more environmentally friendly by programming them to be this lazy. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 6, 2018 14:19:55 GMT
I don't think we'll see any ZF Tronic ones anytime soon other than the ones already in London & elsewhere - drivers don't like them as well apparently. I heard somewhere that stop start is available on other boxes as I was hoping for some Allison ones (Voith isn't as nice as it once was from Euro V onwards due to the short gear ratios) By DLE's, do you mean RATP's latest ones or Abellio's last batch they brought in? The RATP for LU's first MMC's till now and Abellio's latest MMC, they feel like they like to be driven very slow. They don't have character to them either. I wonder whether they were programmed to be more environmentally friendly by programming them to be this lazy. I think they are as they all have extremely short gear ratios to aid in fuel consumption or something along those lines. Gone are the days when Voith sounded so brilliant on almost anything. |
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Post by portman227 on Jul 6, 2018 15:40:11 GMT
The RATP for LU's first MMC's till now and Abellio's latest MMC, they feel like they like to be driven very slow. They don't have character to them either. I wonder whether they were programmed to be more environmentally friendly by programming them to be this lazy. I think they are as they all have extremely short gear ratios to aid in fuel consumption or something along those lines. Gone are the days when Voith sounded so brilliant on almost anything. The voith trident and Voith citaros were so iconic in central london and deep south, you could hear them from a mile away, driven to nuts and fast vehicles. Diesels are somewhat becoming ever slower over the years. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 7, 2018 16:21:54 GMT
Recently, I've noticed that some buses have had a little Diamond shaped "R" sticker applied to the bottom left on their front windscreen. Metrobus's 190 has this when it never had it prior to when I saw it on Tuesday, and I thought it was just something applied by Go-Ahead, but then the next day I had one of the 433 E200's, think it was 8778, and it had the same sticker on the front windscreen. Is this to signify perhaps that the bus has had Euro VI modifications done?
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Post by Ted Barclay on Jul 7, 2018 16:32:41 GMT
Recently, I've noticed that some buses have had a little Diamond shaped "R" sticker applied to the bottom left on their front windscreen. Metrobus's 190 has this when it never had it prior to when I saw it on Tuesday, and I thought it was just something applied by Go-Ahead, but then the next day I had one of the 433 E200's, think it was 8778, and it had the same sticker on the front windscreen. Is this to signify perhaps that the bus has had Euro VI modifications done? It is something to do with a forthcoming new TfL bus radio system. The sticker is added when a bus is fitted with new kit, so it can be tested. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 7, 2018 16:43:33 GMT
Recently, I've noticed that some buses have had a little Diamond shaped "R" sticker applied to the bottom left on their front windscreen. Metrobus's 190 has this when it never had it prior to when I saw it on Tuesday, and I thought it was just something applied by Go-Ahead, but then the next day I had one of the 433 E200's, think it was 8778, and it had the same sticker on the front windscreen. Is this to signify perhaps that the bus has had Euro VI modifications done? It something to with a forthcoming new TfL bus radio system. The sticker is added when a bus is fitted with new kit, so it can be tested. That might explain why 190 was away for quite some time last week, as well has having new blinds fitted. |
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 7, 2018 18:17:09 GMT
Whilst today may have been filled with highs elsewhere we mustn’t forget that today marks the 13th anniversary since the atrocious bombings on the London Transport Network in 2005. This is so overlooked these days which is dissapointing.
Thoughts go out to the 52 deceased as well as their families.
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Post by cl54 on Jul 7, 2018 19:18:23 GMT
It something to with a forthcoming new TfL bus radio system. The sticker is added when a bus is fitted with new kit, so it can be tested. That might explain why 190 was away for quite some time last week, as well has having new blinds fitted. The new Tait comms kit is fitted at the garage. They started at Bromley and completed the 1000th vehicle at Camberwell this week. The old and the new systems work together until all buses in London are completed. The R stickers confirm the bus has been fitted. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 7, 2018 19:36:01 GMT
Whilst today may have been filled with highs elsewhere we mustn’t forget that today marks the 13th anniversary since the atrocious bombings on the London Transport Network in 2005. This is so overlooked these days which is dissapointing. Thoughts go out to the 52 deceased as well as their families. I hope they do hold on to Spirit given it’s symbolism - an upgrade to Euro VI would keep the vultures away as well as sorting the issues it has. |
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Post by redbus on Jul 7, 2018 19:37:14 GMT
That might explain why 190 was away for quite some time last week, as well has having new blinds fitted. The new Tait comms kit is fitted at the garage. They started at Bromley and completed the 1000th vehicle at Camberwell this week. The old and the new systems work together until all buses in London are completed. The R stickers confirm the bus has been fitted. What are advantages of the new kit over the old? |
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Post by 15002 on Jul 7, 2018 19:39:53 GMT
Whilst today may have been filled with highs elsewhere we mustn’t forget that today marks the 13th anniversary since the atrocious bombings on the London Transport Network in 2005. This is so overlooked these days which is dissapointing. Thoughts go out to the 52 deceased as well as their families. I hope they do hold on to Spirit given it’s symbolism - an upgrade to Euro VI would keep the vultures away as well as sorting the issues it has. 100% agree with this, aside from the symbolism it was the first ever E400 and I feel like they are the only E400 that I like from RM. Much more character imo and the symbolism helps of course. |
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Post by cl54 on Jul 7, 2018 19:46:58 GMT
The new Tait comms kit is fitted at the garage. They started at Bromley and completed the 1000th vehicle at Camberwell this week. The old and the new systems work together until all buses in London are completed. The R stickers confirm the bus has been fitted. What are advantages of the new kit over the old? Quite a lot www.taitradio.com/clients/case-studies/london-bus |
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Post by redbus on Jul 7, 2018 21:54:39 GMT
Not been on an EvoSeti bus 13 in the really hot weather - until today. I have travelled on Boilmasters top deck front row and never thought another London bus could compete with how hot they become. All I can say is that the Boilmaster has met its match and more!  The EvoSeti, sorry BakeSeti, felt really hot when I got on, but when I went upstairs it was truly horrendous. I sat down and suddenly my bum felt on fire, from the hot seat.  I dread to think what the temperature was on that bus. I don't know if there was something wrong with this particular bus, or if all EvoSetis are really BakeSetis! I would be surprised if they were given they are manufactured by MCW who I think are Egyptian, a country better known for its heat than cold, so you'd think they would know how to keep a bus cool!
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The EvoSeti, sorry BakeSeti, felt really hot when I got on, but when I went upstairs it was truly horrendous. I sat down and suddenly my bum felt on fire, from the hot seat. 