Nat Ex East Anglia Class 379's

[john]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11540206

The first of them have started to roll off the production line at Bombadier's. It's interesting to note that even these are to be delivered without the NatEx grey coach ends. I'm assuming this is only until a final decision has been made about the franchise

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IMO, it's basically a Class 377 with the latest technology. I don't see much of a difference when compared to a 375 or 377, apart from the seemingly gasket glazed windows. But I've gotta say that it looks fantastic.

[vjaska]

So are these new trains the same as the ones that Southern use and are they still keeping all the existing trains that Nat EX East Anglia have?

I'm a novice when it comes to trains ;D

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Oct 14, 2010 23:29:25 GMT vjaska said:

So are these new trains the same as the ones that Southern use and are they still keeping all the existing trains that Nat EX East Anglia have?

I'm a novice when it comes to trains ;D

I'd say that it's more of a re-design of the ones at Southern, just like Southeastern's Class 376s and L.O.'s Class 378s.

[vjaska]

Oct 15, 2010 0:02:30 GMT @londonn4 said:

Oct 14, 2010 23:29:25 GMT vjaska said:

So are these new trains the same as the ones that Southern use and are they still keeping all the existing trains that Nat EX East Anglia have?

I'm a novice when it comes to trains ;D

I'd say that it's more of a re-design of the ones at Southern, just like Southeastern's Class 376s and L.O.'s Class 378s.

Not sure what class 376's and 378's are. Those new trains should be nice though as Southern's newest trains are comfortable to ride on and the design gives it a modern look without going over the top.

[snowman]

As I understand it, it is a new generation of 375 electrostar family. New design of bogies and some other new parts but basic design is same.
Probably best summed up as an evolved updated version of existing trains

[zebedee104]

Not sure what class 376's and 378's are

376 = type of train used by South Eastern, was designed as a inner-surburban train - sliding doors in pockets tube style (as opposed to plug doors), no toilets, high density seating.

378 = type of train used on the London Overground (apart from Gospel Oak-Barking!). Largely similar externally to 376s, interior completely different (all longitudinal seating, detrainment steps built into front end door etc.)

[daveb0789]

Would you prefer to drive a bus or a train ?

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Isn't this type different from the other similar examples because they will use overheads?

For example the Bombardier diesel Turbostars were classes 168/170/171/172, with the Electrostars having the exact same design but powered by overhead, that being Class 357 which is currently with C2C on the London-Shoeburyness line. (not to be confused with the current design of the Electrostar).

[john]

Oct 14, 2010 23:29:25 GMT vjaska said:

So are these new trains the same as the ones that Southern use and are they still keeping all the existing trains that Nat EX East Anglia have?

I'm a novice when it comes to trains ;D

I believe the 317's they're to replace will be transfered to the Cambridge route to expand capacity on those services. I know some ex-Silverlink 321's have come over for the GER mainline and are making the 12 car formations a bit more colourful!! You can often see one 12 set with a First Great Eastern, Nat Ex AND Silverlink livery ;D Chuck in 321446 in the mix (the only one to get the ONE livery) and you get a very mixed livery set

[ServerKing]

317's are already on the Cambridge routes, I assume the 317's will oust the 315's from the Lea Valley lines, and some of the 321's may be on the Cambridge routes. Saying that, with NXEA, you never know ;D

[john]

Oct 22, 2010 18:15:29 GMT ServerKing said:

317's are already on the Cambridge routes, I assume the 317's will oust the 315's from the Lea Valley lines, and some of the 321's may be on the Cambridge routes. Saying that, with NXEA, you never know ;D

You ain't getting a single 321 ;D

The last I read, the 317's currently used on the Stansted Express will be used to compliment the other 317's on Cambridge/Harlow/Hertford sevrices. It could allow for more services to Stratford, or higher capacity services there. The new platform entrance to platforms 10a and 11 has now opened, so there's no doubt plans for it.

Also, somone on this forum said that the 315's won't be leaving until 2012, or when Crossrail is operational. I know services along the Liv St - Shenfield (Metro services) line by NatEx will decrease to 4tph instead of the current level. Basically they will supplement the Crossrail route

[vjaska]

Oct 24, 2010 0:10:56 GMT john said:

Oct 22, 2010 18:15:29 GMT ServerKing said:

317's are already on the Cambridge routes, I assume the 317's will oust the 315's from the Lea Valley lines, and some of the 321's may be on the Cambridge routes. Saying that, with NXEA, you never know ;D

You ain't getting a single 321 ;D

The last I read, the 317's currently used on the Stansted Express will be used to compliment the other 317's on Cambridge/Harlow/Hertford sevrices. It could allow for more services to Stratford, or higher capacity services there. The new platform entrance to platforms 10a and 11 has now opened, so there's no doubt plans for it.

Also, somone on this forum said that the 315's won't be leaving until 2012, or when Crossrail is operational. I know services along the Liv St - Shenfield (Metro services) line by NatEx will decrease to 4tph instead of the current level. Basically they will supplement the Crossrail route

Those ones on the Stanstead Express are ok, though some make a strange sound when the train accelerate. Some of the Cambridge service ones also do the same.

[ServerKing]

Oct 24, 2010 0:46:44 GMT vjaska said:

Oct 24, 2010 0:10:56 GMT john said:

You ain't getting a single 321 ;D

The last I read, the 317's currently used on the Stansted Express will be used to compliment the other 317's on Cambridge/Harlow/Hertford sevrices. It could allow for more services to Stratford, or higher capacity services there. The new platform entrance to platforms 10a and 11 has now opened, so there's no doubt plans for it.

Also, somone on this forum said that the 315's won't be leaving until 2012, or when Crossrail is operational. I know services along the Liv St - Shenfield (Metro services) line by NatEx will decrease to 4tph instead of the current level. Basically they will supplement the Crossrail route

Those ones on the Stanstead Express are ok, though some make a strange sound when the train accelerate. Some of the Cambridge service ones also do the same.

That strange sound is of a 36-year-old traction motor on it's way out

Well, something needs to be done to improve the Lea Valley lines - it ain't right seeing a 315 on the line;D I thought most of the 315's go on the slower route via Seven Sisters?

I read in RAIL magazine about the 321's possibly being moved, it's not of my volition ;D You can KEEP the purple Silverlink ones if u like ;D ;D

[john]

Oct 26, 2010 7:22:44 GMT ServerKing said:

That strange sound is of a 36-year-old traction motor on it's way out

Well, something needs to be done to improve the Lea Valley lines - it ain't right seeing a 315 on the line;D I thought most of the 315's go on the slower route via Seven Sisters?

I read in RAIL magazine about the 321's possibly being moved, it's not of my volition ;D You can KEEP the purple Silverlink ones if u like ;D ;D

Saw one at Stratford yesterday actually, was kinda odd lol. Saying that, you should try being on a 315 going up the mainline between Stratford and Romford ;D Only stop served.....Ilford

What purple Silverlink ones? Most of them have been repainted plain white now ;D The interior is better than the one First put in though. Seems to be very similar to the old NSE interior which brings back good memories of the 312's that used to run alongide them