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Post by snowman on Aug 7, 2020 18:13:43 GMT
DE20005 is now at NC minus blinds. It looks like 1-5 have now hit the end of the road and with DLEs potentially spare 8-14 at AV/FW may be coming to the end too. I think some of the DLEs are moving to H11 In turn some 58-reg DEs are expected to retire EDIT Just rechecked the TfL fleet audit spreadsheet 31/3/20 and following not euroVI or modified the 58reg 20001-17 are not ULEZ modified, which suggests early withdrawal For those interested list at 31/3/20 was as follows (many have been withdrawn since) ADE40295-304, 40444 ADH45006 DE20001-17, 59-65, 74, 92 OS20247, 50 SDE20295-6 SP40001-8, 16-18, 27-40, 76, 84, 135
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Post by adl on Aug 7, 2020 19:11:22 GMT
DLE30001 has moved to FW. I wonder which route this will be allocated to.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 8, 2020 8:23:09 GMT
The 13 ADL Enviro200 MMCs for route K1 are reported to be in the finishing hall at ADL in Scarborough and deliver is expected in "mid-August" so they should be 20-registered.
(Source: Google Groups: LondonsTransport - 200808 Bus News).
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Post by busdryver on Aug 8, 2020 8:24:43 GMT
The 13 ADL Enviro200 MMCs for route K1 are reported to be in the finishing hall at ADL in Scarborough and deliver is expected in "mid-August" so they should be 20-registered. (Source: Google Groups: LondonsTransport - 200808 Bus News). First few expected to be delivered this week, probably to Hounslow Heath. All due to go in by the end of the month.
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Post by busdryver on Aug 8, 2020 8:25:37 GMT
DLE30001 has moved to FW. I wonder which route this will be allocated to. The 33 has four of the 2007 DEs allocated to it, so that’s probably a good bet for at least some of them.
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Post by M1199 on Aug 8, 2020 13:11:11 GMT
Former London United Tempo OT30208 is currently parked up at the Falcon Coachworks facility in Iver. Seemingly having lost its rear doors and given a lick of paint. flic.kr/p/2ju9DEA(Excuse the crap photo!)
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Post by snowman on Aug 8, 2020 17:46:19 GMT
From TfL fleet audit spreadsheet 31/3/20 and following not euroVI or modified Updated to give current status
ADE 40295-302 withdrawn ADE 40303, 304, are the 11reg going ? ADE 40444 still in use, possibly upgraded since ADH45006 is VOR DE20001-4 out of use DE20005-17 still in use, double decking H98 likely to see cascade, making these surplus DE20059-65, some still in use, likely to be withdrawn DE20074 not used for 5 days DE20092 still in use, used as spare at TV, not sure if staying OS20247, 50 withdrawn SDE20295-6 in use, maybe going when new K1 fleet arrives SP40001-8 still in use, expected to leave during August SP40016-18, 27-40, withdrawn SP40076, 84, possibly upgraded since SP40135 not sure, maybe going off lease
Hopefully this list helps those trying to predict changes ahead of Londonwide Bus ULEZ
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Post by vjaska on Aug 8, 2020 20:12:28 GMT
From TfL fleet audit spreadsheet 31/3/20 and following not euroVI or modified Updated to give current status ADE 40295-302 withdrawn ADE 40303, 304, are the 11reg going ? ADE 40444 still in use, possibly upgraded since ADH45006 is VOR DE20001-4 out of use DE20005-17 still in use, double decking H98 likely to see cascade, making these surplus DE20059-65, some still in use, likely to be withdrawn DE20074 not used for 5 days DE20092 still in use, used as spare at TV, not sure if staying OS20247, 50 withdrawn SDE20295-6 in use, maybe going when new K1 fleet arrives SP40001-8 still in use, expected to leave during August SP40016-18, 27-40, withdrawn SP40076, 84, possibly upgraded since SP40135 not sure, maybe going off lease Hopefully this list helps those trying to predict changes ahead of Londonwide Bus ULEZ SDE20295-6 were part of the 404 before the K1 was taken on and I believe will return to the route once it's buses arrive so don't think they're going anywhere
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 8, 2020 20:23:31 GMT
And DLE30010 - that looks to be the rest for the H11 Good news, but on a self-indulgent note, just 2 weeks ago I shunned 2 MMCs on route H11 so that I could do a classic DLE ahead of an MMC on route H18. I would have found it helpful had these 3 been on route H11 at the time, but I appreciate they have probably only just become spare following the double-decking of route H98.
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Post by paulo on Aug 8, 2020 21:04:35 GMT
From TfL fleet audit spreadsheet 31/3/20 and following not euroVI or modified Updated to give current status ADE 40295-302 withdrawn ADE 40303, 304, are the 11reg going ? ADE 40444 still in use, possibly upgraded since ADH45006 is VOR DE20001-4 out of use DE20005-17 still in use, double decking H98 likely to see cascade, making these surplus DE20059-65, some still in use, likely to be withdrawn DE20074 not used for 5 days DE20092 still in use, used as spare at TV, not sure if staying OS20247, 50 withdrawn SDE20295-6 in use, maybe going when new K1 fleet arrives SP40001-8 still in use, expected to leave during August SP40016-18, 27-40, withdrawn SP40076, 84, possibly upgraded since SP40135 not sure, maybe going off lease Hopefully this list helps those trying to predict changes ahead of Londonwide Bus ULEZ SDE20295-6 were part of the 404 before the K1 was taken on and I believe will return to the route once it's buses arrive so don't think they're going anywhere DE20074/92 have been upgraded to Euro 6 and refurbed in past few months so will be staying. SP40135 was due to go off lease but reprieved by SP40103’s demise.
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Post by snowman on Aug 8, 2020 21:05:11 GMT
From TfL fleet audit spreadsheet 31/3/20 and following not euroVI or modified Updated to give current status ADE 40295-302 withdrawn ADE 40303, 304, are the 11reg going ? ADE 40444 still in use, possibly upgraded since ADH45006 is VOR DE20001-4 out of use DE20005-17 still in use, double decking H98 likely to see cascade, making these surplus DE20059-65, some still in use, likely to be withdrawn DE20074 not used for 5 days DE20092 still in use, used as spare at TV, not sure if staying OS20247, 50 withdrawn SDE20295-6 in use, maybe going when new K1 fleet arrives SP40001-8 still in use, expected to leave during August SP40016-18, 27-40, withdrawn SP40076, 84, possibly upgraded since SP40135 not sure, maybe going off lease Hopefully this list helps those trying to predict changes ahead of Londonwide Bus ULEZ SDE20295-6 were part of the 404 before the K1 was taken on and I believe will return to the route once it's buses arrive so don't think they're going anywhere I was wondering about that too But didn't seem consistent with them not being upgraded There are 13 new buses, but only 10 borrowed from Abellio which suggests 3 buses (which 3 ?) will become spare. These 2 seem likely (with 3rd staying as extra spare). My speculation, not official.
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Post by snowman on Aug 8, 2020 21:08:45 GMT
SDE20295-6 were part of the 404 before the K1 was taken on and I believe will return to the route once it's buses arrive so don't think they're going anywhere DE20074/92 have been upgraded to Euro 6 and refurbed in past few months so will be staying. SP40135 was due to go off lease but reprieved by SP40103’s demise. I wonder if they salvaged the upgraded engine from 40103, or perhaps swapped it
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Post by busdryver on Aug 8, 2020 21:25:44 GMT
SDE20295-6 were part of the 404 before the K1 was taken on and I believe will return to the route once it's buses arrive so don't think they're going anywhere I was wondering about that too But didn't seem consistent with them not being upgraded There are 13 new buses, but only 10 borrowed from Abellio which suggests 3 buses (which 3 ?) will become spare. These 2 seem likely (with 3rd staying as extra spare). My speculation, not official. The K1 gets a frequency increase from 29/8, so pvr moves up to 14.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 23:50:08 GMT
I was wondering about that too But didn't seem consistent with them not being upgraded There are 13 new buses, but only 10 borrowed from Abellio which suggests 3 buses (which 3 ?) will become spare. These 2 seem likely (with 3rd staying as extra spare). My speculation, not official. The K1 gets a frequency increase from 29/8, so pvr moves up to 14. Good news! Lovely route in my opinion. Easier to run than the 285.
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Post by snowman on Aug 9, 2020 6:07:20 GMT
I think the following is happening next few weeks
More SPs are being reallocated to complete double decking of H98 The 2011 DLEs (From H98) some are moving to SO for H11, others to FW The remaining 2007 DEs and DE20001-17 will leave by October
The 10 ADEs on loan to Abellio for 285 expected to return second half August This allows more SPs to transfer for H98 Will also allow SP40001-8 to be replaced by end August
The 13 new diesel buses for K1 expected within next 2 weeks Should enter service in second half August The loans from Abellio, and the Epsom fleet route swaps can then end
Last day of RATP working 139 is Friday 28 August Eventually majorly of fleet will be needed for gained 28 (from 1st May) Plan is not just to park them up for 8 months
My understanding (and some of this is from rumours) is Upto 3 of 2016 VHs move to TV (it seems 2011 ADEs possibly leaving) Some 2013 VHs will replace some SPs temporarily Once 306 is lost in December a few other double decks can be cascaded to fix this
There seems to be some sort of short term double decking planned for late September or October (all very vague), but it is all to do with completing the withdrawal of DE20001-17 by ULEZ date, but before the Richmond changes 12th December. DLEs come free from discontinued 391 and PVR cut on H37, but some are needed for extended 110. Presumably the remaining spare DLEs can unwind any temporary double decking.
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