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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 25, 2022 6:05:48 GMT
The 406 already has it's own batch of VH's being VH45310-45317, I presume your referring to the 418 instead? VH45124-144 should convert the 71 & 418 once finished elsewhere and then I'd imagine VH45153-155 could end up at TV themselves on the 613, 655 & 662 or they stay put at FW and VH45162-164 are used for those school routes with ADE's staying on the 293 DD journey and 467 The 613 and 662 start new hybrid contracts from 30th July, so will be getting VHs (effectively from new school term in September). I suspect 655 will also convert SP 40176-40190 should be replaced at TV in a few weeks time, once the 125 is electric and VHs can be reallocated. Next week is 1 year after 71 contract started, and TfL used to expect the correct fleet to be in service within a year for a retained route. Those SP are based at FW not TV, there shouldn’t be any SP at TV right now. The 613 and 662 already have VH allocated so it’s irrelevant they are starting new contracts as they already have vehicles. If RATP have enough spare VH they may convert the 293D, 467 and 655 to hybrid as well but could just as easily leave 4 E400 there.
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Post by dragonman on Jun 25, 2022 9:42:22 GMT
How long do we have to enjoy the SPs on routes H32 and H98?
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Post by Alexis on Jun 25, 2022 10:37:56 GMT
Was looking on LVF and saw that BCE47126-137 still haven't entered service yet, what route(s) are those buses for and have they been delivered yet?
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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2022 10:43:02 GMT
Was looking on LVF and saw that BCE47126-137 still haven't entered service yet, what route(s) are those buses for and have they been delivered yet? They are for the 183 - 183 is currently using a mix of its own and the 125 batch
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Post by SN17MOA on Jun 25, 2022 10:48:31 GMT
Was looking on LVF and saw that BCE47126-137 still haven't entered service yet, what route(s) are those buses for and have they been delivered yet? They have been delivered (currently stored in X) but I don't think they will enter service until electrification works at BT are complete. Once the 125 batch moves then the BCE47126-137 (for the 183) can enter service. What I don't get is why didn't RATP just send the 125 batch to SO to work for the 183 back in February for and kept all the FW buses at FW?
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Post by snowman on Jun 25, 2022 11:34:00 GMT
How long do we have to enjoy the SPs on routes H32 and H98? It depends whether the H98 receives ADEs, like people have been speculating. If that happens, then the earliest they could be eradicated is when the H32 is lost, which is the 4th March 2023. Otherwise if the H98 continues with its SPs, they'll be around until 2025-ish (not sure when the contract was expires, please could someone clarify!) The Scanias allocated to that I believe are SP191-206 (16 buses for a PVR of about 14) The H98 extension is to March 2025 But assuming cuts proceed after consultation will be buses from C3 etc to cascade out the diesel ones. Before that, 94 is proposed shortening (deferred until Bond Street, Hanover Square entrance with Elizabeth line opens about Oct-Nov), the 142 and 642 loss in January could provide buses. Realistically I wouldn’t expect any SP to survive beyond March 2023
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Post by snowman on Jun 25, 2022 11:45:00 GMT
Was looking on LVF and saw that BCE47126-137 still haven't entered service yet, what route(s) are those buses for and have they been delivered yet? They have been delivered (currently stored in X) but I don't think they will enter service until electrification works at BT are complete. Once the 125 batch moves then the BCE47126-137 (for the 183) can enter service. What I don't get is why didn't RATP just send the 125 batch to SO to work for the 183 back in February for and kept all the FW buses at FW? The rather random allocation came about because of take over of X140 and dates chargers were ready at FW and SO. SO is so full that it could only ever gain one or two buses, then had to lose equivalent number before any more can arrive. Throw in the order they were parked whilst stored (some were blocking others in) and it is kind of understandable that they were not neatly commissioned in numerical blocks. There is another batch of BCEs due for takeover of route 295 on 29th October, which presumably will get 72 registration plates.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2022 13:15:51 GMT
Can someone remind me of the split of BCE's at FW:
BCE47030-47052 - 281? BCE47053-47054 - 371 school journeys? BCE47055-47083 - 65/N65?
I'm not interested in the 5 examples from the 125 currently there as they won't be staying at FW permanently
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Post by snowman on Jun 25, 2022 13:50:43 GMT
Can someone remind me of the split of BCE's at FW: BCE47030-47052 - 281? BCE47053-47054 - 371 school journeys? BCE47055-47083 - 65/N65? I'm not interested in the 5 examples from the 125 currently there as they won't be staying at FW permanently That is how I remember it split on paper Of course, in practice used as a common pool
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Post by dragonman on Jun 25, 2022 14:22:30 GMT
It depends whether the H98 receives ADEs, like people have been speculating. If that happens, then the earliest they could be eradicated is when the H32 is lost, which is the 4th March 2023. Otherwise if the H98 continues with its SPs, they'll be around until 2025-ish (not sure when the contract was expires, please could someone clarify!) The Scanias allocated to that I believe are SP191-206 (16 buses for a PVR of about 14) The H98 extension is to March 2025 But assuming cuts proceed after consultation will be buses from C3 etc to cascade out the diesel ones. Before that, 94 is proposed shortening (deferred until Bond Street, Hanover Square entrance with Elizabeth line opens about Oct-Nov), the 142 and 642 loss in January could provide buses. Realistically I wouldn’t expect any SP to survive beyond March 2023 oh that's good then, you're probably all going to laugh at me for saying this but i was worried that they'd all be gone in the next few weeks! 😄
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Post by vjaska on Jun 25, 2022 16:54:12 GMT
Can someone remind me of the split of BCE's at FW: BCE47030-47052 - 281? BCE47053-47054 - 371 school journeys? BCE47055-47083 - 65/N65? I'm not interested in the 5 examples from the 125 currently there as they won't be staying at FW permanently That is how I remember it split on paper Of course, in practice used as a common pool Thanks
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Post by snowman on Jun 25, 2022 20:33:05 GMT
How long do we have to enjoy the SPs on routes H32 and H98? It depends whether the H98 receives ADEs, like people have been speculating. If that happens, then the earliest they could be eradicated is when the H32 is lost, which is the 4th March 2023. Otherwise if the H98 continues with its SPs, they'll be around until 2025-ish (not sure when the contract was expires, please could someone clarify!) The Scanias allocated to that I believe are SP191-206 (16 buses for a PVR of about 14) It is also possible that in the last few months of the Scania buses, the allocations get swapped around a bit, especially if certain ones have a buyer and leave a bit earlier.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 26, 2022 13:37:47 GMT
Any ideas why ADE40309 has gone into BT?
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Post by andyc on Jun 26, 2022 14:32:05 GMT
Any ideas why ADE40309 has gone into BT? To cover vehicles away for maintenance before it goes for refurbishment itself…
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Post by dragonman on Jun 26, 2022 14:49:42 GMT
Any ideas why ADE40309 has gone into BT? To cover vehicles away for maintenance before it goes for refurbishment itself… does that mean we'll be seeing it on 142 duties?
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