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Post by COBO on Dec 16, 2022 23:03:29 GMT
Are the BCEs at BT allowed on the other routes at BT?
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Post by sleckdeck on Dec 17, 2022 0:11:24 GMT
Several VH’s have been running on the 65 unblinded, have any transferred to FW that just happen to have a V or TV blindset? VH45137, 143 and 164 transferred just 2 days ago from V and 143 I can confirm is currently unblinded as I saw it at Richmond earlier on the 65. At least today the 65 is mostly BCE operated. It is not mostly BCE operated, BCEs can just operate most likely on a single charge during the day which is why past 7pm several more VHs will come out on the route as more become available from the 481/85. Also, I love how the minute I get home an SP has just started a journey on the 65  |
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Post by Volvo on Dec 17, 2022 23:41:57 GMT
Are the BCEs at BT allowed on the other routes at BT? No |
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Post by i3lu on Dec 19, 2022 8:44:44 GMT
Werent the DDEs meant to go BT?
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Post by Volvo on Dec 19, 2022 10:06:27 GMT
Werent the DDEs meant to go BT? They are, DDE20287 is here as current route learning bus. I have the material for training and on the back page it states Authorised Vehicle Types: 10.9 Electric Single Deck Bus So I presume this has been risk assesed, so I wonder why it is we are having a DDE + DE allocation temporarily and why we are being told that anything longer than 10.2m cannot go around the route. |
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Post by i3lu on Dec 19, 2022 10:33:07 GMT
Werent the DDEs meant to go BT? They are, DDE20287 is here as current route learning bus. I have the material for training and on the back page it states Authorised Vehicle Types: 10.9 Electric Single Deck Bus So I presume this has been risk assesed, so I wonder why it is we are having a DDE + DE allocation temporarily and why we are being told that anything longer than 10.2m cannot go around the route. Sure, but you might have missed that 2 DDEs started at V today. That's why I was questioning. |
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Post by Volvo on Dec 19, 2022 21:09:00 GMT
They are, DDE20287 is here as current route learning bus. I have the material for training and on the back page it states Authorised Vehicle Types: 10.9 Electric Single Deck Bus So I presume this has been risk assesed, so I wonder why it is we are having a DDE + DE allocation temporarily and why we are being told that anything longer than 10.2m cannot go around the route. Sure, but you might have missed that 2 DDEs started at V today. That's why I was questioning. Sorry, I hadn't been paying that much attention. Afaik the 226 is supposed to be part DDE + part DE until the electrics start. |
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Post by abellion on Dec 20, 2022 13:33:11 GMT
RATP have been terrible with the 28/220 in Wandsworth - there are constantly buses which show “Due” and then never show up, this afternoon there were three 28s all due before 2 buses proceeded to leave 1 minute apart. The 220 has the exact same issue sitting at due for so long that the next bus is only 2 minutes behind! Never seen this sort of issue with the 44 or 270.
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Post by DE20106 on Dec 20, 2022 13:45:14 GMT
RATP have been terrible with the 28/220 in Wandsworth - there are constantly buses which show “Due” and then never show up, this afternoon there were three 28s all due before 2 buses proceeded to leave 1 minute apart. The 220 has the exact same issue sitting at due for so long that the next bus is only 2 minutes behind! Never seen this sort of issue with the 44 or 270. In RATPs defence though the 28 and 220 must be absolute stinkers to operate. I’d go as far as to say the 220 is probably one of the hardest in the whole of London. Not to say the 44/270 aren’t challenging but any cross London routes like the other two will be ridiculously difficult to try and run. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Dec 20, 2022 13:47:52 GMT
RATP have been terrible with the 28/220 in Wandsworth - there are constantly buses which show “Due” and then never show up, this afternoon there were three 28s all due before 2 buses proceeded to leave 1 minute apart. The 220 has the exact same issue sitting at due for so long that the next bus is only 2 minutes behind! Never seen this sort of issue with the 44 or 270. In RATPs defence though the 28 and 220 must be absolute stinkers to operate. I’d go as far as to say the 220 is probably one of the hardest in the whole of London. Not to say the 44/270 aren’t challenging but any cross London routes like the other two will be ridiculously difficult to try and run. The 220 I can understand can be a bit tricky but there's other routes in London that can be catastrophic when it fails. The 112, 173 and 34 spring into mind. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 20, 2022 13:48:27 GMT
RATP have been terrible with the 28/220 in Wandsworth - there are constantly buses which show “Due” and then never show up, this afternoon there were three 28s all due before 2 buses proceeded to leave 1 minute apart. The 220 has the exact same issue sitting at due for so long that the next bus is only 2 minutes behind! Never seen this sort of issue with the 44 or 270. To be fair it does happen sometimes with the countdown system. I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve waited for the 213 at the stop near Sutton Green where it shows 2 minutes but turns up after a 7-8 minute wait. |
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Post by abellion on Dec 20, 2022 15:10:53 GMT
RATP have been terrible with the 28/220 in Wandsworth - there are constantly buses which show “Due” and then never show up, this afternoon there were three 28s all due before 2 buses proceeded to leave 1 minute apart. The 220 has the exact same issue sitting at due for so long that the next bus is only 2 minutes behind! Never seen this sort of issue with the 44 or 270. In RATPs defence though the 28 and 220 must be absolute stinkers to operate. I’d go as far as to say the 220 is probably one of the hardest in the whole of London. Not to say the 44/270 aren’t challenging but any cross London routes like the other two will be ridiculously difficult to try and run. True that the 28 and 220 are two absolutely awful routes to run. Unfortunately there isn’t much RATP can do about traffic making their buses late, so I guess there isn’t much good blaming them however the iBus issue and bad operation have been plaguing the 28 for a while now. |
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Post by paulo on Dec 21, 2022 6:44:59 GMT
Sure, but you might have missed that 2 DDEs started at V today. That's why I was questioning. Sorry, I hadn't been paying that much attention. Afaik the 226 is supposed to be part DDE + part DE until the electrics start. DDE20288/290 both sitting on the forecourt last night at AV. |
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Post by snowman on Dec 21, 2022 8:39:46 GMT
Sorry, I hadn't been paying that much attention. Afaik the 226 is supposed to be part DDE + part DE until the electrics start. DDE20288/290 both sitting on the forecourt last night at AV. DDE20293 is on 272 today, so seem to be spreading to other routes wonder if they are covering as spare buses around the garages might be a coincidence, but two of the 59reg DEs seem to have not be out for few days |
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Post by Volvo on Dec 21, 2022 11:13:31 GMT
Sorry, I hadn't been paying that much attention. Afaik the 226 is supposed to be part DDE + part DE until the electrics start. DDE20288/290 both sitting on the forecourt last night at AV. I wouldn't be bothered if the 226 was just DE operated in the end anyway. I'm not a fan of the E200 MMC and now I've driven a DDE, DME and DLE. Btw can someone tell me what DDE actually stands for. |
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