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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Dec 15, 2022 18:03:02 GMT
I wonder if any other operators have spare LTs laying around that RATP could hire? They could be used on the 71 as they were previously freeing up SP/VHs for the 65 and 281 or whether Stagecoach have any Scanias that are surplus to their requirements? If RM still have omnicities around then they can hopefully lend some to FW. Another solution would be for another RATP garage or stagecoach to lend E400s/E40H’s to TV to release more VH’s to FW. Why would Stagecoach be obliged to do such a thing? |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 15, 2022 18:03:06 GMT
not sure how the M25 being covered in snow and ice is the fault of the management at Sullivan Buses, unless I'm really missing something.... No it wasn’t. But some people think the cold weather and national / local electric grid issues are the fault of RATP. That’s like blaming the occupants of a house who have no electricity because of a fault with the local substation. Utterly ridiculous. If the installation is causing issues with the surrounding areas power supply do you not think RATP are at least in part responsible? After all it is their infrastructure and their upgrade which seems to be creating an issue. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 15, 2022 18:07:04 GMT
If the climate was the issue here why did everyone other electric garage not suffer the same way? Whether you like it or not, at least part of the blame here lies with the company. But it will be hard to tell how much of the blame does unless we know the full details. not sure how the M25 being covered in snow and ice is the fault of the management at Sullivan Buses, unless I'm really missing something.... I was more referring to the issue at FW than the M25. |
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Post by WH241 on Dec 15, 2022 18:23:07 GMT
I wonder if any other operators have spare LTs laying around that RATP could hire? They could be used on the 71 as they were previously freeing up SP/VHs for the 65 and 281 or whether Stagecoach have any Scanias that are surplus to their requirements? If RM still have omnicities around then they can hopefully lend some to FW. Another solution would be for another RATP garage or stagecoach to lend E400s/E40H’s to TV to release more VH’s to FW. Disruption seems minimal today compared to yesterday! Not sure why people would think all these bus moves would take place over one day’s problems at a garage. |
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Post by greenboy on Dec 15, 2022 18:27:10 GMT
If RM still have omnicities around then they can hopefully lend some to FW. Another solution would be for another RATP garage or stagecoach to lend E400s/E40H’s to TV to release more VH’s to FW. Why would Stagecoach be obliged to do such a thing? They wouldn't be obliged to and obviously they wouldn't do it for free, bit like when they hired buses from Tower Transit for the 160. |
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Post by paulo on Dec 15, 2022 21:53:08 GMT
If RM still have omnicities around then they can hopefully lend some to FW. Another solution would be for another RATP garage or stagecoach to lend E400s/E40H’s to TV to release more VH’s to FW. Disruption seems minimal today compared to yesterday! Not sure why people would think all these bus moves would take place over one day’s problems at a garage. Indeed. Fantasising perhaps. The 65 has had over 50 different vehicles on it today. Impressive |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 22:01:59 GMT
No it wasn’t. But some people think the cold weather and national / local electric grid issues are the fault of RATP. That’s like blaming the occupants of a house who have no electricity because of a fault with the local substation. Utterly ridiculous. If the installation is causing issues with the surrounding areas power supply do you not think RATP are at least in part responsible? After all it is their infrastructure and their upgrade which seems to be creating an issue. No ! You don’t know that’s the case at all ! |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Dec 15, 2022 23:22:47 GMT
No it wasn’t. But some people think the cold weather and national / local electric grid issues are the fault of RATP. That’s like blaming the occupants of a house who have no electricity because of a fault with the local substation. Utterly ridiculous. If the installation is causing issues with the surrounding areas power supply do you not think RATP are at least in part responsible? After all it is their infrastructure and their upgrade which seems to be creating an issue. not quite sure how RATP are responsible for issues with the local power infrastructure. |
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Post by sleckdeck on Dec 15, 2022 23:46:26 GMT
Disruption seems minimal today compared to yesterday! Not sure why people would think all these bus moves would take place over one day’s problems at a garage. Indeed. Fantasising perhaps. The 65 has had over 50 different vehicles on it today. Impressive The 65 is currently fully VH operated with only 2 BCEs running on the route, it’s clear that whilst some BCEs can be charged up during the night - they can only operate as a majority until the evening. It’s just a shame the SPs disappeared on the 65 suddenly as the N65 converted to a night allocation, RATP should have kept a few spares around as new vehicles will always have issues. |
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Post by sleckdeck on Dec 16, 2022 15:24:19 GMT
Several VH’s have been running on the 65 unblinded, have any transferred to FW that just happen to have a V or TV blindset?
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Post by gazza76 on Dec 16, 2022 15:55:28 GMT
Has any more dde transferred to bt yet or is it just the one
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Post by Volvo on Dec 16, 2022 17:42:03 GMT
The BCEs really are not enjoying the cold and were causing some problems this morning. I took 139 out this morning @ 99%, after 2 rounds it was down to 65%.
Had 142 for my second half, took over @ 54% !! After 1 round I had to bring it back to garage as it was on 30% by the time I got back to colindale and 27% by the time I got back to BT.
So there were a few ADHs and VHRs on 125 earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 18:15:41 GMT
Several VH’s have been running on the 65 unblinded, have any transferred to FW that just happen to have a V or TV blindset? VH45137, 143 and 164 transferred just 2 days ago from V and 143 I can confirm is currently unblinded as I saw it at Richmond earlier on the 65. At least today the 65 is mostly BCE operated. |
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Post by enviroPB on Dec 16, 2022 19:09:42 GMT
The BCEs really are not enjoying the cold and were causing some problems this morning. I took 139 out this morning @ 99%, after 2 rounds it was down to 65%. Had 142 in the second half took over @ 54% !! After 1 round I had to bring it back to garage as it was on 30% by the time I got back to colindale and 27% by the time I got back to BT. So there were a few ADHs and VHRs on 125 earlier. Is it possible to ask what the range of a typical BCE is outside of this unusual weather? |
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Post by Volvo on Dec 16, 2022 21:49:50 GMT
The BCEs really are not enjoying the cold and were causing some problems this morning. I took 139 out this morning @ 99%, after 2 rounds it was down to 65%. Had 142 in the second half took over @ 54% !! After 1 round I had to bring it back to garage as it was on 30% by the time I got back to colindale and 27% by the time I got back to BT. So there were a few ADHs and VHRs on 125 earlier. Is it possible to ask what the range of a typical BCE is outside of this unusual weather? No idea personally as they started service @ BT in November and I have only recently been back to work. From what the engineers are saying thhough, they are not very good on range in general. |
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