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Post by VMH2537 on May 31, 2024 22:17:31 GMT
As I'm currently writing this there's an hour gap on the 125 with a seemingly to abandon the section east of Southgate. Maybe RATP is somehow on strike at BT and X? Noticed the 13 has gotten really bad this week as well. It was somehow OK for an while. Same old bunching and weird gaps. All vehicles where tracking as it's PVR, the problem was the buses were serverly bunched and curtailed resulting in a long hour gap as well as abounding the section east of Southgate. I don't believe it's due to a strike, but rather an operator incompetence as to how they run most of there routes. |
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Post by VWH1419 on May 31, 2024 22:46:12 GMT
Maybe RATP is somehow on strike at BT and X? Noticed the 13 has gotten really bad this week as well. It was somehow OK for a while. Same old bunching and weird gaps. All vehicles where tracking as it's PVR, the problem was the buses were serverly bunched and curtailed resulting in a long hour gap as well as abounding the section east of Southgate. I don't believe it's due to a strike, but rather an operator incompetence as to how they run most of there routes. The strike comment I made was a deadpan dig at how both routes are controlled. It is infuriating seeing a local route also one of the worst operated due to operator incompetence. Just come home from my usual 460 that was more rammed than usual due to poor 13 timing along with x2 bunching witnessed couple days back (could have sworn a late arrival at NF left with my 460 as well?) . I always try to give the benefit of doubt on bad days, but is ridiculous going on for years. Hopefully Metroline will get the 125 again as they did a nice job operating it. Or even Arriva if they can do it? |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 1, 2024 6:54:18 GMT
Being pedantic...but yes I take your point.... Sullivan operated on Friday (24th) DS51 on 217 & DS54 on 629 UNO have used 1501-1504 in May on school routes including 1503/1504 as recently as Friday Stagecoach 15076/15086 were both out on the 96 on Saturday (25th). As I write SP40206 is operating the H98...final day in service... Wow, in just 2 years a good chunk of them have been withdrawn. Just like that then end of an era. RATP just won’t feel the same without them. Their withdrawal will as good as eliminate the Transdev inheritance. That said, a handful of ADHs on route E3 still have Transdev moquette. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 1, 2024 7:24:28 GMT
RATP seem to have a disproportionate number of vehicles with out of date garage codes. Admittedly many VHMs at HT retain previous KC & WJ codes.
A highlight on Thursday was a VH on route 266 (possibly VH45104) where the J from the JE code had disappeared, with just the letter E showing!
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 1, 2024 8:16:24 GMT
RATP seem to have a disproportionate number of vehicles with out of date garage codes. Admittedly many VHMs at HT retain previous KC & WJ codes. A highlight on Thursday was a VH on route 266 (possibly VH45104) where the J from the JE code had disappeared, with just the letter E showing! Gotta cut budgets somewhere, start with the small stuff and it adds up. |
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Post by TA242 on Jun 1, 2024 8:41:49 GMT
Wow, in just 2 years a good chunk of them have been withdrawn. Just like that then end of an era. RATP just won’t feel the same without them. Their withdrawal will as good as eliminate the Transdev inheritance. That said, a handful of ADHs on route E3 still have Transdev moquette. There are still some of the SN10 and YX60 DEs, SN60 DLEs and the aforementioned ADHs about which were delivered to Transdev prior to the 2011 sale of London United. However, these are ever declining in number. |
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Post by greg on Jun 1, 2024 10:00:47 GMT
RATP seem to have a disproportionate number of vehicles with out of date garage codes. Admittedly many VHMs at HT retain previous KC & WJ codes. A highlight on Thursday was a VH on route 266 (possibly VH45104) where the J from the JE code had disappeared, with just the letter E showing! Gotta cut budgets somewhere, start with the small stuff and it adds up. Some also say PK or RP |
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Post by i3lu on Jun 1, 2024 11:52:28 GMT
I don't think it will be able to use hybrids given its allocated electrics Didn’t stop the 28. The 28 never been awarded with electrics. The contract had the ex 13 VHs. |
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2024 14:12:18 GMT
In March 2024, TfL closed the stand on Rockware Avenue in Greenford this is the stand used for the 105 and E6 at there Greenford Station terminus. The E6 was supposedly temporarily withdrawn between Greenford Broadway and Greenford Station. The 105 is supposed to be standing at Westway Cross but I still see 105s standing at the Stand on Rockware Avenue are 105s allowed to stand there? If so then why not reopen it and bring back the E6 to Greenford Station?
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Jun 2, 2024 16:14:38 GMT
I'm gonna say this in a way that I hope doesn't criticise RATP too much but it's really getting annoying now so... I absolutely despise the service the 65 is recieving.Even with the slight PVR increase,the route is still very unreliable,and it's really annoying that a busy route like that barely comes on time.I saw 3 bunched 65s when I was out today.If I'm being totally honest, Its really hard to tell which route RATP run more unreliably,the 65 or the 235.The amount of Busch Corner or Sunbury Cross turns are pathetic.Metroline and Abellio had much better service than RATP.I won't be surprised if the 235 is handed back.But I will say that RATP do offee good services on most of their routes and I do enjoy riding on their buses but the service on those 2 routes is abysmal and I hope RATP can rectify the service on those routes The 235 hasn’t been handed back. It seems to be the one recently tendered route that is soldering on to its intended 5 year term I’m sure VMH2537 can corroborate with this, the 125 is also up there with some of their worst performing routes Here is a list of the top 10 most unreliable RATP routes (My personal opinion) 1.65 (Was really hoping Metroline would win the route) 2.125 (Metroline or Arriva will hopefully take it back) 3.235 (TUK/Metroline again?) 4.49 (TUK can snatch the route back) 5.220 (Shame it was retained in 2022) 6.110 (Perhaps it's frequency decrease will help reliability?) 7.18 (Though it is the busiest bus in London,so it's reliability is understandable) 8.148 (GAL or TUK could win this route) 9.266 (Metroline could try again?) 10.226 (The 28 was in this slot prior to it's move to Metroline) |
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 2, 2024 16:22:47 GMT
The 235 hasn’t been handed back. It seems to be the one recently tendered route that is soldering on to its intended 5 year term I’m sure VMH2537 can corroborate with this, the 125 is also up there with some of their worst performing routes Here is a list of the top 10 most unreliable RATP routes (My personal opinion) 1.65 2.125 3.235 4.49 5.220 6.110 (Perhaps it's frequency decrease will help reliability?) 7.18 (Though it is the busiest bus in London,so it's reliability is understandable) 8.148 9.266 10.226 (The 28 was in this slot prior to it's move to Metroline) The top three definitely. The 220 is a route which is bordering inoperable. It’s genuinely a route that no one could operate any better. Ditto 110 I can’t imagine Metroline being able to run them any better The 18 is a fortunate case that it’s so frequent, that there are rarely any gaps big enough that you’re waiting ages and ages. It got a 2 year extension so it can’t run that appallingly I do think RATP have a disproportionately high amount of those routes that are just bordering impossible to run decently. Probably due to their operations centring around west London |
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 2, 2024 16:29:19 GMT
Here is a list of the top 10 most unreliable RATP routes (My personal opinion) 1.65 2.125 3.235 4.49 5.220 6.110 (Perhaps it's frequency decrease will help reliability?) 7.18 (Though it is the busiest bus in London,so it's reliability is understandable) 8.148 9.266 10.226 (The 28 was in this slot prior to it's move to Metroline) The top three definitely. The 220 is a route which is bordering inoperable. It’s genuinely a route that no one could operate any better. Ditto 110 I can’t imagine Metroline being able to run them any better The 18 is a fortunate case that it’s so frequent, that there are rarely any gaps big enough that you’re waiting ages and ages. It got a 2 year extension so it can’t run that appallingly I do think RATP have a disproportionately high amount of those routes that are just bordering impossible to run decently. Probably due to their operations centring around west London I would agree about the 220, I was on my way to Westfield on Saturday. Headed towards Putney to catch the 220 but immediately saw the amount of people waiting on Putney Bridge and took the 22 instead to Kings Road to connect to a 49. |
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Post by abellion on Jun 2, 2024 18:42:01 GMT
The top three definitely. The 220 is a route which is bordering inoperable. It’s genuinely a route that no one could operate any better. Ditto 110 I can’t imagine Metroline being able to run them any better The 18 is a fortunate case that it’s so frequent, that there are rarely any gaps big enough that you’re waiting ages and ages. It got a 2 year extension so it can’t run that appallingly I do think RATP have a disproportionately high amount of those routes that are just bordering impossible to run decently. Probably due to their operations centring around west London I would agree about the 220, I was on my way to Westfield on Saturday. Headed towards Putney to catch the 220 but immediately saw the amount of people waiting on Putney Bridge and took the 22 instead to Kings Road to connect to a 49. I was going home from Hammersmith around 3pm two months ago, walked over to the Wandsworth stop as a 220 pulled in, and an absolutely gargantuan crowd was waiting. No other route was coming even close to such a crowd and the bus left completely rammed. Basically 99% of the northbound demand from Putney is on the 220, one 220 will literally have more people on board than the 14/22/74/414/430 lot combined... |
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 2, 2024 18:50:43 GMT
I would agree about the 220, I was on my way to Westfield on Saturday. Headed towards Putney to catch the 220 but immediately saw the amount of people waiting on Putney Bridge and took the 22 instead to Kings Road to connect to a 49. I was going home from Hammersmith around 3pm two months ago, walked over to the Wandsworth stop as a 220 pulled in, and an absolutely gargantuan crowd was waiting. No other route was coming even close to such a crowd and the bus left completely rammed. Basically 99% of the northbound demand from Putney is on the 220, one 220 will literally have more people on board than the 14/22/74/414/430 lot combined... The 14 has huge demand of its own (if a bit further up the route), but I agree about the other four having more modest loads. I don’t find the 220 demand surprising though, the 220 forges a path which is very convoluted on the Tube. From Putney Bridge, to Westfield/Wood Lane it requires one or even two changes at Earl’s Court and Hammersmith, or NHG. For Hammersmith it you have to go to the Central London border to Earl’s Court then either go down to the Piccadilly Line or another slow District Line train to Hammersmith. It’s a journey easier by bus (not to mention cheaper), so it’s little wonder the demand for the 220 is off the scale |
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Post by tts on Jun 2, 2024 21:04:09 GMT
The 235 hasn’t been handed back. It seems to be the one recently tendered route that is soldering on to its intended 5 year term I’m sure VMH2537 can corroborate with this, the 125 is also up there with some of their worst performing routes Here is a list of the top 10 most unreliable RATP routes (My personal opinion) 1.65 (Was really hoping Metroline would win the route) 2.125 (Metroline or Arriva will hopefully take it back) 3.235 (TUK/Metroline again?) 4.49 (TUK can snatch the route back) 5.220 (Shame it was retained in 2022) 6.110 (Perhaps it's frequency decrease will help reliability?) 7.18 (Though it is the busiest bus in London,so it's reliability is understandable) 8.148 (GAL or TUK could win this route) 9.266 (Metroline could try again?) 10.226 (The 28 was in this slot prior to it's move to Metroline) I could easily throw the H9 / H10 into that mix as most the time, the operating seems to be go whenever you wish as I've had my fair share of buses running anywhere between -7 to +36 minutes late on these routes! Sometimes, there are just buses which don't even operate which is especially felt during the peaks. |
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